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John G

Beach Fanatic
Jul 16, 2014
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"Private beach" SoWal's newest Oxymoron.

Dave, please be sure to march your troops right in front of Andante Codos in the seacreast area.

Actually, be sure to put that Private Beach on your dehydrate stops and sit and "rest".

That property is private.

They have their WCSO mandated SOP ready for you.

Did I fail to mention that there are several units in that Condo privately managed by our Sheriff's wife?

Check it out.

While you cause may have some merit, your knowledge, or acceptance of facts, is questionable.

WHY are these chains and fences and barriers being erected?

You need to learn the Walton County 2 step to understand.

I'm not you enemy. I have an annual pass to FL State Parks, I don't want developments on " our" lakes.

You have had a sip of Adkinson cool aid.

Spit it out.
 

Dave Rauschkolb

Beach Fanatic
Jul 13, 2005
1,006
790
Santa Rosa Beach
Dave, please be sure to march your troops right in front of Andante Codos in the seacreast area.

Actually, be sure to put that Private Beach on your dehydrate stops and sit and "rest".

That property is private.

They have their WCSO mandated SOP ready for you.

Did I fail to mention that there are several units in that Condo privately managed by our Sheriff's wife?

Check it out.

While you cause may have some merit, your knowledge, or acceptance of facts, is questionable.

WHY are these chains and fences and barriers being erected?

You need to learn the Walton County 2 step to understand.

I'm not you enemy. I have an annual pass to FL State Parks, I don't want developments on " our" lakes.

You have had a sip of Adkinson cool aid.

Spit it out.



Love ya John. Whoever your are.
 

BlueMtnBeachVagrant

Beach Fanatic
Jun 20, 2005
1,305
386
Dave, where's your buddy, Bobby J? I miss the good old days when you twin surfer dudes had all the answers and ganged up on me.

Simply put, you guys make more money the more crowded the beach is. And now you want to steal my private property and hand it over to the public in the guise of Rauschkolb sainthood. And this would result in even more people at the beach....nevermind the lack of parking or facilities.

We all can't make money marketing Mai Tais to the masses (sound familiar?). And even if I could, I certainly wouldn't want to simply confiscate your property to aid my business growth. I couldn't sleep at night. But that's just me.

Dave, you and yours are one of main the reasons all the signs exist now. And now you want to be the hero that tries to have them taken down. I can assure you the no trespassing signs will stay - as much as I don't like them myself, the signs are required by law and protected by law.

And that's absolutely why the vote for the modified ordinance got postponed. The county knows the "boundary" of their actions and are regrouping to see if they really should consider crossing that line which will result in plenty of law suits and plenty of egg on the BCC.

I just love the way you try to bring our community together....tearing apart the very same private gulf front property owners and guests who supported your business years and years ago when there wasn't all the off beach properties that there are today.

How do you spell pick it?
 

Truman

Beach Fanatic
Apr 3, 2009
650
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@BlueMtnBeachVagrant - why don't you want to share the beach? Why do some beachfront owners want to stop us all from using the beach?

Dave is doing what he thinks is right and I appreciate it. But you're getting a bit personal - let's make the case about the issue, not personal.
 

John G

Beach Fanatic
Jul 16, 2014
1,803
553
Personal? Why wouldn't it be personal?

You have a wealthy Community Organizer rallying people to knowingly and willingly Trespass on someone's Private Property!

What's not personal about that?
 

Jenksy

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Oct 25, 2012
799
617
Personal? Why wouldn't it be personal?

You have a wealthy Community Organizer rallying people to knowingly and willingly Trespass on someone's Private Property!

What's not personal about that?

:nono:
 

Dave Rauschkolb

Beach Fanatic
Jul 13, 2005
1,006
790
Santa Rosa Beach
Stand Your Sand Day | Saturday, June 4, 8:30am

This South Walton event was announced today by SoWal local Dave Rauschkolb on Facebook.

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Walk the 10 miles of South Walton's Beaches for the Customary Use of OUR BEACHES for all. Let no barriers or signs impede us on our beaches on this day or ever. "This sand is your sand, this sand is our sand".

Join together for our sand and walk the walk for OUR beaches.

