09-02-2010, 10:19 PM #1
another walton county double standard?
Seems if your father is a high ranking official you can be released from jail a couple of hours after you (allegedly) beat your girlfriend up. I bet the girlfriend felt real safe.
And then the good people at the jail refused to give a mugshot to channel 7 claiming some statute about former law officers and their privacy. WTH? They gave one up on the deputy who was arrested a month or so ago but I guess he had no connections.
Seems the county still has not learned their lesson about public records. Wonder how much this will cost us if channel 7 pursues it?
09-02-2010, 10:55 PM #2
I'm surprised it made the news! Everything else he has done has been
sweep under the rug and disappeared! Is Daddy Chapman losing his
09-02-2010, 10:56 PM #3
Oops--that should be swept!
09-03-2010, 12:28 AM #4
Just Moved Here...
But seriously... who is this guy? How old?
quoted... "Authorities say Chapman received different treatment because he's a former law enforcement officer"
Uhhh hello people is that not what jail is for?? People who violate those laws established to protect woman against domestic violence... Why should an ex-lawman be treated differently... Don't they have solitary confinement... There's always a "separate" holding area for the offenders while being processed isn't there? And what about the solitary cells where they put the extreme cases.. like the "padded cell" for those that they fear will harm themselves.. couldn't he have been contained there? <I did say contained> lolz detained...
A man was arrested in Santa Rosa... held for 3 hours and 22 mins and died... he was alone in a holding cell... Report see link to article July 13, 2010 06:40:00 AM
Domestic violence suspect dies in holding cell | rosa, beach, santa - News - The News Herald
Seems to me anyone committing domestic violence should be held a minimum of overnight and appear before a judge on the following court day...and absolutely the safety of the victim ensured.... and yes... no matter who you are... even Mel Gibson... omg another topic.. don't get me started.. I'm new in town.. but geeezsh!
Arrests Nov. 2 - Crime & Courts : The News Herald Michael Scott Chapman, 27, 2836 Fairmont Drive, Panama City ... battery, resisting an officer without violence, PPD. ... W 19th St., Panama City, domestic battery, PCPD ...
IS this the same fellow?
What about this?
.Empty Stocking Fund total, donors listed - News - The News Herald Trust $5,000 Peoples First Community Bank, for the Domestic Violence Program Chapman Family Foundation Inc., for the Domestic Violence Program $2,500 Anonymous ...
Are these related to the same fellow? Tell me more... private message me if you wish to remain anonymous on the site.. omg Rumor has it... I think we should write a novella... where are those FSU Film guys.. lol.. too much coffee today gotta get to bed..
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09-03-2010, 01:59 AM #5
09-03-2010, 11:56 AM #6
#1 The Sheriff Dept and the County Jail are ran by two different entities. The Sheriff does not control the jail or how they do things, so how does that affect the Sheriff?
#2 Barker was not let go under the McMillian administration. He resigned under QA to apply for the job of EM Director. He did get that job. Later, QA pursued criminal charges against him for illegal wiretapping, of which he was tried and exonerated of by a unanimous jury vote. And the BCC ended up paying all of his legal bills. A year or so after the 911 project was completed, he left to pursue other interests, at one time he owned a Wine store in Blue Mountain and was also in the Real Estate business.
You really should put out facts if you are going to post anything at all.
09-03-2010, 08:15 PM #7
This really has nothing to do with the Sheriff's Office unless it is shown that someone employed there called and asked for the "special hearing."
But the actions of the jail are appalling and someone should be disciplined for allowing this to happen. After Chapman wrote the report awhile back on the jail you would think he would be the last person to get a favor. But this is Walton County we are talking about and I suspect there was a deal made somewhere.
09-04-2010, 06:10 AM #8
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09-04-2010, 11:29 PM #9
#1 Sorry for ruffling your feathers!
#2 I know the two are ran by different entities. But someone had to call the Judge for him to show up at the jail. At 11:00 pm to have a special hearing for JR. It seems to me that it would be easy for Sr to make that call. Seeing how he dropped Jr. off at the jail.
#3 Correct me if I am wrong. Wasn't EM ran by Quinn Mac. Why did he have to resign to apply for the EM director. EOC was ran by the S.O. till the commissioners took it back from Ralph Johnson. Why did he not just get transferred? My google memory does not recall Barker being tried by a jury. I remembered it being swept under the rug like a lot of other things back in that day. Thanks for clearing that up. If that's FACT.
