Results 1 to 50 of 51
-
05-10-2008, 02:22 PM #1
Robert 'Bob' Hudson Introduction
Who is Bob Hudson ?
(Please forgive this short introduction - I will be back often during the upcoming campaign. But wrobert mentioned to me that I should make an introduction quickly)
Pat and I retired here 7 years ago from Dallas, Texas. This was the last stop on a career of over 30 years with the largest male youth serving organization in America. In my last 5 years with that organization I seved as the Director of Fiscal Management with a large staff that was responsible for the accounting functions in 343 locations in the US and 7 foreign countries.
We chose Walton County and specifically Santa Rosa Beach as our last residence. Like many of you we vacationed here for over 30 years renting units along the 30-A corridor and our family grew to love this area.
I spent my first 2 years of retirement fishing almost daily. I caught enough fish to last a lifetime and found a new interest in the Walton County Taxpayers Association. I have served on that Board for almost five years. I have attended over 80 percent of the Board of County Commissioner's meeting's ,Walton County School Board meetings, South Walton Fire District and even the South Walton Mosquito Control Board meetings. I have served the WCTA as Treasurer and as it's webmaster. My primary focus with them has been in the financial analysis area. I consider that organization to be the premier "taxpayers advocate" organization in Florida. It has existed for over 28 years and has served Walton County taxpayer interests well. That is where I initally met wrobert as he was a member of that organization when I was asked to serve.
I have been interested in politics all of my life. I truly enjoy the American process of government. I once served as a School Board member for 5 years. I have worked with Cindy on many issues.
Although I was asked by many to run for the District 5 Commissioner position, I made a decision to support Cindy in her re-election. I met with her personally over a year ago and told her that I would not run against her. I was in a meeting with her less that 2 weeks ago and restated my intention to support her.
Tuesday of this past week everything changed. I received a call informing me that Cindy had made a decision not to seek a second term. Like many of you, I was shocked by her decision. I was more shocked by who was left in the pre-qualified pool.
I decided that I would pre-qualify.
I am currently securing the necessary 343 candidate petition's required. This is a tremendous task in a 9 day period.
I will continue to check this site daily, but I must spend the time to actually have my name added to the ballot. After that is done I will answer any and all questions that are posted on this site.
My cell number is 543-2378. Have a question ? Call me.
I am attaching a .pdf candidate petition - if you are interested in helping please call me and I will pick it up or mail it to my address:
Petition.pdf
Thank you !
Bob Hudson
121 Fairway Drive
Santa Rosa Beach, Fl
hudsonSRB@gmail.comLast edited by Bob Hudson; 05-11-2008 at 10:50 AM.
-
05-10-2008, 02:38 PM #2
Bob! Good luck!
-
The Following User Says Thank You to Gypsea For This Useful Post:
-
05-10-2008, 04:16 PM #3
Bob, my printer is down for the count, but if you have some petitions handy I could drop by to pick up a couple and see if I can get some sigs for you :)
CK
-
The Following User Says Thank You to ckhagen For This Useful Post:
-
2 on the way.
-
The Following User Says Thank You to kurt For This Useful Post:
-
05-10-2008, 04:59 PM #5
Call me on my cell number and I will gladly deliver.
Thanks
Bob
-
Is this the same Bob Hudson that was so vocal about the SeaBreeze Jazz Festival? If so, then no thank you!
-
05-12-2008, 03:26 PM #7
Yes , I am the individual that spoke before the County Commission after the organizer of the SeaBreeze Jazz festival had already signed a contract to move the venue to Bay County. I was asked by the County Administrator to discuss the issue of enforcement of the parking regulations and sound ordinance brought up within our neighborhood association. I spoke on their behalf when we were informed by the Code Enforcement Department that the venue operator had not applied for the necessary permit to exclude the event from enforcement of the sound level provision of the sound ordinance and had no plan for parking that had been approved and that they were leary of enforcing the provisions without the Commissions input. All 5 voted to ask the Planning Department to work with the operator of the event to resolve those issues.
I clearly explained the neighborhood's concern over the advertisement that appeared in the paper stating that people should park on the bike path on 393. (The prior year people were forced to literally park on grave sites in Gulf Place Cemetary)
As the event has grown each year the lack of parking sufficient to accomodate the increasing crowd and the increasing sound levels has become an issue with neighboring citizens. ( Sound levels 1/2 mile away were recorded at 94 decibels last year)
I have enjoyed the festival in person for many years. The real issue here is the lack of an adequate venue for events such as this. Tourists and local people enjoy and expect events such as the Jazz Festival. Regretfully we have not had a vision to provide an adequate site for these events.
The truth is simple - the Seabreeze Jazz festival outgrew the venue and the sponsor was forced to seek a location that would allow for the event to continue to grow. Poor planning on someone's part in my opinion to not locate and build a venue in Walton County.Last edited by Bob Hudson; 05-12-2008 at 06:28 PM.
-
I went to the Jazz Fest last year and didn't have a problem w/ it being too loud. It was actually a problem that we couldn't hear the music over a neighboring vendor's generator.
IMO moving the festival (and similar events) out of the neighborhood because of parking (no parking signs and enforcement could solve that since there were already shuttles to lots at Grand Boulevard etc.) & noise is a bit of an overreaction. High quality musicians performing once a year on a weekend and on a date know well in advance is not noise pollution.
One of my pet peeves is that a few people ruin it for others - which is why I can no longer enjoy music or extended hours at the Red Bar, Bud & Alley's, or Cerulean's and am waiting for the season's first arrest of a toddler on a "private" beach.
