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dogflyguy

Beach Lover
Sep 24, 2007
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Im sure most of you heard the walton commisioner's decided to have another look at the spraying of south walton and turned it down again 2 to 1 but im afraid it's going to get harder for them to keep that hard line unless they come up with another way to get rid of the dogfly's their getting lots of calls from angry folks (so i heard).
 

tuck

Beach Lover
Dec 17, 2005
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Im sure most of you heard the walton commisioner's decided to have another look at the spraying of south walton and turned it down again 2 to 1 but im afraid it's going to get harder for them to keep that hard line unless they come up with another way to get rid of the dogfly's their getting lots of calls from angry folks (so i heard).

can you give any details as to the meeting last night, I was not able to attend as I am out of town. Are the dog flys' still at the beach?
 

dogflyguy

Beach Lover
Sep 24, 2007
82
6
Sorry i didn't go to the meeting, just heard about some of it from the boss who did go. Also you can see a brief vidio on it from WJHG7 just type that in and you can get panama's local 7 tv then clk on the link walton county controversy.

Yeah your right skunk the dogfly's will probably be out in droves with this cold front and we have thunderbeach motorcycle rally this wkend ,but if it is cool ill have my leathers on that's one thing them dang!!!! fly's cant bite through LOL
 

Jdarg

SoWal Expert
Feb 15, 2005
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Either dog flies don't find me tasty, or I have been in the wrong (I guess right) places, but the dog flies have only bothered me 2 days this whole year, and even then, it wasn't a big deal, just a few flies. Where are they? :dunno:
 

dogflyguy

Beach Lover
Sep 24, 2007
82
6
Im not sure about walton county but panama city beach has had 8 to 10 counts , gulf county really bad at 20 to 25 and allenton in bay county around 10 .

those counts mean how many land on you in a minute we are required to have at least 3 to spray
 

fisher

Beach Fanatic
Sep 19, 2005
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I'd ask, Who's idea was it to spray us and our environment with poisons which kill small animals on contact, without even warning people that they were being sprayed. Two weeks ago, I watched a helicopter fly in circles around us at Pier Park, spraying poisons. There was no warning that I was going to be sprayed. Even cans of Off have warning labels, but they were spraying poisons which kill, not repel, and we received no warning. The same thing was happening in SoWal -- no warnings whatsoever. My two problems with the spraying are 1) I should have the choice to spray myself with insect repellent, not to be sprayed with poisons by our gov't. Sounds too much like Hitler's camps to me. 2) Spraying to kill all animals small as or smaller than a Stable (Dog) Fly on contact is having no respect for the hidden treasures which animals provide. There is much more to life than most care to look at.

I didn't start the end of the spraying, but I would be proud to stand up beside the caring people who did. :clap: If you don't like the Dog Flies on the few days when they come are blown down, wear clothes. Clothing will not keep the animals from dying or me from ingesting it, but you can certainly control them from landing on yourself.


Amen!!!!!!

Please send a message to each of the county commissioners thanking them for their vote to end the spraying.
 

fisher

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Sep 19, 2005
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Yes, you are correct -- you need to make sure your accusations are researched and correct. If you would have done so, you would know that the Naled was not researched as much as possible by scientists.

For the other question, yes, we knew that would be the case, and yes, it was investigated.

Thank you for your concern. Now go stock up on some DEET, and spray your self real good.

Dibrom or Naled is very toxic. I would rather get bitten 1000 times by dog flies than inhale on part per billion of Dibrom. Below is an excerpt regarding the toxicity of Dibrom (Naled)