#4 My point is that SR should have never been put in the # 2 position due to his background anyways. This incident is just one of many to come. Once again they tried to cover Barkers latest incident up as well as JR's. SHAME SHAME.
P.S. I know that you support the Sheriff. That is clear to me. I may or may not feel the same. That is my choose as a taxpayer and as a voter. As it is yours. It seems to me that you are a Barker and Chapman fan also as well. Sorry. Maybe wisdom will strike you one day.
09-05-2010, 06:54 AM #10
At that time there really was no EM. They were trying to get it set up. My Grandfather had been the Civil Defense Director and they were making the transition to Emergency Management. All of this was under the BCC. Barker along with several others applied and he was hired to set up that department and to put into place the 911 system, which QA had attempted but did not get done.
If Chapman made the call, so what? He did not do anything that a Father would not have done under similar circumstances. Do not fault the guy cause he happens to have or can get a phone number. If there was a breakdown in policy, that would have occurred at the jail. Asking for a guy to be fired because he did what a Father would do is ludicrous.
Friends or not. Quit using yellow journalism tactics and speak facts. As always there are two sides to everything. And yes I support the Sheriff, the stuff I have seen happen over the years, Mike has a long ways to go before he would ever lose my support, and based on his character, I do not see that ever happening.
09-05-2010, 07:47 AM #11
Wrobert, please don't tell me you think this was right. Joe Citizen would not get anywhere near the same treatment and you know it. The Sheriff should have spoke out against it and disciplined anyone on his payroll who was involved.
And the handling of the Barker affair (no pun intended) was terrible. You can't seriously tell me that you agreed with that.
As to this incident, I agree the onus is on the jail and whoever made the call. Maybe now that you have re-elected Ms Commander you can get her to go in and clean this up.
09-05-2010, 11:02 AM #12
Recall Election For Sheriff's Race
Yes. Another Big Boy Sheriff Adkinson campaign promise down the toilet. He promised us a transparent administration devoid of corruption. What a joke. The Department's number-two man has his son arrested on a serious assault charge, and a circuit judge comes in late at night to post a bond. Believe me, if it was your son or mine it would be wait for first-appearance within 24-hours of arrest.
oh yes, the sheriff wants the keys to take back the jail which his predecessor gave back to the county. If the Walton Co. Commission gives him the jail back which Adkinson wants they'll be putting family, friends and political supporters back on the street after arrest so fast it'll make your head spin.
Another reason, this I "never" served in the military Sheriff has troubling issues being our top county law enforcement official.
09-05-2010, 07:03 PM #13
It only the good ole boy system. Bill just needs to get the next 5 years in. So he can have a very good retirement
09-06-2010, 10:53 AM #14
Double standard for Walton
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09-06-2010, 12:51 PM #15
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09-06-2010, 01:16 PM #16
Have you ever heard of the 14th Amendment? Equal treatment under the law? Or maybe misuse of an official position? Can you honestly say that it is right for one person to get released on their signature and another person get a bond for thousands of dollars for the same charge?
As far as the jail, every news report says that no one from the Sheriff's Office made the call to the Judge. The reports say the JAIL called the judge because they feared for Chapman's safety. WTH? Either the Sheriff's Office lied or the jail made the call. Either way it is wrong. If the jail cannot keep someone overnight without them getting hurt somebody needs to be investigating.
09-06-2010, 04:24 PM #17"By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest."
09-06-2010, 06:36 PM #18
another walton double standard
09-06-2010, 09:47 PM #19
Bill Chapman is more powerful than you thank! Just like big Mike
09-06-2010, 10:07 PM #20
I heard on Channel 7 news that the jail is in trouble for releasing the photo of a deputy arrested last month and then refusing to release Chapman's photo. They were apparently wrong to release the other photo by Florida Statute. But it is funny they only figured out what the law is when it suited them. The reporter also said that no one from the jail would speak to them on orders of Lyle Seigler, county administrator. WTH? You would think public servants could at least speak about important issues to the press. They always spoke to the press when Ronnie Bell and Chris Mitchell were around. Guess not now huh?
09-07-2010, 01:41 PM #21
I do not know if the same set of circumstances could apply to Joe Citizen. Just by GC being a former leo, sort of sets things off to be different from the beginning.
I do not see anything for the Sheriff to discipline.
As with most things, there are always two sides to everything. I find it aggravating when elected officials choose not to fully disclose the whole story, I have seen several do this in the past because it does give credence to a single opinion, but I trust that the Sheriff knows what he is is doing.
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09-07-2010, 01:44 PM #22
There are no provisions in Florida statute or State Constitution for a recall election of the Sheriff in Walton County.