I can definitely see why there might be complaints about the parking as the number of people/visitors with no manners grows each year, but I also noted that people didn't park in the few areas where there were temporary "no parking" signs.
-
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to scooterbug44 For This Useful Post:
-
-
I'm certainly not blaming you for the move of the Jazz Festival and I don't disagree with the size issue of the venue. But many people are aware of how you conducted yourself during the whole event and I for one am certainly unimpressed. As far as permitting goes, no event has ever had to have one until this years Jazz Fest and there hasn't been one issued since. Yet, there are still festivals in this area nearly every weekend that fall under the same guidlines. Why haven't you made sure that all of those events have been brought up to code? Does the upcoming Seaside Jazz Festival have all of the proper permits? Have you checked? I bet not, because it is not in your back yard and you aren't concerned. I personally don't know whether the SSJF has everything in order but again, I haven't appointed myself as a watchdog of that sort of thing nor do I have political aspirations.
All I'm saying is this, if you are going to work so hard to make sure that one group tows the line for whatever reason, then you should at least be fair about it. If you want to be a politico then let us know that you will do a good job by being evenhanded and not just serving your own needs.
-
05-13-2008, 11:22 AM #11
- Join Date
- Mar 2008
- Location
- Eastern Lake Est., SoWal, FL
- Posts
- 2,323
- Images
- 87
At this point, at least Bob seems to not be making money off the backs of the citizens by running, nor does he seem to be on the take.
-
Also he shows up at meetings even though he isn't elected yet - probably has a better attendance rate than some elected officials!

He also gets points for being able to make a cohesive argument/post and using punctuation so it is readable.
All biggies IMO!
-
05-15-2008, 11:30 PM #13
This is a cop out comment. I live in BMB myself, just inside the BMB line in fact. You did not want the Jazz Festival here and you helped run the Jazz Festival off. End of story.
Why don't you just call a spade a spade? By the way, I am in the district you want to be Commissioner over and you will not have my family's, business associates, friends or my support as a result. That is a lot of votes so good luck with your campaign.
PS The Carters who own the Seabreeze Radio station are in your district too, I believe. Karma is a tough thing Bob.
-
05-15-2008, 11:34 PM #14
-
05-16-2008, 02:29 AM #15
-
-
-
Brings up a good point and one I've been moaning about for a long time. Why the heck doesn't the County allow public school property to be used for such events? There is ample space for seating, ample parking, restrooms, concessions, etc. So please, tell me why we don't share. The tax payers pay for that property and it sits unused otherwise for these weekend events. IMO, the property should be open to the public for recreational use. I've seen it happen in other places, and it works very well, and saves the County money by not having to double up on recreational parks. With south Walton being in such desperate need for such facilities, it seems so blatantly obvious to me.
-
-
There is a prohibition of alcohol on school property. That rule was made why? To keep underage kids from drinking? Or, to keep parents from drinking at games, so they don't get rowdy and disgrace their kids? I'm not sure, but seeing as how such events are not school-affiliated, I think they could lift the prohibition temporarily during the events, without negatively influencing our youth regarding drinking alcohol.
Seeing as how that property is surrounded mostly by other County property, I doubt noise would be a big factor at that location, and it is centrally located. Something as simple as temporarily suspending an irrelevant rule, should not stand in the way.
-
-
I did, too, and thought it was the perfect place to hold many smaller concerts and productions. I never knew that the auditorium was so nice.
Bob, let's bring this back on track to your run for BCC. What are your thoughts on this idea of sharing Tax Payer sites such as the school, with special events open to the public?
-
05-16-2008, 09:20 AM #23
Mr. Hudson:
First, good luck on your campaign. I noticed you haven't had a chance to lay out much about why you are running I wanted to see what you thought about some issues discussed on this board and important to your district.
Have you ever held government office before?
You mentioned being involved with financial things in your professional life and with the taxpayers association. So, I would guess many issues that you have been involved in are black and white answers since numbers don't lie. What experience do you have in trying to bring very diverse groups to a consensus and how are you in the art of compromise?
What is your position on the Driftwood Estates drainage issue? Should the County stop the ongoing development until drainage is fixed?
Should Code Enforcement be proactive or reactive?
You mentioned that the County should buy land for public venues, how do you feel about using property taxes to buy those properties? Could we open up some of the school property when it is not in use since our tax dollars already paid for those?
What do you think about the county's sign plan for the bike path on 30A?
Is the beach public or are some areas private and the public shouldn't use them?
Should seawalls be allowed on the beach?
How can the County get more parking at beach accesses?
Are you for or against having concerts at some of the developments like Gulf Place. It looks like the jazz festival is gone, but the Criollas guy has said that their new company is wanting to have more concerts there?
What is your feeling on the current Sheriff versus County situation? Do you have any thoughts on improving communication if the current Sheriff wins?
I and others look forward to your responses.
-
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Roadrunner For This Useful Post:
-
05-16-2008, 12:11 PM #24
I have now officially qualified by petition. Big task in a short time span. I promised to come back here to answer questions as time permitted. I will take the questions in order and give you my position or thoughts.
Remember that we all have "warts" and that we will never all agree on every subject. I have always tried to find that person whose "key points" I agreed with.
