For you Confederate flag lovers, add this one to your collection of flags representing bigotry and discrimination.
Petition to Ban Confederate Flag from Walton County Courthouse
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The anti-confederate flag reactionaries are nothing more than elitist who believe they can fix all social and political problems with their anti-conservative ideals (it is not so much about being liberal as it is anti-conservative). Happy Camper and Danny Glidewell seem to be the only true historians regarding the civil war. Again and again and again the civil war was about money. Most wars are about money, land or religion. The confederate flag is a memorial to those who fought for each other and their land. Leaders on both sides had to manipulate their soldiers to give their life for the "right" cause. Think about it. If you were a leader how would you motivate 99.9% of your soldiers who never owned a plantation or a slave? This is where education has failed us because post war history books were not accurate for obvious reasons.
It is amazing to me how human behavior is so intolerant. I am not a conservative or liberal but most people tend to migrate to one or the other end of the socio-political spectrum. We will not correct racism with taking down the confederate flag or disrespecting Southern Culture. All you will do is inspire division. If you want to disrespect the Southern Soldier by removing the confederate flag then go for it and sign the petition. If you want to reduce violence and racism then there are better things for you do do with your time.
It is amazing to me how human behavior is so intolerant. I am not a conservative or liberal but most people tend to migrate to one or the other end of the socio-political spectrum. We will not correct racism with taking down the confederate flag or disrespecting Southern Culture. All you will do is inspire division. If you want to disrespect the Southern Soldier by removing the confederate flag then go for it and sign the petition. If you want to reduce violence and racism then there are better things for you do do with your time.
Hypocrisy at it's finest. Many of those who claim the flag is just a symbol and it's removal will have zero effect are the same ones pushing for the Ten Commandments be posted in schools and government spaces because it will have some magical effect. Leave public spaces neutral!
Very well written and to the point, mputnal3. As far as keeping public spaces neutral, that has not been the case for over 250 years yet now we have a bunch of yahoos who want to change our former way of life to their liking. Neither side is absolutely correct.
There is nothing magical about removing the confederate flag to correct something wrong. We humans generally try to do the right thing. If removing the confederate flag would somehow delete racism then that would be the right thing but it won't. It does not matter whether you are from the North or the South or from America or another country. All the stuff about who is right and who is wrong is just divisiveness that is utilized by our leaders (usually very educated) to motivate us to die for the right cause. That is hypocrisy!
Take away the overwhelming evidence of racism and defense of slavery and explain why we should display a flag on public property that represents an act of treason against our government?
And a bunch of rednecks who romanticize about the good old plantation days of the black man in bondage and servitude want to force the descendants of those people to be constantly reminded of that dark chapter every time they visit the court house or other public space.
The Civil War was fought because of secession. The underlying reason, for the Confederacy wanting to secede from the Union, was they could not accept the abolition of slavery. One of the underlying reason for that does get into the financial reasons that the southern plantation owners did not think they could produce a sufficient profit if they didn't use slavery as their "engine" of commerce. But the declaration they put in their Cornerstone wasn't about economics; it was about their fundamental belief that the Negro was inferior and deserved to be a slave.
The Cornerstone of the Confederacy is about as far away as you can get from "All men are created equal and they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, and that among them are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Treason is a strong word, but when you forcibly rebel against the prime principle upon which this country was founded, I guess it fits.
The Cornerstone of the Confederacy is about as far away as you can get from "All men are created equal and they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, and that among them are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Treason is a strong word, but when you forcibly rebel against the prime principle upon which this country was founded, I guess it fits.
For you Confederate flag lovers, add this one to your collection of flags representing bigotry and discrimination.
Poppy, most of the time you are reasonable even if I disagree. But every once in a while you go over the top and this post is one of those times. Have awful things been done in the name of Christ? Yes, that could be said for just about any institution you can think of. But the teachings of Christ have absolutely nothing to do with bigotry or discrimination, in fact just the opposite. The core teaching of the Christian faith is to love God first and then love your neighbor as yourself. Or, said another way, do unto others as you would have them do unto you. The world would be a vastly better place if we all lived by those simple rules.
Definitely I have no respect for these dead ****ers and the people who want to honor them.