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For many, many years, I've heard nothing but praise for Mosquito Control. I have no reason to believe that the whole organization is tainted even at this point. It is truly unfortunate that the weakest link in an organization can do a tremendous amount of damage to the whole group. I have no...

Your post goes hand in hand with my long held premise that all BPO beaches are not all the same. Just off the top of my head, we have resort beaches, planned community beaches, neighborhood beaches, condo beaches, and individually owned single home beaches. There are probably others that I...

Maybe, but I bet you would be asking (like people did at the BCC emergency meeting) that you, as the owner, still be allowed to actually go in your backyard. Hopefully, you'll never have to find out how you would react. Don't misunderstand me, I wish everyone had voluntarily minimized any...

Thanks, and THAT is a reasonable request. Unfortunately, what you did in the post I responded to was far different. Can we agree that a temporary suspension of the right to be on one's own deeded property, excluding all others except for the deeded owners, seems like an over reach? Similar to...

While the information you posted is available to those who choose to do the work, what exactly is your purpose for posting their personal information here? They aren't hiding, so what does this accomplish? Bay County found a way to allow deeded owners to set foot on their beaches while keeping...

No sir, I'm not calling people who want to go to the beach extremists, I'm calling people who go to extremes (including exaggerating, embellishing, instigating, manipulating, misleading, and other forms of misinformation) extremists. If the shoe fits, feel free to wear it.

The credibility of customary use leaders was seriously damaged when they allowed their "followers" to believe that people couldn't walk all 26 miles of beach in Walton County, that there was nowhere to go to the beach where people wouldn't be chased off, that all the beaches were public before...

Are people who are undecided or not in favor of CU welcomed at this "town hall"? Not sure that is really an appropriate designation for this meeting unless it is truly geared for the whole citizenry.

It is difficult to get people to run. We had a wonderful candidate in Bill Fletcher in the last election, but he was torpedoed by basically one influential local business leader and one little word: compromise. What a shame that the idea of any compromise on the beach issues caused us to lose...

Even if the Foreman property were offered to the County, it does not offer what the Golf Garden property offers to the County or to Miramar Beach, especially Miramar Beach. I had no idea that Miramar Beach was such a large portion of our bed tax revenues. They definitely deserve some amenities...

Do you mean the Foreman property near Chat Holly and 393?

I wasn't able to be there, but watched online. So disappointing that Tony Anderson and Trey Nick did not support this purchase, especially with Nick being the representative for the Miramar Beach district. While no one is thrilled with paying above appraised value, the BCC has done that a...

If not for overdevelopment, constantly approving density increases, and continuing to draw escalating millions of visitors, I bet none of this would have happened. Pandora's box was opened. :cry: Apparently smart growth just wasn't a thing in Walton County.

Ah, the way we were! Fun to reminisce.

You are an interesting character! Pretty sure that I haven't called anyone a name, including you. I asked some questions. Pretty sure that Dave doesn't need you to answer for or defend him. I've been on SOWAL for a number of years and commented on a variety of topics. Just not a whole lot on...

I have contributed nowhere near 115 pages of comments or axe grinding. I specifically said that I have inland property. I am a full time resident. I am not a lawyer and I am definitely not a liar, but people like you will believe what you want anyway or you wouldn't make the kinds of...

You are making interesting assumptions. I am asking for clarification. Many statements have been made that don't make sense to me and don't seem to be consistent and/or supported by independent facts that I can find. If I could go buy a piece of beach for $400, I would do it and I suspect...

With all due respect, the premise that a beach parcel has no more value than a filing fee is, to use your word, "ridiculous". There would be no fight if that were the case. The County would be snapping up beach for $400 a pop with eminent domain, don't you think? Also, given your premise, I...

I suspect the DEP is your best bet, but they aren't the epitome of enforcement either. One little bit of consolation is that a considerable number of retaining/seawalls are made of a composite material that doesn't rust.

Thanks for posting this. Sad that any property is allowed to fall into this kind of disrepair regardless of where it is. It appears that the one with the rusted metal is for sale. Hopefully, someone will purchase it and make repairs.

What a shame that this is the way people handle differences. Name calling, disparaging, ridiculing, and spreading hate all divide our citizens and resolve nothing. This is true for both sides of the customary use issue in my opinion and our politics in general. No wonder so many children...

:bang::bang::bang: I have an aversion to beating my head against the wall dealing with unmovable people who make faulty assumptions, so believe what you will. :wave:

No disrespect meant, but did you read what I said? If so, you either are totally unwilling to accept any differing perspective from yours or you may have a reading comprehension problem. Your position is clear. My words speak for me, not your misrepresented version of my words above.

My point has nothing to do with a ratio. My point is that you are exaggerating some things and omitting others. It goes back to dealing with facts instead of emotional diatribes. There is not an "arsenal of lawyers" representing BPOs. Hundreds of BPOs are being represented by a number of...