SJ:
I served on a school board for 5 years almost 15 years ago. During that time span the School Board was approached by the Parks and Recreation department seeking access to the athletic facilities at our schools. We were able to enter into an inter-local agreement with them to provide access to things like ballfields, gym's, batting cages and practice fields. At that time I was charged with representing the interests of the schools and children. The initial concerns of some were the legal liabilities (quickly over come), priority of use (school activities came first) and a sharing of the operatings costs for such things as heat, light etc. They also wanted to add lighting to the two high school track facilities to allow for people to have a place to walk and jog at night. ( No Multi-use trails there at that time.)
Let me get straight to the point. Those issues were resolved and I voted to enter into the inter-local agreement. I was the Chairman when this was done.
I would be described as a fiscally conservative individual and believe that we should seek every opportunity to not duplicate services and facilities and to expand availibility of services and facilities in creative ways.
I have spoken before the BCC on this very issues asking that we seek to expand those agreements whenever possible. We currently have some agreements with the WCSD that are seldom utilized.
Bob
-
The Following User Says Thank You to Bob Hudson For This Useful Post:
-
-
The Following User Says Thank You to Smiling JOe For This Useful Post:
-
05-16-2008, 04:03 PM #26
OK Mr. Roadrunner - I have a few minutes to give you my responses to a few of your questions.
Have I ever held government office ?
Yes I served as a School Board member for 5 years about 15 years ago. I was transferrerd by my employeer if your next question would be why for 5 years. School Board positions were non-paying positions other than reimbursement for mileage to meetings. I never filed the paperwork for reimbursement other than for travel to Certified School Board Member training.
Should Code Enforcement be proactive or reactive?
Both - They have for a long time only responded to citizen complaints so they would drive by signs that they knew to be out of compliance and wait until they had a complaint before reacting. The Commission , under proding from Cindy and Sara, is working on making them more proactive not just in signs but in other areas as well. Mark Martin with the Planning Department is now taking a major role in the direction of the Code Enforcement Dept. restructure. (Code Depart falls under Pat and the Planning Department).
What do you think about the county's sign plan for the bike path on 30A?
I have just seen it and have only arrived at one conclusion at this point in time. It appears to be a lot of signs (IMO), but I really need to spend some more time studying the actual plan in detail vs recommendations from FDOT. Safety should be possible without spoiling the Scenic Corridor. At least they do not appear to be 18 ft tall. Allow me to address this after I study the plan further.
How can the County get more parking at beach accesses?
We need to be more creative in approaching the issue. We need to encourage walkable access. We have around 16 miles of "Public Beaches" - why are we not working toward providing more access to those area. Some are preservation area and I am certainly for protecting those, but what about shuttle's, dedicated cart paths.
I have picked a few that I could quickly answer. Some of these questions are complex and I will take them one at a time between the tasks necessary to ramp up a campaign.
Hope this helps.
Back later
-
The Following User Says Thank You to Bob Hudson For This Useful Post:
-
05-16-2008, 04:31 PM #27
Thanks for your responses, I realize your time is constrained. However, I think sowal.com will be a driving force in supporting whoever wins the election so I hope you have time. I hope you know that we have already had an impact on at least one recent issue.
I have also reposted the others below so they don't get lost in the shuffle and to hopefully make it easier on you. Based on your responses, I have added a couple and hope you don't mind.
New ones:
What do you mean by 16 miles of "public beaches?" Is that how much shoreline is in Walton County or are you saying that some of it should not be used by the public? I guess this leads into one of my old questions.
Also, you mentioned dedicated cart paths. It seems like roads are already crowded with the bike path and the road. Is there enough room to add another path? Wouldn't it need more signs too?
Old ones:
You mentioned being involved with financial things in your professional life and with the taxpayers association. So, I would guess many issues that you have been involved in are black and white answers since numbers don't lie. What experience do you have in trying to bring very diverse groups to a consensus and how are you in the art of compromise?
What is your position on the Driftwood Estates drainage issue? Should the County stop the ongoing development until drainage is fixed?
You mentioned that the County should buy land for public venues, how do you feel about using property taxes to buy those properties? Could we open up some of the school property when it is not in use since our tax dollars already paid for those?
What do you think about the county's sign plan for the bike path on 30A?
Is the beach public or are some areas private and the public shouldn't use them?
Should seawalls be allowed on the beach?
Are you for or against having concerts at some of the developments like Gulf Place. It looks like the jazz festival is gone, but the Criollas guy has said that their new company is wanting to have more concerts there?
What is your feeling on the current Sheriff versus County situation? Do you have any thoughts on improving communication if the current Sheriff wins?
Thanks again and Beep! Beep!
-
The Following User Says Thank You to Roadrunner For This Useful Post:
-
05-16-2008, 05:49 PM #28
Lets see if we can agree on the best method to address the question, answer, and follow up question issue. I would prefer to answer all of your original questions first.
It may be two or three at a time and then when all of your original questions have been responded I cal put them together into one summary post.
That is only a suggestion as I sincerely hope that I can find a way to effectively answer many questions her in a open forum in a quick manner.
i promised to enjoy dinner out with Pat tonight. I will try to finish up your original questions later tonight or tomorrow morning.
BobLast edited by Bob Hudson; 05-16-2008 at 05:51 PM.
-
05-16-2008, 09:07 PM #29
I appreciate knowing that you are so responsive. Anyway that you would like to do it would be great. After my first post, I have received even more comments from people who want to know your stand on these issues. Please enjoy your dinner with your wife and take your time as there is no rush.
However, please know that with each response I may have another question just like my brothers the Watcher, WileCoyote, etc. have with others running for office, so please be patient with me. I promise to be patient with you as I think it is a great service you are offering by letting us voters know where you stand, especially since some of us will likely volunteer to try and get you elected.
