Discussion in 'Events and Activities' started by kurt, Feb 13, 2010.
Ha! I see me! I hate crowds but this is important enough that I came out anyway.
Gidget your pictures are so cool. Thanks for always posting something that makes one smile!!!!!
One More Reason
One More Reason Oil Spills Are Bad: Surface Cleanup can Make it Worse for Fish Below
by Michael Graham Richard, Ottawa, Canada on 04.13.09
Travel & Nature
oil spill cleanup
Out of Sight, Out of Mind, Right?
A study published in Environmental Toxicology and Chemistry points to something pretty shocking: One of the usual methods of cleaning up an oil spill can help save birds and marine animals on the surface of the water, but it makes things worse for life below. The culprits are chemical dispersing agents that are used to make the oil "bead up into tiny droplets that can mix into the water and disperse into deeper layers. Underwater currents can then theoretically dilute the oil and its risk to the environment."
But while these detergent-based chemicals might look like they make a big difference to use, looking at the scene from above the water, they can apparently cause lots of harm to fish.
From Discovery News:
Dispersion spares surface-dwelling animals, such as birds and otters. But as oil drifts downward, it falls on fish and on the eggs that are stuck to surfaces or buried in the sediment.
To find out just how dangerous dispersed oil might be to fish, Hodson and colleagues performed a series of laboratory experiments with beakers that were meant to simulate contaminated lakes. In all of the beakers, the scientists mixed water with diesel oil, then added newly hatched trout embryos. In some beakers, the scientists added a dispersing agent. [...]
Exposure to dispersed oil doesn't kill a lot of fish, Hodson added. Instead, it either kills eggs before they hatch or leads to damage or deformities in juvenile fish. Compared to the horrifying appearance of oil-drenched birds on beaches, it can be hard to catch the attention of the public -- or even of cleanup managers -- with such subtle and hidden health effects.
"What he's saying, and he's correct, is that it could be way more fish fingerlings or eggs that are impacted than you'd ever impact birds," Kinner said. "It kind of adds fuel to the discussion."
Watch out for protesters. One rammed our table at the Seaside Farmer's Market yesterday with his hover round.
Thanks for posting this. I had wondered about this more than once when listening to news reports of oil spill "cleanups".
Dave vs Sarah Palin
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I found this very interesting too. I think you could use this to compare with many things.....that by doing what seems the right thing for man and animal most often turns out to harm or kill so many more. Reminds me of war.
I really learned a lot from McLain's talk at the forum. He is very well informed on oil drilling, technology, clean-ups, and the reality of the situation versus what is promised. He is 100% against this drilling proposal because he knows just what the result will be.
And he's not some tree hugger - he's a consultant who literally TAUGHT the oil companies how to manage and clean-up their spills. The man who says he still has oil under his fingernails from the last spill he worked on because you can't ever really clean it up says it will be an environmental and economic disaster, I listen to him.
To Dave and all the others who helped organize 2/13, profound and sincere thanks.
Now, with SB 2622 in the works, what does Hands have in mind for the next steps?
I've already written Sen. Gaetz, Rep. Coley, and Gov. Crist and strongly urge everyone else to do the same.
I'm equally sure there's much, much more to be done.
Wait and see who votes for oil and who votes for Florida
It is clear the Senate and House is determined to push this through this session. The Senate just filed a companion bill that would allow for drilling. They kept saying there would be no movement this year in order to lull us into a trance. I felt this was a smokescreen from the start. That is why I chose Feb 13 to do HANDS to keep the attention on the issue and keep pressure on the Legislators who are running for office this election year.
They know now is probably the only opportunity for this to pass because it is likely the overall climate will become less favorable because of growing negative sentiment on drilling in Florida. We will plan another huge HANDS event at a later date with warm weather when many more thousands of people will be on the beaches. I think that is the last thing they would want; especially in an election year.
The main focus now is to encourage every person you know in Florida to write our Policy Makers in Tallahassee. This is already happening all over the State. They are hearing us but I fear they are ignoring us. I will be posting on the Hands Site a list of those who voted for OIL and those who voted for Florida in the House bill last summer and the "Memorial resolution recently passed regarding lifting the Federal Ban". I am working on a website redesign now.
Right now, we need to hammer on Don Gaetz's, Marti Coley's and Jimmy Patronis's door every day with emails and phone calls. I don't believe any of Don Gaetz's earlier statements saying he won't vote for oil if it affects the military mission. The Base commander of Eglin came out and said it would affect the mission and Don still said he was not convinced. Basically Marti Coley and Patronis parrot what Don says about the military with little consideration for our tourism and coastline and waterways. I have hope for Jimmy Patronis though. He is a good guy with solid roots in our coastal economy and beaches. Hope springs eternal. I don't disagree with all of Gaetz's initiatives, in fact I have never had reason to think negatively about him until I found him clearly on the wrong side of this issue. As our Coastal Senator I believe he should come out strongly against oil drilling as a protector of our coastal interests. This really should be a no brainer for him in my opinion. I shake my head every day in disbelief.
