Thread: Suzanne Harris Gets the Boot
02-15-2012, 04:57 AM #1
Suzanne Harris Gets the Boot
Scott Brannon, who is also the TDC Chairman, said he has received complaints about Suzanne Harris continuing to be on the TDC Board. He passed the gavel and made a motion to immediately remove Harris from the TDC Council based on her opposition to the commission and what he says is a violation of the code of conduct. With an ethics complaint against commissioner Larry Jones by Harris, he excused himself. The motion carried 4-0.
Surprised it took so long.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
02-15-2012, 09:06 AM #2
02-16-2012, 05:57 AM #3
I'd say she has gone too far. It looks like it's nothing but a personal vendetta now. Maybe she needs the boot right outta the county?
Walton County activist Suzanne Harris wants County Commissioner Scott Brannon held in contempt of court.In a lawsuit filed Feb. 9, she contends Brannon has conducted county business from a personal computer, and by doing so has violated a 2009 court decree that commissioners use only publicly-owned equipment for official communication.
02-16-2012, 06:53 AM #4
How do you feel she has gone to far? I am not a fan but you really got to give her credit. I am really not a fan of her lawyer
02-16-2012, 07:30 AM #5
This is a small town. How can a person get away with crapping where we eat?
02-16-2012, 08:40 AM #6
I feel she is fully entitled to her opinion. I just wish she would quit using OUR tax money to express it.I think of government as the Mafia without the moral authority or predictability. Ron Hart
02-16-2012, 09:06 AM #7
Seems sort of inappropriate that the guy she is suing is the one that made the motion to boot her. And she would not have a case if they would stop violating the law.
02-16-2012, 09:11 AM #8
Law is the law but to handcuff officials and tell them to always keep their mouth shut or you'll be sued is counterproductive. We have to be able to get business done! I am sick of the petty BS.
02-17-2012, 08:46 AM #9
At the end of the last Walton County Commissioner meeting, Commissioner Scott Brannon asked to have Suzanne Harris removed from the TDC Board. In an email sent to WZEP, Harris says, “This is most likely the reason Scott wanted me off the TDC.”
Harris is referring to a court request for a Plaintiff’s for Contempt and Show Cause Order filed February 9th. In the complaint, Harris says Brannon conducted county business from a personal computer. The complaint says Brannon maintains a computer in his office separate from the county equipment. The complaint also notes an order that the commissioners only use their official email accounts to conduct county business. This after a previous court action over public disclosure.
In the court paper, Harris says she believes Brannon maintains the computer and uses it to conduct county business through personnel email in violation of the court order. She says Brannon has demonstrated a lack of compliance with the court’s previous order.
The complaint and an email copy released shows emails between Brannon and others discussing county business through emails with an aol.com email address. This would not be the official county email address. It is unknown if Brannon also copied the emails to his county address for record keeping. Harris’ complaint states the previous court order requires only the county email to be used.
During the commissioner meeting, Brannon said he has received comments from others who have questioned why Harris was still on the county’s TDC Board. Brannon asked to have her removed. He stated there is a clear violation of the TDC Board’s Code of Conduct. Brannon is also the TDC Chairman.
As the BCC Chairman, Brannon passed the gavel and made a motion to immediately remove Harris from the TDC Council based on her opposition to the commission and what he says is a violation of the code of conduct. With an ethics complaint against commissioner Larry Jones by Harris, he excused himself from the discussion.
The commissioners discussed the motion and questioned if they were asking Harris to step down or asking that she be removed. They questioned if a vote was needed. The attorney said a vote was needed to remove Harris. The commissioners voted to appoint people to the TDC Board. Eventually Brannon said his motion was clear, he was asking for Harris’ removal. The motion carried 4-0.
02-18-2012, 08:09 AM #10A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is still getting its boots on!
02-18-2012, 08:36 AM #11
Misty, just one question. Do you participate in your local government to the extent of attending BCC meetings? If so, do you express your wants and opinions at those meetings? Sorry, the second question was an afterthought. If not, while it is certainly your right to express your opinion, it would carry more weight if you are even a minor participant in your local governmental affairs. Oh, and one more thing. I was alive and well during Nazi Germany. I see no such government here.I think of government as the Mafia without the moral authority or predictability. Ron Hart
02-18-2012, 08:47 AM #12A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is still getting its boots on!
02-19-2012, 07:59 AM #13
Misty, I see you choose to ignore and not answer my simple question.I think of government as the Mafia without the moral authority or predictability. Ron Hart
02-19-2012, 09:43 AM #14
02-19-2012, 10:35 AM #15
02-19-2012, 10:36 AM #16
02-19-2012, 10:45 AM #17
I assure you Ms. Moliterno I am far from mentally incompetent. I've answered the question more times than I care to count. You are welcome to figure out where it was posted.
The truly mentally incompetent are those who think anyone with opinions that differ from theirs are mentally incompetent.
Have a great day.
Last edited by Misty; 02-19-2012 at 11:21 PM.A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is still getting its boots on!