-
-
05-17-2008, 04:29 PM #30
Note: Previously I referred to my association and involvement with the Walton County Taxpayers Association. Within their by-laws are limiting clauses that bar any elected official from serving on that body. I firmly believe that when I chose to enter this primary that I should recuse myself from activity during this campaign period. At a special meeting of the officers of that body held on Thursday I stated that fact and will no longer engage in their operations until the conclusion of my campaign. I am providing this information as I will occassionally use their name through this discussion. You should realize that I do this only as a point of reference. The president or her designee are the only people that speak officially for that organization
Have you ever held government office before?
Yes I served as a School Board member for 5 years about 15 years ago. I was transferred by my employer, if your next question would be why for 5 years. School Board positions were non-paying positions other than reimbursement for mileage to meetings. I never filed the paperwork for reimbursement other than for travel to Certified School Board Member training.
You mentioned being involved with financial things in your professional life and with the taxpayers association. So, I would guess many issues that you have been involved in are black and white answers since numbers don't lie. What experience do you have in trying to bring very diverse groups to a consensus and how are you in the art of compromise?
In reading and understanding financial reports and audits we all understand basic math 2 plus 2 is four and 2 times 2 is 4. To understand the true meaning of those numbers we must understand the story behind the numbers. Two apples plus 2 oranges equals four pieces of fruit, but not 4 apples or four oranges. A reader of financial statements must carefully read the accompanying notes and management letter to understand what the numbers mean. If you believe that accounting numbers are simply black and white -one must only remember the Enron collapse and the financial statements leading up to that collapse.
On to the question – During my 5 years as a School Board member we were faced with several opportunities of great interest and concern to the community.
1.School boundaries were realigned to maintain racial balance.
2.A new elementary school was built
3.Two new head football coaches were hired*
Those issues were the 3 issues that were the most challenging. I wish that I could say that consensus was achieve through the process of public input and public hearings. Regretfully most individuals have a perspective and point of view that is very personal in nature. They tend to look at the issue from their perspective and their perspective alone. A school Board member or County Commissioner must vote based on the best solution that represents his/her constituency when viewed from the perspective of entire community. Many have a hard time with that in the real world. Regretfully it seems that we are a county that is divided on our viewpoint about 50/50 on any issue. You make every attempt to find those common threads of interest and use them to arrive at the best position.
I mention the two head football coaches positions only as an anecdotal story. In my 5 years I never had a single parent call me to discuss the hiring of a new math teacher, chemistry teacher or guidance counselor, but my phone literally caught on fire when those two positions were advertised.
What is your position on the Driftwood Estates drainage issue? Should the County stop the ongoing development until drainage is fixed?
Three years ago I met Alan Osborne when the Driftwood Estates issues were brought to the commission. They have three main issues – drainage, access and road maintenance issues.
I have heard many hours of give and take between the two parties. It has been a long journey and is not complete at this time. Depositions were taken several weeks ago I believe.
Are their drainage issues – yes – I have been there to see those reported concerns during heavy rain periods. Should they be addressed – yes. Who should pay for the resolution? It appears that the county has worked with engineering firms and contractors and that some resolution is underway concerning drainage. Who pays for everything will be settled in Court (IMO).
Access through Sandestin
This issue will not be resolved without litigation. If the road was actually closed without a proper abandonment process, they in my opinion the access will probably be made available. I am sure that no matter which way the commission votes on the issue they are doing so under legal advice from their attorney. Permits were withheld for a period of time and the Driftwood Estates HOA has asked the commissioners to stop issuing once again. They seemed to be following the advice of legal council once again when they did not grant the request.
My observations are all based on what I have heard while attending BCC meetings and what I have read in the local papers.
Should Code Enforcement be proactive or reactive?
Both - They have for a long time only responded to citizen complaints so they would drive by signs that they knew to be out of compliance and wait until they had a complaint before reacting. The Commission , under prodding from Cindy and Sara, is working on making them more proactive not just in signs but in other areas as well. Mark Martin with the Planning Department is now taking a major role in the direction of the Code Enforcement Dept. restructure. (Code Depart falls under Pat and the Planning Department).
You mentioned that the County should buy land for public venues, how do you feel about using property taxes to buy those properties? Could we open up some of the school property when it is not in use since our tax dollars already paid for those?
1. Yes, when the purchase is made at fair market prices and the property has benefit to the citizens of Walton County
2. Asked and answered in a post to Smiling Joe
What do you think about the county's sign plan for the bike path on 30A?
I have just seen it and have only arrived at one conclusion at this point in time. It appears to be a lot of signs (IMO), but I really need to spend some more time studying the actual plan in detail vs recommendations from FDOT. Safety should be possible without spoiling the Scenic Corridor. At least they do not appear to be 18 ft tall. Allow me to address this after I study the plan further.
Is the beach public or are some areas private and the public shouldn't use them?
The shoreline of Walton County is approximately 26 miles in length. It is my understanding that 16 of those miles are “public access” beaches. I define “public access” beaches as those areas where the state or local government has title. My understanding on the balance of 10 miles are areas where the title states that the property extends to the mean high tide line. Those 10 miles are what the whole public/private debate is concentrated. Many people feel that there is a right of use due to customary usage. I have read court rulings that state that the shoreline is so unique that it should be viewed in a different light regardless of the deed of trust by the title. I have also read ruling that state that the public customary usage claims cannot be a blanket interpretation, that they must be handled on a case by case basis.