Just because you may not like how something happens does not make it corrupt. Blaming the Sheriff for this incident, which as far as I can tell has absolutely nothing to do with him, is absurd.
09-07-2010, 01:47 PM #23
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09-07-2010, 05:36 PM #29
So, some sembelance of the truth has finally emerged, but before that there was what appears to be a lie. Some form of punishment is handed down, but these are a positions of trust. When he fired the deputy in the beginning it was because they brought discredit to the department, now its different because there was only a demotion.
09-07-2010, 08:54 PM #30
09-07-2010, 09:23 PM #31
From what I am reading the Sheriff moved into damage control mode and took action. We will see if it is enough to take the heat off. I am willing to bet that if a regular deputy had called the Judge at home to get a signature bond for their son the punishment would have been termination. Apparently from the news reports Chapman has admited to making the call and he gets a week's vacation and a paper demotion.
I do stand corrected about the jail people's role in this and apologize for accusing them, although I am not happy about the county preventing employees from talking to the media. That is a bad policy.
09-08-2010, 03:31 PM #32
Did Mrs. Comander vote to give the Sheriff/EOC the 3+ Million for the Oil Spill?
09-08-2010, 04:05 PM #33
Ditto - all I know of is the unanimous vote (even Brannon showed up for the meeting) months ago giving the Sheriff approval to carry out the plans to protect our beaches and coastal dune lakes. Projected cost wasn't 3 million though.
09-08-2010, 04:47 PM #35
Well---It is costly to operate a "special" command center from day 1 and wine and dine your office staff (including secretarys and etc) 24 hours a day--this included overtime and etc. It was closed "only" when BP said they would not pay for anything
not authorized by them. Has Mrs. Comander asked "where's the money"? Talking about conflict of interest: Ronnie Bell-employed by C.W. Roberts and paid consultant
of Walton County--also--Bill Chapman's son-in-law. Go Figure!
09-08-2010, 09:26 PM #36
Why not make him walk the beat. And truly demote him and take his pay
09-08-2010, 09:28 PM #37
I wonder if they wine and dine on taxpayer funds
09-08-2010, 09:33 PM #38
If it was a conflict of interest then was there any money involved
09-09-2010, 05:14 AM #39
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09-09-2010, 09:11 PM #42
For Chapman. The way WJHG 7 said it the other night. Was there would be two Majors within the Sheriff's Office. Chapman being one of the two. But he would be taking a 10,000.00 dollar cut in pay. FOR WHAT!!!! LESS RESPONSIBILITY= Demotion. Come on Sheriff you will have to do better than this. It looks to me that Chapman demoted hisself and took a weeks vacation. On the week of Labor day non the less.
09-09-2010, 09:21 PM #43
09-09-2010, 10:22 PM #44
This seems to be a pattern at the Sheriff's Dept. It took two employees to replace Barker and now I guess two employees will replace Chapman, one being the man himself. Sounds like we cannot afford anyone else getting in trouble because at this rate we will go broke.
09-10-2010, 06:15 AM #45
I'll bet his Dad is super glad to have put his career in jeopardy for Junior, now that he's BACK in jail on a SECOND domestic violence charge (sounds like he was having trouble with his wife AND girlfriend):
Chapman Arrested On Second Charge
Greg Chapman was booked into the Walton County jail Thursday afternoon on a domestic violence injunction charge. The report is, this warrant was from Santa Rosa County. Last week, Chapman was arrested in Walton County on a domestic violence charge after he struck his girlfriend.
Chapman is listed with the Santa Rosa Clerk of Courts as having a pending domestic violence case with Shelley Chapman as the plaintiff. The case last had a docket date of September 2 with judge Bergosh. The case was filed August 6. The case lists a temporary injunction.
Chapman, a former Walton Sheriff’s deputy and son of Bill Chapman with the sheriff’s office, was released only hours after his arrest last week, when the judge made a late night visit to the jail to hold a bond hearing. The quick release was based on Chapman’s former law enforcement job and keeping him from having to stay in solitary confinement. The matter resulted in Walton Sheriff Mike Adkinson moving Bill Chapman from Undersheriff to Major. The jail reports Chapman remained in jail last night.
09-10-2010, 01:28 PM #46
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Wow, this case keeps getting classier and classier.
P.S. I hope one of these women shoots this abusive arsehole.
09-10-2010, 01:39 PM #48
09-10-2010, 04:52 PM #50
Would be a lot happier if the sheriff would just make him a plain deputy to punish him But not fire him times are hard
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