02-19-2012, 11:47 AM #18
02-19-2012, 12:05 PM #19
02-19-2012, 05:09 PM #20
02-19-2012, 05:10 PM #21
this thought was posted not that long ago..
"Looks like Blue's buddy Brannon will keep stalling. Tuesday before Thanksgiving ought to be an inconvenient date for many and reports will get buried with holiday news and events." (oh, how quickly we forget news in our society today). Good whistle blowers usually do get the boot! Suzanne, you have intestional fortitude! I look up to you. Also, thanks Misty, I appreciate your resolve. Unfortunately, good ole boy politics are still alive and well in Sowal.
02-19-2012, 05:15 PM #22
Yes, I agree. Nice enough?
"if the boot fit's, wear it with pride"....that's what rich uncle Snedly used to say!
02-20-2012, 12:09 AM #23
I'll answer the question again for all the incompetents who are to lazy or arrogant to go back and look for what I said. Yes, as a matter of fact I do attend BCC meetings. I don't say anything but I listen. I also read and try to decipher fact from fiction as far as our local news reports go.
I also read these web forums (I like Brawlers better than this one because people aren't quite so UPPITY over there) and don't have the attitude that because they attend all the meetings and rub elbows and noses with the BCC that they are better than and/or more informed than anyone else. They aren't quite so arrogant in their disdain for folks that don't share their personal views either.
What irritates me is the UPPITY folks who want this bridge at any cost that won't address the letter from the County Admin to the DOT that effectively brokered the deal to build the bridge. This was a lie and a scam from the get go and this rush to push this through with Dawn Moliterno telling us if we dont do this now, the money will go away never to return was BS. The BS about this being a life or death issue is what it is also....BS!
The DOT has committed to 4 lane 331 regardless of whether or not the County can produce the funds to build the bridge. Get er done! Evacuations can be handled by shutting down the bridge to south bound traffic. If people in the South end choose to stay during a hurricane that's a personal choice and won't change evacuation times regardless, it also won't save lives if wind velocity reaches 45 mph because the bridge will be shut down anyway.
Taxing the people for personal agendas is ridiculous. Making us the highest taxed County in the State ensures that none of the folks currently in office will be re-elected but the damage will have already been done if the tax passes. Like I said before...if I want something I either have to save the money to purchase it or I don't buy it. I don't have the luxury of living above my means and the County should not have the luxury off the backs of the taxpayers either. if this can't be done without taxing or tolling the people of Walton County then by golly we just don't need it done right now.
Last edited by Misty; 02-20-2012 at 12:12 AM.A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is still getting its boots on!
02-20-2012, 05:15 AM #24
I have a question that just came to mind. I know that the current BCC can borrow money and obligate future boards to pay it back, but can the current BCC obligate future boards to certain tax rates? If not, what happens if a future board reduces the tax rate? Do the funds to repay the debt then come from the General Fund?
02-20-2012, 07:02 AM #25
As I understand it they can not issue a bond, because of that scenerio right there. The voters can vote on the bond which obligates us to the tax. The 1 % that we pay for the garbage is not a bonded tax, the BCC approved that after a non binding referendum failed. As I understand it, that could be removed and we could all start paying for our own garbage. That is as I understand it.
02-20-2012, 08:09 AM #26
This is a thread about Harris. Bridge thread is at http://www.sowal.com/bb/showthread.p...for-US-HWY-331
Oops! Was that uppity of me?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
02-20-2012, 03:59 PM #27
Not at all, but as it is not in my power to move things or delete things I answered a question that was asked.
02-20-2012, 05:43 PM #28
Merging and moving threads is standard operating procedure. No reason to have multiple threads on the same topic or in the wrong subforum. That gets confusing and is counterproductive. Quite often we get frantic and accusing messages about someone's thread being deleted when they were simply moved to the appropriate forum or merged to the appropriate thread.
Last edited by kurt; 02-21-2012 at 06:43 AM.
02-21-2012, 06:44 AM #30
Kurt, I was not implying anything, I was just explaining my rational, no issues with how you run it and appreciate the forum.
Bob I wasnt referring to you. You are a valued member and contributor to our community. Thank you.
02-21-2012, 09:23 AM #32
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I'm a local. I'm not mentally incompetent nor am I stupid. I just don't happen to agree with Becnel Reps. who work PR for Sandestin Investments LLC., the BCC and the charade being perpetrated against the taxpayers in Walton County in regard to funding the 331 bridge.
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It is hard to follow threads that started out one place and are merged with something else. If you found that comment disrespectful and think it warrants my removal, I'm sure you will have no trouble doing so but you might want to go back and look at the mean and hateful comments in this thread from those you DO "value".
Have a nice day.
Last edited by Misty; 02-21-2012 at 12:53 PM.A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is still getting its boots on!
02-21-2012, 12:06 PM #33
02-21-2012, 02:18 PM #34
Misty FYI Dawn in this thread is not Dawn Moliterno!