I believe that in order to a governing body to make an effective “take” of the land their should be compensation for those “takes”. For the government to take a property they must meet certain legal requirements. Those requirements will be very costly to the governing body either through both a loss of ad valorem tax revenue and the “fair market compensation” required to acquire title to those parcels.
My experience is that “beach front” property owners have no problem with the public transversing their property on a leisurely wall on the beach, a surf fisherman like myself, or a person that sits down to enjoy a sunset. What they seem to object to are those who in effect setup camp on their property high above the wet sand area and leave trash, lawn chairs, etc on the property.
This issue is not just an issue in Walton County and the state of Florida – it is a debate that rages anywhere their is a coast line in the US. This will ultimately be settled by the US Supreme Court.
I enjoy surf fishing and have walked and fished the coast line of Walton County without incident. I have heard others tell a different story.
Without a court ruling otherwise I believe this – “If you take it, you must pay for it”.
Should seawalls be allowed on the beach?
I believe in personal property rights. There is currently an allowable process to build a seawall to protect a home under certain situations. Seawalls have have impact on surrounding property and on the environment and wildlife. The Florida DEP has a procedure that must be followed in order to obtain a permit. A person installing a seawall should maintain the necessary overlay of white sand and required vegetation. Those seawalls should be on a person's privately owned land.
Anyone installing a seawall should accept the legal liability of such an installation. I say these things because those processes are currently allowed under Florida statute. Pat and I chose to live ˝ mile inland for a reason. The forces of nature are tremendous and at any moment can “take” those structures. Would I personally install a seawall if I owned beach front property. No I would not, but they are currently allowed under certain situations.
How can the County get more parking at beach accesses?
We need to be more creative in approaching the issue. We need to encourage walkable access. We have around 16 miles of "Public Beaches" - why are we not working toward providing more access to those area. Some are preservation area and I am certainly for protecting those, but what about shuttle's, dedicated cart paths.
Are you for or against having concerts at some of the developments like Gulf Place. It looks like the jazz festival is gone, but the Criollas guy has said that their new company is wanting to have more concerts there?
The neighborhood that I live in predates Gulf Place. I believe that open air concerts have a place along the 30-A corridor. 30-A is a series of “beach communities” that have every right to conduct such activities within the current provisions of County ordinance. Those provisions were set by the Board of County commissioners through the public hearing process. Do they need to be ammended to meet the changing density along that corridor? Yes they should. The economic benefit should not override safety issues. The current ordinance has a provision for exception to the current sound level specified and those provisions worked very well this year during the Seabreeze Festival. I must also remind everyone that Gulf Place sponsors concerts on an ongoing basis due the high tourist season. I believe that we need an area that can safely handle very large crowds.
What is your feeling on the current Sheriff versus County situation? Do you have any thoughts on improving communication if the current Sheriff wins?
There are two main issue of current debate:
Accounting
First I should say that I have spoken before the BCC on multiple occasions on this subject. I am publicly on record with questions concerning these internal controls that were clearly detailed within those documents. I have personally been involved during the budget scrub and public hearings during the last four Walton County budget cycles. I believe that the only way to restore public confidence in the financial aspect of at the Sheriff's office is through an independent outside audit by the Auditor Generals Office. I have discussed this with that office on two occasions. They would only provide that service if asked by the legislature. Local elected officials could ask our local state representative's to seek that service. The balance of funds that the auditor stated in the notes section of the audit (about $30,000) has still not been returned to the BCC as required.
E-911 Equipment
The BCC has responsibility through state law to fund E-911 operations from the E-911 tax added to everyones phone bill. There are set procedures for what are called “primary PSAP's” and “secondary PSAP's. That provides a redundancy of operations during outages due to equipment and weather related situations. Walton County BCC operates the primary PSAP and has two secondary PSAP's – one is at the South Walton Fire District operations center on HWY 393N and the second is located within the Walton County Sheriff's Office.
The Sheriff's budget for the past two years have not requested funding for any upgrade of their equipment. His requests are divided into a request for capital and for operating. He has a certain amount of latitude to shift revenues around during the year. He purchased the new equipment without appearing before the BCC declaring the he had an emergency situation that necessitated an additional funding. He could have purchased and paid for that equipment within the current fiscal year by using his power to transfer funds. He received an invoice from Motorola that fell within the budget year, but he did not pay the invoice. All constitutional officer must return “unused” appropriations within a certain time frame. The Sheriff did not return those funds and was instructed to forward those funds. He returned the majority of the funds (around $697,000). That has not been done.
The Sheriff filed a request to the Governor to force the BCC to pay for the equipment. The Governors office requested additional information. The process has not been completed.
It is my belief that the Sheriff could solve the situation by making an appearance before the BCC providing information concerning the emergency situation and that the BCC would would ammend their budget and pay for the equipment.
The situation will be resolved when all of the legal requirements are met. What sitting Commissioner would go on record opposing an expenditure that protects the safety and welfare of the citizens of Walton County. Not me !Last edited by Bob Hudson; 05-17-2008 at 04:50 PM.
-
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Bob Hudson For This Useful Post:
-
05-17-2008, 04:44 PM #31
I hope this way of answering questions works for everyone inclined to follow this thread. My thoughts are mine. They are honest answers to some easy and some complex questions. That is who I am , like me, love me or hate me. I will always try to answer in this manner.
I owe the Roadrunner the answers to two follow up questions and will try to get that done quickly.
Bob HudsonLast edited by Bob Hudson; 05-17-2008 at 05:26 PM.