On June 4th, 2016 the citizens of America, Florida and South Walton County will gather at west and east ends of SoWalBeaches and meet in Grayton Beach State Park. This, to claim the Beaches of South Walton from the dune line to the water line for the Customary Use for all to fairly and equitably use and enjoy for eternity. We will traverse and ignore any and all barriers, signs, ropes and chains. We reserve the right to stop for a rest to enjoy the view at any point along the way

We will not litter. We will behave responsably and we will leave only our footprints. We will be respectful of beachfront homeowners and the Walton County Beach Activities ordinance but will use and enjoy the beaches as we have for centuries. This is the way it has been, this is the way it will be.

To stay hydrated water stations will be placed at marked beach accesses along the way. Wear appropriate sunscreen, headwear and clothing for protection from the sun.

June 4 is also National Trails Day

FB event page | for updates on event, comments, etc

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Stand your Sand and use your beach.

Ultimately folks this private beach vs customary use issue will all be settled in Court. The private homeowners are claiming "Private Beach" and the Customary Use regular folks are claiming Customary Use.

On June 4th I would imagine the regular folks are going to use the beach as they have customarily used since humans walked upright. The thing is, the beachfront homeowners believe that if they claim private and put out signs long enough it will become the law of the sand.

Stand Your Sand is all about exercising your rightful and customary use of the beach. So I say to regular folks go use the beach as you always have and see what happens in court. That is all.

STAND YOUR SAND, LOVE YOUR LAKES, LOVE YOUR PARKS
https://www.facebook.com/events/1618617238429200/
 

JBBeached

Beach Comber
Jun 11, 2008
21
27
@BlueMtnBeachVagrant - why don't you want to share the beach? Why do some beachfront owners want to stop us all from using the beach?

Not all beachfront owners want to stop people from using the beach. I want people to show some respect for my property. I don't want the masses sitting on my walkover to take pictures (happens daily during season), I don't want people walking up next to the dune that is trying to build (if there is an incline, stay off of it), I don't want people tearing up the sand fence to get to their toy (Frisbee, ball, kite, etc.) that has blown into my yard (move further away so it doesn't blow into my yard), I don't want people sitting on the incline right up on the dune. Go sit on the flat part of the beach or down by the water. I don't want to hear your loud music when I'm sitting on my deck. I don't want to hear all the foul language. I'm tired of picking up the trash left behind. There are a multitude of things that happen daily that nobody takes into consideration. Spend a day watching the things that people do in front of some of the beachfront houses. People will do things "at the beach" that they would never do at their own home and think because they are "at the beach" that it's okay.

I'm tired of the vendors constantly putting up umbrellas in front of my house, having weddings in front of my house (and blocking the driveway) and having bonfires in front of the house. Vendors should not be making money while using my property. Add to all of the this the total lack of enforcing any rules. We have rules but nobody enforces them. Very frustrating.
 

Teresa

SoWal Guide
Staff member
Nov 15, 2004
30,250
9,279
South Walton, FL
sowal.com
UPDATED June 4 Events

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Stand Your Sand, Love Your Lakes, Love Your Parks!


STAND YOUR SAND! (Parks open at 8:00, walk starts at 8:15)
Won't you join together on June 4th for Stand Your Sand and have a walk on the beach? Join hands and walk 10 miles from the east and 10 miles from the west and enjoy South Walton's Beaches to establish our customary use for all. If you don't want to walk 10 miles you can join in at any point along the way. Suggested starting point at Topsail State Park from the west and Camp Helen State Park on the east at 8:15 a.m.. Let no barriers or signs impede us on our beaches on this day or ever. This, to claim the Beaches of South Walton from the dune line to the water line for the customary use for all to fairly and equitably use and enjoy for eternity. "This sand is your sand, this sand is our sand"

LOVE YOUR LAKES!
Celebrate and enjoy our fragile Coastal Dune Lakes along the way and join up from the east and the west at Grayton Beach for Coastal Dune Lakes Day! Walton County's Coastal Dune Lake Advisory Board (CDLAB) is hosting a celebration of South Walton area coastal dune lakes on Saturday, June 4, 2016. The event will be held at Grayton Beach State park from 10:00 a.m. til 3:00 p.m. Celebrate Coastal Dune Lake Day at Grayton Beach State Park Jun 4 | SoWal.com - Insider's Guide for South Walton Beaches & Scenic 30A.