02-21-2012, 02:31 PM #35
02-21-2012, 02:33 PM #36
I did go back through this thread and some of the comment were what I would consider not nice. I would like to use an analogy for what I believe I saw here. I've seen the word Nazi, Dawn the TDC directors name, stupid and ignorant and uppitiy. Now in football referee mode you were the one that the ref saw throw the last punch and was flagged for it.
Now for my rant. Idlewind asked a question that did not relate to the bridge but the tax, the post just before was by misty, in which you referenced the bridge and not Ms. Harris. As one of those Uppity folks who like the idea of the bridge but did not like the way it was handled and addressed, which I believed I addressed myself in a former post, I think I will address who I am. The moniker Bob Wells is my name, I know very few of the other folks personally on this board. Some may know me but I am a unique persson and to look at me you would see that. I felt that when I put MY BELIEFS out there it was important to me that I use my real name. That being said let me tell you who I am. I have been told to be nice by Kurt, sometimes I rant and rave on here. I am the middle class, I work as a Firefighter/ Paramedic, I own property here and pay taxes here. I commute the 331 bridge as does my wife, I have lived in walton County since 1994. I am politically active in my own way. SoWal has many political signs put up and easily I put up approx. 500 in a busy season. I also take them down unlike some. I have backed winners and losers. I go to Tallahassee to lobby, but attend very few BCC meetings. Not afraid to support someone everyone hates if I think they will do a better job. Supported Alex Sink and there is no way I will support Gov Scott. I believe the office deserves respect and attempt at every turn to apply titles to all our politicians whether I like them or not. I have been married 28 years in March have 3 great children, a Teacher, Firefighter and a Navy Service member, I have 1 awesome daughter in law, I lean middle conservative and vote in general elections for the person not the party, am registered Republican but that is subject to change depending on who is running. I like Walton County and when I retire I will be spending part of it here, the other part will be in Costa Rica, unless we have grandchildren and then my wife will be telling me where I will retire. Thanks for letting me rant, we don't have to agree but we can disagree without being disagreeable.
02-22-2012, 10:35 AM #37
Sounds like you need to get in the Church on the pew!
02-22-2012, 01:09 PM #38A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is still getting its boots on!
02-22-2012, 02:10 PM #39
I get it now your just a MEAN person!
02-23-2012, 08:23 AM #40
Bob, thanks for the very interesting and informative view of one poster's life. I personally think it would be very useful to many posters if more were known of the backround of those posting. Once again, thank you for the insight.I think of government as the Mafia without the moral authority or predictability. Ron Hart
The unprecedented personal attacks against Misty could be construed as a crude attempt to stifle dissent.
Ideas should be allowed to sink or swim on the merits, not the poster's background. Some people prefer to remain behind the curtain. Fair enough. Protect your sources.
It is up to you, dear reader, to decipher whose content could sprout vegetables.
You Go Misty!
I don't know Ms. Harris but my hat is off to her and anyone else who can take on Walton County and come out of court 2-0. We need more like her. Let Freedom Ring.
My previous post, "No Bridge Now", began as a new thread but was "incorporated", perhaps suppressing the message. I don't always see hidden hands everywhere, however, no one has answered the question, "who is this bridge for?" It probably dovetails nicely with Sandestin's Casino proposal. But how will it help the average Joe more than it hurts?
02-24-2012, 04:58 PM #42
The original proposal by the state which started all this was for a toll bridge. Greg and Kenneth came back with a counterproposal to focus on 331 and which proposal suggested a 20-25% cost share by the county up to a mx of 75 mil. The estimated cost of doing both bridge and 331 to I-10 was, not coincidentally, about 300 mil.
An effort will be made to re-direct those state funds of 102 mil to 331, leaving the bridge for later. Whether that effort will resonate with the BCC and, if successful there, the FDOT, remains to be seen.
Nobody doubts having the bridge woud be nice, but almost everyone would agree that having 331 widened should come first and is much more desirable than the bridge right now. One might anticipate that those who say otherwise stand a better than average chance of having a vested financial interest in the relatively limited benefits that would accrue to having a bridge rather than a better and safer and more useful 331.
Watch carefully to see who squeals the loudest.
02-24-2012, 06:09 PM #43
Anyhoo you should remove your tinfoil hat
02-25-2012, 07:09 AM #44
02-25-2012, 01:59 PM #45
Now Bob, as I am a major mover and shaker I would venture to guess I have less of a vested financial interest than my wealth may let on, as for Furthers comment how it will help more than it hurts will be dependent upon the cost one is willing to pay. I for one believe it will be cheaper for me to pay the tax over the toll, but I am not a numbers guy.
I heard someone say at the last bridge meeting I attended that they would like to know the difference between median income of the Nowal folks vs the Sowal folks, because according to him the income is higher in the south. That being said they believe they will pay more on a sales tax than the Nowal folks. I wonder do folks who have higher income deserve more military protection, better government service, schools because they pay more in taxes.
Sorry Misty, we seemed to have hijacked yur thread again, but in fairness I was just responding, no attack intended.
Last edited by Bob Wells; 02-25-2012 at 02:00 PM.
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