-
05-18-2008, 07:24 PM #32
Mr. Hudson;
Thanks so much for your honest responses to these important questions. Regarding use of the beaches, how would you respond to those of us who purchased rental property north of 30-A/98 based on the premise that the beaches were customarily used by everyone, based on years of local history. Isn't it a "taking" of our property rights to make it more difficult for our renters to get to/use the beaches, therefore lowering the value of our property? And what do you say to those locals who have used the beaches unfettered all of their lives? Isn't restricting use of the beaches infringing on their quality of life? I would think it would be in the majority of the voters best interest to have a fairly liberal beach usage policy at the county level. What say you?
-
05-19-2008, 12:32 PM #33
-
The Following User Says Thank You to Roadrunner For This Useful Post:
-
05-20-2008, 09:15 PM #34
RR Question - What do you mean by 16 miles of "public beaches?" Is that how much shoreline is in Walton County or are you saying that some of it should not be used by the public? I guess this leads into one of my old questions.
I think I answered this followup at the time that I reposted all of your questions and my responses. If not just let me know and I will make another effort. Please see post #30 and let me know.
RR-Question - Also, you mentioned dedicated cart paths. It seems like roads are already crowded with the bike path and the road. Is there enough room to add another path? Wouldn't it need more signs too?
The latest 30-A study dealt and recommended dedicated cart paths, dedicated cart parking and encouraging restaurants and other businesses to include those in their plans where possible. There are sections of 30-A where that would not be possible. Seaside comes to my mind. I believe that 30-A is a series of "Beach Communities" and that we should explore ways to provide for other forms of transit to highly congested areas. A dedicated cart path like the multi-purpose path would be difficult to connect all of those communities together. I was drawing on my understanding of the 30-A study and trying to think outside the box.
RR - Let me know what other questions you have and anyothers as I feel we are now in sync.Last edited by Bob Hudson; 05-21-2008 at 07:11 AM.
-
05-20-2008, 09:36 PM #35
I definitely understand your perspective. I am not an attorney, particularly not a land use attorney. My perspective is a layman’s, based on a value system that believes that land ownership and the rights historically associated with it are a true foundation of our society. There were events that occurred within New Jersey and Connecticut where municipalities acquired people’s homes under the eminent domain provisions of the law. They took those parcels not to provide a hospital, school, or road. They took those parcels and then sold them to developers because the tax revenue from the condominiums would be greater than those from the current owners. That bothered me and many others across the nation. Y I did not author the deeds of those parcels that state ownership to the MHW line. It is regrettable that the vision or foresight was not there to provide accommodation for all, but as I said my viewpoint "those individuals will have to be compensated for the take". I believe this issue will be decided in the highest court of the land.
The issue of customary usage of the land is currently under review and I believe that the current law is interpreted that a customary usage would have to be done on a case by case basis. We vacationed here for 42 years. Could I go unfettered almost anywhere on the beaches - yes I could. There were very few homes on the beach and almost no people that were permanent residents to challenge my usage. Things are very different today in that regard. We should explorer all avenues to expand what we have that are undeniably "Public" - Should that be a policy that provides for easier access to all - yes it should!
Honest answersLast edited by Bob Hudson; 05-21-2008 at 07:12 AM.
-
05-21-2008, 12:07 PM #36
Mr. Hudson,
Can you please find a link documenting the above cases you speak of, and that you have strong feelings for? It's been my understanding that no one is trying to take anyone's home. People are just trying to sit with their families unfettered on the beach without risk of arrest.
So, since it is your opinion that the only way the public should have use of a "private beach" above the MHWL is to "compensate those individual's for the take", then why were certain large scale developments allowed small stretches of beach ownership that obviously could not accomodate them due to the occupancy allowed? We are all aware that the high courts must decide this issue, but it seems rather hypocritical of you to say, and refer, to a past case, without referencing it to boot, that those municipalities took people's homes to build condos for higher tax revenue, when the County has allowed these large scale developments to be built in an area with a severly eroded beach comparable to others. I guess tax revenue had nothing to do with that?Last edited by Trevorr34; 05-21-2008 at 12:12 PM. Reason: sp
-
05-21-2008, 12:50 PM #37
Here is one of the news articles on this issue.
New London, Connecticut
Kelo v. New London
Lawsuit Challenging Eminent Domain Abuse in New London, Connecticut
Susette Kelo received notice of condemnation from the NLDC (New London Development Corporation) the day before Thanksgiving 2000.
Susette Kelo dreamed of owning a home that looked out over the water. She purchased and lovingly restored her little pink house where the Thames River meets the Long Island Sound in 1997, and has enjoyed the great view from its windows ever since. The Dery family, down the street from Susette, has lived in Fort Trumbull since 1895; Matt Dery and his family live next door to his mother and father, whose parents purchased their house when William McKinley was president. The richness and vibrancy of this neighborhood reflects the American ideal of community and the dream of homeownership.
Tragically, the City of New London is turning that dream into a nightmare.
In 1998, pharmaceutical giant Pfizer built a plant next to Fort Trumbull and the City determined that someone else could make better use of the land than the Fort Trumbull residents. The City handed over its power of eminent domain—the ability to take private property for public use—to the New London Development Corporation (NLDC), a private body, to take the entire neighborhood for private development. As the Fort Trumbull neighbors found out, when private entities wield government’s awesome power of eminent domain and can justify taking property with the nebulous claim of “economic development,” all homeowners are in trouble.