From Cornell University-

INTRODUCTION
Naled is a fast acting, non-systemic contact and stomach poison in insects and mites (2). It is used as a short-term fumigant to control agricultural pests on ornamentals in greenhouses, animal and poultry houses, kennels and food processing plants (1, 6). Liquid formulations can be applied to greenhouse heating pipes to kill insects by vapor action. Naled is also used for municipal and other large area mosquito control programs (3). It has been used by veterinarians to kill parasitic worms (other than tapeworms) in dogs (6). Naled is available in dust, emulsion concentrate, liquid and ULV formulations (3).
Naled is one of a class of insecticides referred to as organophosphates. These chemicals act by interfering with the activities of cholinesterase, an enzyme that is essential for the proper working of the nervous systems of both humans and insects. Please refer to the Toxicology Information Brief on cholinesterase-inhibition for a more detailed description of this topic.
TOXICOLOGICAL EFFECTS
ACUTE TOXICITY
Naled is moderately to highly toxic by ingestion, inhalation and dermal adsorption. Vapors or fumes of naled are corrosive to the mucous membranes lining the mouth, throat and lungs, and inhalation may cause severe irritation (9). A sensation of tightness in the chest and coughing are commonly experienced after inhalation (14). As with all organophosphates, naled is readily absorbed through the skin. Skin which has come in contact with this material should be washed immediately with soap and water and all contaminated clothing should be removed. Persons with respiratory ailments, recent exposure to cholinesterase inhibitors, impaired cholinesterase production, or with liver malfunction may be at increased risk from exposure to naled. High environmental temperatures or exposure of naled to visible or UV light may enhance its toxicity (9).
The organophosphate insecticides are cholinesterase inhibitors. They are highly toxic by all routes of exposure. When inhaled, the first effects are usually respiratory and may include bloody or runny nose, coughing, chest discomfort, difficult or short breath, and wheezing due to constriction or excess fluid in the bronchial tubes. Skin contact with organophosphates may cause localized sweating and involuntary muscle contractions. Eye contact will cause pain, bleeding, tears, pupil constriction, and blurred vision. Following exposure by any route, other systemic effects may begin within a few minutes or be delayed for up to 12 hours. These may include pallor, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal cramps, headache, dizziness, eye pain, blurred vision, constriction or dilation of the eye pupils, tears, salivation, sweating, and confusion. Severe poisoning will affect the central nervous system, producing incoordination, slurred speech, loss of reflexes, weakness, fatigue, involuntary muscle contractions, twitching, tremors of the tongue or eyelids, and eventually paralysis of the body extremities and the respiratory muscles. In severe cases there may also be involuntary defecation or urination, psychosis, irregular heart beats, unconsciousness, convulsions and coma. Death may be caused by respiratory failure or cardiac arrest (9).
Some organophosphates may cause delayed symptoms beginning 1 to 4 weeks after an acute exposure which may or may not have produced more immediate symptoms. In such cases, numbness, tingling, weakness and cramping may appear in the lower limbs and progress to incoordination and paralysis. Improvement may occur over months or years, but some residual impairment may remain in some cases (9).
Naled may cause dermatitis (skin rashes) and skin sensitization (allergies) (2, 6). It is corrosive to the skin and eyes and may cause permanent damage (3). An aerial applicator developed contact dermatitis after using Dibrom. The exposed area became red and felt burned. Later, water filled blisters formed. They became itchy and dry, then flaked off (ACGIH TLVS 4th Ed. & Supplement. 1980).
CHRONIC TOXICITY
Repeated or prolonged exposure to organophosphates may result in the same effects as acute exposure including the delayed symptoms. Other effects reported in workers repeatedly exposed include impaired memory and concentration, disorientation, severe depressions, irritability, confusion, headache, speech difficulties, delayed reaction times, nightmares, sleepwalking and drowsiness or insomnia. An influenza-like condition with headache, nausea, weakness, loss of appetite, and malaise has also been reported (9).
 

fisher

Beach Fanatic
Sep 19, 2005
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I wasn't clear. (Imagine that?:blush:) Very few are specific between bug species; the Bayer products that kill bugs are safe for humans and pets (mammals.)

Hah. Safe products from Bayer. All Bayer is interested in is their bottom line. They could care less if they produce safe products. Bayer wants products that sell. And they will market these products to the bitter end.

Safe products. Hah. Tell that to all the victims of severe reactions (including death from rhabdomyolosis and liver failure) to the Bayer anti cholesterol drug Baycol that was pulled from the market by the FDA due to so many deaths and disabilities caused by this SAFE product from Bayer.

Safe products my rear end. Bayer could care less the long term effects Dibrom has on people as long as it is benefiting the bottom line. Dibrom is extremely toxic. Do you really believe a pesticide as toxic as Dibrom is safe for any living thing.

See my previous post
 

florida girl

Beach Fanatic
Feb 3, 2006
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Santa Rosa Beach
I would rather get bitten 1000 times by dog flies than inhale on part per billion of Dibrom.

I didn't read anywhere concerning dosage amounts specified for the results given, nor results for what the plane is actually doing, in the amount and dissipation rate, or evidence of harm as a result of the spraying. Nor did I read an alternative given to resolve the problem, instead of ignoring it. To say the problem isn't there, is not feasible.
I don't see either that you have actually experienced being bitten 1000 times!??
 
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