Getting Rid of Thorny Vines in Native Landscapes

**Paula** · 05-25-2005, 05:49 AM

Hi:

The landscape in our community is primary native plants with mulch (no grass) covering the ground. It looks lovely for sure (and we feel good about preserving the natural environment) and my only concern is that there are these aggressive thorny vines that grow in the native brush. They can wind themselves around the bushes and kill them. So far, every time we visit I take my garden shears and cut them down, but I'd like to find a more permanent solution so I can spend those few hours of my vacation doing something else.

Can anyone tell me what these vines are and how to get rid of them permanently (or at least nearly permanently)?

Thanks.

**kurt** · 05-25-2005, 06:16 AM

I've got a couple of varieties. The real thin ones are the toughest to weed out. Got to get them by the roots. I leave them usually as I haven't seen them kill anything.

**Smiling JOe** · 05-25-2005, 07:47 AM

They are very aggressive, and you should know that by simply cutting them, you are making them come back stronger. Kurt has the right idea -- get the entire root. If we are thinking of the same plant, you can eat the new growth at the tips of the plants. They make great salad additions. I'm not kidding. If you can't beat 'em, eat 'em.

**Paula** · 05-25-2005, 07:49 AM

The vines seem to wind around the trees and shrubs and it looks like they crowd out the leaves on the branches (the bushes and trees without the vines on them seem more lush but I'll take a more careful look next time I'm there). We have some very nice native trees and bushes and I'd like to see them stay healthy and grow big over time. The vines are also prickly along the paths and in the little yard so it's good to get rid of them so people who are not familiar with the thorny vines and children don't get scratched or step on them when barefoot. So, I'm pretty motivated to get rid of them, even if it means spending 2-3 hours every few months cutting them down. I'll see how hard it is to get to the roots.

**Smiling JOe** · 05-25-2005, 08:00 AM

Paula, try probing around at the roots with a pitch fork to loosen the soil so that you can get to the roots. They have a little balloon in the root which helps to anchor them. They will take over if you let them.

**Paula** · 05-25-2005, 12:13 PM

Thanks for the advice, Kurt and Smiling Joe. I'll try the root approach when I have more time to spend on them, perhaps during a November trip when the weather is a bit cooler and it's quieter.

As for eating the tips of these plants, I'm not sure I'll give that a try in case we're not talking about the same plant! Although dandelion greens are a safe bet (but fortunately we don't have those at our place in Florida).

**Landlocked** · 05-25-2005, 12:42 PM

I don't think I'd try eating them either. With my luck, I'd be munching on a nice, juicy poison ivy salad.

**Paula** · 05-25-2005, 06:55 PM

I really like the poem that is attached to your postings. Did you write it?

**RiverOtter** · 05-25-2005, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by Paula

I really like the poem that is attached to your postings. Did you write it?

It's part of the lyrics from One Particular Harbor by Jimmy Buffett

Very cool song.

**Smiling JOe** · 05-25-2005, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by Paula

As for eating the tips of these plants, I'm not sure I'll give that a try in case we're not talking about the same plant! Although dandelion greens are a safe bet (but fortunately we don't have those at our place in Florida).

Probably not a good idea to eat them if you have any question, especially if your neighbor is very loose with the RoundUp. I would hate for you to be thinking your Poison Oak is edible -- the thought of you eating a toxic plant is not pleasant.

**Landlocked** · 05-26-2005, 08:18 AM

"It's part of the lyrics from One Particular Harbor by Jimmy Buffett Very cool song."

RiverOtter-
That song makes my hair stand up every time I hear it.

**RiverOtter** · 05-26-2005, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Landlocked

"It's part of the lyrics from One Particular Harbor by Jimmy Buffett Very cool song."

RiverOtter-
That song makes my hair stand up every time I hear it.

Same here. We start playing Buffett every time we hit 30A. Lowers the blood presure from the 6 hour drive :wink:

**Paula** · 05-26-2005, 09:22 AM

Which CD do you have. Looks like I'll have to buy it...

**RiverOtter** · 05-26-2005, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by Paula

Which CD do you have. Looks like I'll have to buy it...

That song is probably on a few of his CD's. The one we usually listen to on the boat is Feeding Frenzy (being a musician I love live music). The other CD I have it on is from a box set and the CD title is Boats (go figure :oops: ). Graytonbound had to put a "No Buffett Before Dusk" rule on me and the little Otters

. She's not much of a fan

.

**GraytonBound** · 05-26-2005, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by RiverOtter

She's not much of a fan

.

It's not that I'm not a fan, I just think he sounds better at dusk (teatime).

(It's also my way of avoiding the same songs 24/7)

**RiverOtter** · 05-26-2005, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by GraytonBound

(It's also my way of avoiding the same songs 24/7)

Does that mean we'll now have a Blues Traveler rule now

?

**Landlocked** · 05-26-2005, 10:29 AM

You two sound just like me and my bride.

**kurt** · 05-26-2005, 11:30 AM

**Landlocked** · 05-26-2005, 11:38 AM

Ditto Kurt

**GraytonBound** · 05-26-2005, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by RiverOtter

Does that mean we'll now have a Blues Traveler rule now

?

Speaking of 24/7

.......YES!

But what does this have to do with Getting Rid of Thorny Vines in Native Landscapes ??

**RiverOtter** · 05-26-2005, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by GraytonBound

Speaking of 24/7

.......YES!

But what does this have to do with Getting Rid of Thorny Vines in Native Landscapes ??

Well.... I'd say Blues Traveler could been seen doing the same thing that Bob Marley is doing in Kurt's post

**phdphay** · 06-15-2005, 11:13 PM

Speaking of RoundUp, that doesn't even seem to work. But you've convinced me to dig the vines up, rather than cut them. Thanks.

BTW my husband and I listen to Bob Marley when we arrive in the area and cross the 331 bridge. When I'm just with my daughter, we crank up her hip-hop mixed CD's. Yes, I know the lyrics are nasty, but the beat and the anger are real motivators when I'm jogging.