The U.S. Supreme Court may have ruled but the fight is not over yet.
here is another link: www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/02/21/scotus.eminent.domain
Google eminent domainLast edited by Bob Hudson; 05-21-2008 at 01:06 PM.
-
05-21-2008, 01:56 PM #38
Mr. Hudson:
I am quite capable of using google and multiple search engines. Thank you though for the tip. However, I fail to see how this particular case where people were forced from their home and land has anything to do with "customary usage". This is a rather exaggerated and extreme example you provided. Asking to sit on a beach unfettered in a State whose main source of revenue is, and always has been, tourism, is not "nebulous" in the least bit. I am glad you posted your honest answers though. It's become much clearer where you stand.Last edited by Trevorr34; 05-21-2008 at 02:04 PM.
-
The case was not cited for "customary usage" it was an example of abusive emminent domain for the public good that infringed on individual property owner's rights.
I found his answers quite clear and logical.
-
The Following User Says Thank You to scooterbug44 For This Useful Post:
-
05-21-2008, 02:49 PM #40
Boy, am I glad I did not bid on that communication contract! Motorola should be suing someone for payment by now or is the interest piling up?
-
05-21-2008, 04:52 PM #41
I found this 24 page document that discusses the "customary usage" debate very effectively. Many on this board will be very familiar with the rulings and the discussions concerning this issue. I post it for those that are looking for an analysis of where this issue is in the legal process. It is to large to post so I have provided a link:
http://www.law.fsu.edu/Journals/land...2/sullivan.pdf
-
05-21-2008, 04:55 PM #42
-
05-23-2008, 12:13 PM #43
Are you telling me that there is not a requirement to bid on a purchase this large? Most Governments/Departments require biding over a certain amount. Many as low as $5K unless the vendor is the only one that can provide the product/service. That cannot be the case here.
Is there oversight if that is the Sheriffs policy?
-
Governments around here rarely require bids when upgrading integrated equipment. If they go to a different vendor it would require replacing more than just the consoles. Now I do not know exactly what was bought, what the contract said, or the exact circumstances in this situation, so I will shut up now and go back to lurking.
-
05-25-2008, 11:31 AM #45
I now have a Robert 'Bob' Hudson campain website.
This is the link:http://www.bobhudson-2008.com
I will continue to monitor this thread as well. hopefully you will find it helpful in answering questions about me as an individual and as a candidate for District 5.
ThanksLast edited by Bob Hudson; 05-25-2008 at 11:33 AM.
-
The Following User Says Thank You to Bob Hudson For This Useful Post:
-
05-25-2008, 11:41 AM #46
- Join Date
- Oct 2007
- Location
- In the little town with FUN in the middle
- Posts
- 5,200
- Images
- 117
-
The Following User Says Thank You to Alicia Leonard For This Useful Post:
-
05-27-2008, 09:50 PM #47
Dear Voter,
I want to be YOUR Walton County District 5 Commissioner because, with your help and input, we can do better for all of Walton County.
I want to bring common sense back to government processes and offer you engaged, informed, accountable and responsive leadership.
I advocate long-term planning to accomplish short-term goals and plans for Walton County. I aim to make Walton County government proactive rather than reactive.
I will work to expand the economic development funding in Walton County, to bring environmentally friendly industry and business to our county. I will work to help diversify our economic base to help it weather economic fluctuations and nourish our tourism industry. We need to spend more than $500,000 on economic development.
With such financial pressures on families, we need to focus completely on making sure government works for everyone, not just the special interests.
I have devoted a great deal of time as a citizen activist attending County Commission meetings, workshops , budget planning sessions and providing input. I have a unique knowledge of the issues facing Walton County.
You deserve a full time commissioner who will listen to and represent ALL county property owners and citizens. I have the time, passion and the energy to do an efficient effective job representing the interests of all citizens.
Together - We Can Do Better !Last edited by Bob Hudson; 05-27-2008 at 09:51 PM.
-
05-30-2008, 07:08 PM #48
Mr. Hudson:
First I want to thank you for your replies to my questions and others questions. I think it says something that you are the only County Commissioner candidate that has been on sowal.com. That being said, I have a few follow-up questions based on some posts on the website.
One, what do you think about the recent issues with the Sherrif regarding the the 300k spent on communications. Was it "bid" legally? If he comes in to the County Commission meeting "hat in hand" would you approve his request or not.
Two, this issue with "things left on the beach" what do you think? You have previously stated that some beaches (at least 40%) are privately owned and the owner must allow usage and could remove people so should the government have the right to play beach removal czars and take the stuff on those privately-owned beaches or not?
Three, there has been some talk about beach renourishment along more beaches in Walton County. Since you are trying to get the seat of Meadows and District 5 where it has been done before, are you for or against it for the rest of sowal?
Finally a simple yes or no one for ya, I see in newspapers that the taxpayers association have concerns regarding buying that beach at eastern Lake. Would you approve it or not?
Thanks again for answering my questions. I know you are busy but I think you have already given the voters some things to mull over and these may help you along.
-
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Roadrunner For This Useful Post:
-
05-31-2008, 10:27 AM #49
Mr. Hudson:
First I want to thank you for your replies to my questions and others questions. I think it says something that you are the only County Commissioner candidate that has been on sowal.com. That being said, I have a few follow-up questions based on some posts on the website.
One, what do you think about the recent issues with the Sherrif regarding the the 300k spent on communications. Was it "bid" legally? If he comes in to the County Commission meeting "hat in hand" would you approve his request or not.