I guess this means that you don't count the FBFA attorney(s) or any of the attorneys representing clients who have intervened FOR customary use instead of against it?

Unfortunately, a public debate at this point probably wouldn't alter people's opinions and would be a moot point since the case is in court. Until there are some rulings or new information, seems that the current topics have been exhausted.

I've seen some places on the beach that don't seem to have many issues even with substantial stretches of private beach. What I have noticed is that more of the people on those beaches seem to be minimalists, similar to "old time" beach use. Most seem to: Use towels or chairs and an umbrella...

"I wish we would all devote the time and energy that goes into bickering and fighting into a campaign for beach etiquette and education for protecting our beach ecosystems and wildlife." (from my comment above). Interesting that focusing our energies on improving behaviors, educating, and...

Just out of curiosity, what would you do if you knew the real names behind the pseudonyms? Would you thank them for their honesty? Would you suddenly give more credence to their words? Would you defend their right to express their opinion without being demeaned or villainized for their views...

There has been more than enough name calling to go around and it isn't limited to one side. I wish we could all go back to peaceful co-existence. I wish we would all devote the time and energy that goes into bickering and fighting into a campaign for beach etiquette and for protecting our...

I see both sides of this issue. I did not say that I was taking a side. I said that "All of this bashing and class warfare is just causing more discontent and less liklihood that those who have deeded access will want to share IMO. It keeps everyone all riled up. If both sides focused on...

I don't see a post by FBB on this thread.

Interesting distinction on property rights. If the theory is correct that the beaches should be for all and not private, then the real beef is with the people who sold the beaches in the first place. It's pretty clear that those original sellers (government, early developers) believed the...

This is where the Azurro condominiums were going to be built, but a lawsuit ended up in a settlement allowing 3 private homes to be built instead. Hopefully, once the pilings are in, they will restore as much of the dune as possible, but I don't know what is planned. So many of us wanted the...

No more roads through the forest. The proposal is NOT for a one way road out. Nothing good will come of putting another road through the forest. It will just make the already congested east end of 30A even more congested. Some people will never take NO for an answer. I guess Walton County...

Some people will never take NO for an answer. I guess Walton County will continue to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to invade or divide up our preservation areas in spite of repeated failure to gain approval of the entities that have the authority to allow it. Let's work on...

What originally started as an interesting and informative post, albeit a personal perspective sharing information to support that perspective and create open dialogue, has now gone completely off the rails. This is definitely not the Walton County I once knew and, frankly, it isn't just about...

mputnal, the math has never been in BPOs favor and the people have BEEN complaining. That isn't new. Based on your statement, I guess you believe that the beach is our only resource in Walton County. That's a sad perspective. Does the Bay count? Do the forests count? Does farmland or...

This year, the 3 locations (Inlet, Ed Walline, Grayton Beach) had a pilot program. It doesn't eliminate vending, but it does make it first come, first serve. My understanding is that next year, all of the regional accesses will have a managed vendor program. Of course, I tend to be hopeful...

I was just curious. No harm, no foul. And, yeah, "every single one" is a real stretch!

I'm not in a war with the county. Why would you come to that conclusion just because I think people are capable of better behavior? Granted some people require more "motivation" than others. I actually participate regularly to try to understand and improve issues in the county.

Behaviors CAN change and will if the County makes well thought out decisions about beach use and then ENFORCES them. I cannot believe the number of times, people use the excuse that you can't change people's behavior. Yes, you can. Most people will cooperate if they just understand the rules...

I intended to be done with this thread, but I'd like to respond to your post, Dave. The following is my opinion only. 1. I think your support to prevent offshore drilling in Forida's water is admirable and very few would disagree with your position. Likewise with monster vacation rentals...

@mputnal, there are 1194 parcels that are the subject of CU if I recall correctly. There are upwards of 4,000 real people who either have ownership and/or beach rights through an HOA, divided interest, individual ownership, or other legal means that give them the right to use whichever parcel(s)...

I am baffled mputnal. With the exception of the signage, you can absolutely do what is in your quote above and the signage might very well go away with some changes. I don't know ANYONE who likes signs on the beach itself. I find several things interesting about this whole mess: 1) Virtually...

Sounds like the end of the road on this discussion. Sad. It looked so promising at one point.

Improved collections may be part of it and rising rental prices contribute, too.

I suspect, but don't know for sure, that this applies to things like the multi-use path, restrooms, parking improvements, access improvements (walkovers, benches, flags, showers, etc.). Basically anything having to do with actual physical/structural amenities that allow tourists to enjoy the...

I'm a bit suspicious that the over the top verbiage and description of life's travails indicate that beachfront owner is a rogue with an ax to grind.:rolleyes::doh::dunno::floor:

Maybe because the scenario isn't the doom and gloom that some predict? What gets written about on social media is the worst case and the places where conflict arises. It would be really interesting to know how much ACTUAL conflict there is instead of just what the fear mongers have been/are...