I would not be surprised if there are some heavy back room negotiations going on with the military otherwise this "disclaimer" would not be repeated over and over by Gaetz and company. I would not be surprised if some announcement came out some time soon that will state a deal has been struck with the military giving an "out" for our local politicians. They will be able to say "we saved the military mission so let's drill baby drill!
The truth is his son his son, Matt Gaetz who is running for District 4 House has received thousands of dollars from the very interests that are lobbying to lift the oil drilling ban in our waters. Jeb Bush's endorsement of Matt is lockstep with this notion as well. Would it surprise anyone if Jeb's brother was one of the anonymous Texas oil interests behind all this? I would find it very odd if Father Gaetz does not vote with his son on this issue. But again, hope springs eternal. Don Gaetz has received little on no contributions from the oil interests but his net worth is $22 million so I doubt he needs it.
The first time I spoke with Don Gaetz about this was when he called me on my cel phone 3 hours after I posted on SoWal what I felt to be true that he was in support of oil. He was very upset that I "mischaracterized" his position. I retracted the statement and he sent me his position on oil drilling at the time. (Read his written response posted in the original thread I started on HANDS on October 2 2009.) Based on his reaction in the call, I knew I was on to something. His carefully worded response cemented my belief that all concerned would have been happy for this issue to continue flying under Floridian's radar. Well, we changed all that didn't we? After thousands of Floridian's on 80 beaches statewide joined hands everybody is talking about oil. And now that oil is on the lips of Floridian's, they don't like the taste of it. And with every call and email to our Legislators they are being heard.
Senator's and House Members and Governor Christ? If you can hear me: We will never let Florida forget who sold out our beautiful treasured coastline and waterways. We will never forget. Are you listening now?
Yes, in answer to your question, there is much, much more to be done. Aside from calling and writing your Senators, House members and Governor, Now, we just need to sit back and watch and wait and see which Senators and House Members vote for oil and which ones vote for Florida. Florida's leaders, flush with Oil Lobby contributions, we will see just who sells out our coastal legacy.
We may be the last generation of Floridians who remember an unbroken horizon free of oil rigs. We may be the last generation to breath clean air free of diesel fuel from increased traffic from tankers and crew boats. We may be the last generation of Floridians who remember pristine white beaches free of oil from busted pipelines and rigs. No Senators, House Members and Governor Christ we will never forget and I promise, those who vote for oil instead of Florida vote in peril of their political futures in Florida. That's a promise from this generation of Floridians.
Beautifully put, Dave. I think you may need to consider going into politics, sir!
Excellent post Dave - I have moved it to start a new thread for discussion of phase 2 and beyond:
We'll keep this one open for any more photos, stories, or discussion about the first Hands Across The Sand event.
Rita is spreading the message via Facebook on her farm. No drilling done in flowers! Very creative.
Dave on CNN
Just saw Dave being interviewed on CNN regarding his anti-drilling work. There was video of SoWallers holding hands at the beach.
Florida's Gulf Coast keeping a close eye on creeping oil slick - CNN.com
"You know, there are a lot of people here that don't even know about the damn spill. Have you seen or smelled any oil in the air? This happened 2x in a 2 years to our bay. YOu could smell the oil everywhere it was really awful. But this spill is historic."
I just received this email from a friend in California. I hope "Hands across the Sand" goes National because it looks like these spills are showing up everywhere since this one has gotten so much attention. Maybe once this goes to a more National level people will realize that oil and water do not mix!
I had dinner with a family member the other day and we were discussing the spill. His defense of why we need to keep drilling was that our beaches have been screwed up for 50 years so what's the big deal. Sadly, I am afraid that many that don't use the coastline lose sight of how valuable it is outside of just playing on the beach. Our only hope is educating the public on the tragic effects this spill could have on the entire Gulf Coast. I begin to believe until it becomes personal people just don't seem to care.
Bobby, I think you are unfortunately right. The sad thing is that people don't even realize how personal it is...we are all connected--what affects the eco-system of the ocean, affects everyone of us...it's the Circle of Life.
A lot of people don't realize just how pristine and gorgeous our beaches are - they think they are like other beaches they have visited. Other beaches, even other famous or "blue wave" beaches just can't compare.
HATS 2 - June 26 at noon
Let's start planning for another bigger better Hands Across the (most utterly wonderful beautiful) Sand on June 26.
So is it official? June 26? Is it turning into a nationwide campaign that includes CA? Should also include VA! I'm all for NO DRILLING OFF OUR SHORES. PERIOD.
Thanks for any updates and info.
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