1. The budget process for the 2007 FY did not include any request from the SO for replacement of E911 equipment. A constitutional officer has a certain amount of latitude to shift certain budget items within each budget (operating and capital). Carr, Riggs, & Ingram have taken the position that the "replacement" of the E911 system was a system upgrade not a new capital item. I would have to have access to the contract (which I have never seen) and the PO (which I have seen) to determine whether I agree personall with that determination. If it was a "system upgrade" the SO could have shifted non-capital dollars to pay for the equipment as long as the payment was made within the 2007 budget year. Although he signed a PO and contract for the equipment within the time period allowed he did not complete the transaction within FY 2007. If the SO determined that they had an emergency he would have to hold a "public hearing" to allow public comment on the request. He added the item to the BCC agenda and then did not personally appear before the BCC to answer questions. The individual making the request referred all of the questions back to the Sheriff. Had he appeared and satisfied the Commission and public that he had an emergency situation then it would have been handled in the normal course of business.
2. There was no bid process on the equipment.
3. I would have several questions for the Sheriff concerning the exact nature of the Emergency, the proceess he followed and the availibility within his current budget to pay for the equipment. If those answers were given and verified - then I would vote to pay for the equipment - I would not subject the County to futher legal action by the contractor and would provide the emergency service to the citizens of Walton County.
There are a tremendous number of unanswered questions on this issue.
Two, this issue with "things left on the beach" what do you think? You have previously stated that some beaches (at least 40%) are privately owned and the owner must allow usage and could remove people so should the government have the right to play beach removal czars and take the stuff on those privately-owned beaches or not?
1. What I have said is that certain individuals hold deeds that claim ownership to the mean high water line and that a "taking" by the public through claims of "customary usage" would have to be made on a case by case determination. I believe that the public has the right to access to the "public portions" of the beach and that they should be able to utilize that beach in a manner consistent with current law. I believe that the issue is complex and current Florida law concerning this issue is making its way through the court system. It will ultimately be decided by the Supreme Court.
2. The issue of "tagging items" for removal is currently under study and review, due to legal limitations of the current ordinance. If a beach front property owner has a deed that states ownership to the mean high water line, then he/she should be held responsible for the items that are on "their property" that are in violation of an ordinance designed to provide for the protection of the public and the environmental issues. Their property is "unique" and carries with it a certain amount of responsibility and obligation. They should be good custodians of the resource.
Three, there has been some talk about beach renourishment along more beaches in Walton County. Since you are trying to get the seat of Meadows and District 5 where it has been done before, are you for or against it for the rest of sowal?
I support beach renourishment.
I believe that it is necessary to support the tourism industry and therefore the citizens of Walton County. I also believe that it has been shown to be a good return on investment. My understanding is that the projected cost for the next project is somewhere between 40-50 million dollars. The real issue is where the dollars would come from to pay for the project. It would require a combined effort of local funds (TDC dollars) - and State and Federal Grants) and is controlled by both state and federal environmental legislation. Those state and federal dollars are currently in short supply . The issue of renourishment on "privately held property" is a totally different issue that your question does not cover.
Finally a simple yes or no one for ya, I see in newspapers that the taxpayers association have concerns regarding buying that beach at eastern Lake. Would you approve it or not?
No
Not in the form it is currently drafted. We are not truly buying the land as I understand the contract. Currently the preservation easement would be held by a "yet undefined LLC".
We should protect and preserve the unique areas whenever possible, we should clearly own title to the property when taxpayer dollars are utilized to make the purchase.
I must point out that my association with the Walton County Taxpayers Association ended when I became a candidate.
Thanks again for answering my questions. I know you are busy but I think you have already given the voters some things to mull over and these may help you along.
It is only through an exchange of questions that voters will understand a candidate. My answers to your thoughtful questions are based on the information and research into the issues at this point in time. A person serving the public must always be willing to keep an open mind. All positions must be studied during the process of determing how to vote. A commissioner should then vote based on the greater public interest and not just on his/her own personal viewpoint. Sometimes those two can be in direct conflict with each other. I experienced this on several occassions while serving as a School Board member.Last edited by Bob Hudson; 05-31-2008 at 10:29 AM.
-
The Following User Says Thank You to Bob Hudson For This Useful Post:
-
Bob, earlier you said:
"Although I was asked by many to run for the District 5 Commissioner position, I made a decision to support Cindy in her re-election. I met with her personally over a year ago and told her that I would not run against her. I was in a meeting with her less that 2 weeks ago and restated my intention to support her."
Do you have any comment on the statement she made that was in today's Walton Sun? Was this expected?....
Earlier this week, Meadows told The Sun she would be supporting Republican candidate Alan Osborne, stating she felt he “would handle the job very well.”
Similar Threads
-
Robert Hall Cinco de Mayo Wine Dinner @ FIRE
By Restaurant Fire in forum Dining and FoodReplies: 1Last Post: 05-01-2008, 10:30 AM -
Introduction to Permaculture class
By sweetpea in forum Events and ActivitiesReplies: 3Last Post: 03-23-2008, 09:49 PM -
Introduction to Permaculture course
By sweetpea in forum SoWal LoungeReplies: 3Last Post: 03-23-2008, 09:48 PM -
Hudson & Marshall Auction at Embassy Suites
By amw in forum Real EstateReplies: 0Last Post: 10-16-2007, 10:04 AM -
Manatee spotted in Hudson River
By Lady D in forum SoWal LoungeReplies: 8Last Post: 08-08-2006, 06:21 AM




Reply With Quote










Bookmarks