LOVE YOUR PARKS!
Celebrate and support your State Parks for the treasures they are. We are so fortunate to have so many amazing State Parks along South Walton's beaches. Show your support for your beach Parks on June 4th and pay the entrance fees that keep them thriving. Start your walk at Topsail or Camp Helen State Parks and finish at Grayton Beach State Park

Join hands for our sand and walk the walk for OUR beaches.
Join hands to embrace and protect OUR fragile Dune Lakes.
Join hands to celebrate and support OUR State Parks.

On your walk in STAND YOUR SAND consider traversing and ignoring any and all barriers, signs, ropes and chains that are in violation to the Walton County Beach Activities ordinance "(Items left on the beach overnight will be discarded. (Ordinance 2013-04 Section 22-54) "Obstructions also include fences, ropes, chains, or signs unless properly permitted by county, state, and federal agencies as appropriate.".

Reserve the right to stop on any portion of the dry sand for a rest to stay properly hydrated to ensure good health and to enjoy the view. Please do not litter. Please behave responsably and leave only your footprints. Please be respectful of beachfront homeowners and avoid confrontations. Be respectful of the Walton County Beach Activities ordinance. Do use and enjoy the beaches as people have for centuries.

The walk on the beach is in no way an official event of any kind; It is only an idea. All people have the free will to choose to act on an idea or not. We all have the right to walk on the beach; no permit needed.

IMPORTANT: Please be aware and avoid any contact with post and roped off sea turtle nesting areas. Also near and within the State Park boundaries and inlet/outfalls avoid crossing or trampling posted and roped areas that provide barriers to protect nesting shorebirds and waterbirds.

Stay hydrated water stations will be placed at marked beach accesses along the way. Wear appropriate sunscreen, headwear and clothing for protection from the sun.

After the walk meet up at Grayton Beach State Park and celebrate our beaches, State Parks and coastal dune lakes for COASTAL DUNE LAKE DAY! Celebrate Coastal Dune Lake Day at Grayton Beach State Park Jun 4 | SoWal.com - Insider's Guide for South Walton Beaches & Scenic 30A

June 4 is also National Trails Day

FB event page | for updates on event, comments, etc
 

Teresa

SoWal Guide
Staff member
Nov 15, 2004
30,250
9,279
South Walton, FL
sowal.com
Not all beachfront owners want to stop people from using the beach. I want people to show some respect for my property. I don't want the masses sitting on my walkover to take pictures (happens daily during season), I don't want people walking up next to the dune that is trying to build (if there is an incline, stay off of it), I don't want people tearing up the sand fence to get to their toy (Frisbee, ball, kite, etc.) that has blown into my yard (move further away so it doesn't blow into my yard), I don't want people sitting on the incline right up on the dune. Go sit on the flat part of the beach or down by the water. I don't want to hear your loud music when I'm sitting on my deck. I don't want to hear all the foul language. I'm tired of picking up the trash left behind. There are a multitude of things that happen daily that nobody takes into consideration. Spend a day watching the things that people do in front of some of the beachfront houses. People will do things "at the beach" that they would never do at their own home and think because they are "at the beach" that it's okay.

I'm tired of the vendors constantly putting up umbrellas in front of my house, having weddings in front of my house (and blocking the driveway) and having bonfires in front of the house. Vendors should not be making money while using my property. Add to all of the this the total lack of enforcing any rules. We have rules but nobody enforces them. Very frustrating.

All good points !!! I definitely agree that vendors or wedding events should not be allowed on any beach without proper permissions and permits. In an ideal world there would be absolutely NO chair/umbrella setups allowed anywhere on the beaches unless they are being used by someone - with the exception of resorts and large condos where you expect to have chairs available. I haven't heard issues of vendors setting up on private beaches (except where the homeowners invited them to do so). This issue is complicated with many sides and concerns.

Meanwhile, let's discuss local issues in the Local Govt & Groups forum. Many topics there with lots of info.
 
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