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  1. Misty

    County Sued By Beach Front Property Owners

    The same Law Firm representing the Goodwins have asked the N.C. Supreme Court to review a decision by the state Court of Appeals from late last year that laid out where the line for public and private meet. The unanimous three-judge decision upheld an Emerald Isle ordinance barring beachfront...
  2. Misty

    Who is this group? Anyone know?

    I'm in TOTAL agreement with you in regard to religion and politics! Religion has NO PLACE in government decision making. God doesn't get candidates elected, the people who live, work and play here do! As you said, our society has the right to worship (or NOT ) any God they choose but we DON'T...
  3. Bob Hudson

    Amending Ordinance to Ban Signs, Ropes, Fences on the Beach

    LETTER: Law on side of beachfront owners Posted Jun 19, 2016 at 1:00 AM Re: Story, June 16, “Walton votes to remove barriers from the beach” As in Destin, most beachfront property owners in Walton County have deeds showing they own to the mean high-water line, indicating their beach is...
  4. FactorFiction

    Amending Ordinance to Ban Signs, Ropes, Fences on the Beach

    The only statement that I am questioning is the requirement to produce an updated MHWL survey every single year for beachfront property right enforcement (assuming anything would be enforced). I have only seen the annual "requirement" stated on this site, but not in the Sheriff's SOP or any...
  5. jodiFL

    Amending Ordinance to Ban Signs, Ropes, Fences on the Beach

    The only way to determine the MHWL is by a topographical survey. They are usually only valid for a year because they are based on an 18 year average of the tides. Please dont make me go back and read the entire 161st. chapter of the Florida Statutes to find that paragraph.. LOL OOPS my bad that...
  6. John G

    Amending Ordinance to Ban Signs, Ropes, Fences on the Beach

    Once Again... WCSO SOP #15-004 VII. Enforcement Sec. A (5) "The property boundaries of the upland owners property are adequately marked on the ground indicating the boundary between the mean-high water line and their upland property." Really folks, you can't make this stuff up... If you...
  7. Dave Rauschkolb

    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    "A band of brigands who believe it’s up to them to decide what is legal and what is not." I just had to look it up. Oh brother.
  8. justhavinfun

    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    Yesterday I had the experience of being told the spot we picked for our beach chairs was on "Private Property". This at the Eastern Lake Beach area so you can draw your own conclusions where we were. I looked the gent straight in the eyes and said "Fine" and I will move to the high water line...
  9. Dave Rauschkolb

    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    As I said before this will be settled in the courts. It is my hope the Walton County Commissioners will not be intimidated by Beach Front Homeowners litigation. Clearly in the Destin example they buckled, waffled and folded; shame on every one of them. The Tona vs Rama case provides all is...
  10. Bob Hudson

    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    This Letter To the Editor appears in this weeks DeFuniak Herald Editor, On May 26, 2015, Walton County Sheriff Mike Adkinsonimplemented a Standard Operating Procedure (#15-004) “to provide direction to members when answering calls for service related to allege trespassing on private property...
  11. Dave Rauschkolb

    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    Porkchop, you are hilarious and brilliant. I have been very much enjoying your informed, articulate posts
  12. Porkchop

    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    TLDR: What's stopping the voters of this jurisdiction from putting a new tax—levied on beachfront property—onto the next ballot? -- John G's enlightened position—that the rights of private beach property holders should, in all instances, be respected and the letter of law enforced—has me...
  13. jjnole04

    Job Available Restoration Job at Deer Lake

    DIVISION OF RECREATION AND PARKS JOB OPPORTUNITY ANNOUNCEMENT OPEN COMPETITIVE DEER LAKE STATE PARK (WALTON COUNTY) PACK TEST REQUIREMENT CLASS TITLE: OPS Land Management Technician (woodsmen) POSITION NUMBER: 37970744 BASE SALARY: $13 per hour - 40 hour work week LOCATION: Deer Lake...
  14. JBBeached

    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    Well said.
  15. steel1man

    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    Agree, but why don t the owners just put up their Private Beach signs East to west along their southern property line aka MHWL. Then public would know they can't go north toward the residence.. End of problem.......
  16. FactorFiction

    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    Interestingly enough, "16 Beach Neighborhoods" are advertised by South Walton. In spite of the fact that they all boast the beautiful white sand, there are considerable differences that set them apart. One size really does NOT fit all on a number of controversial topics. Building dunes is...
  17. BlueMtnBeachVagrant

    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    Danny, just curious, has the operating procedure changed since you were "one of the those poor people"? In other words you couldn't make a determination then - but now a deputy can now make a determination today in an "obvious" situation as previously quoted and shown below? "If the alleged...
  18. BlueMtnBeachVagrant

    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    Danny, good news! After reading the WCSO SOP here on SoWal a little more closely, I won't ever have to be melodramatic again. ".....(NOTE: If the alleged trespasser is far SOP #: 15-004 Page 4 of 7 Effective Date: 05/26/2015 enough away from the wet sand where it is obvious to the officer...
  19. jkmason

    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    A little research revealed that back in 2006 several beach front owners in the Old Blue Mountain Beach subdivision filed suit against the developer, Blue Gulf Corporation, a longtime dissolved corporation. The suit was an effort to acquire quiet title to the beach areas south of their original...
  20. Teresa

    Market Days of South Walton at SWHS Apr 30

    Market Days of South Walton will take place on Saturday, Apr. 30 from 9am til 5pm at South Walton High School. Presented by Kathleen's Kottage, Hilltop Production Events, and H & M Event Rentals. Market Days is an outdoor market event that was previously scheduled for Easter weekend but...
  21. Misty

    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    ...Okaloosa and Walton Counties : You do not own the entire beach in front of your property. The base rule is that you own to the mean high water line (MHWL). That line is measured over an 18.6 year cycle and is fairly hard to determine on any given day. Both Okaloosa and Walton County Sheriffs...
  22. BlueMtnBeachVagrant

    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    ...a specific lawsuit establishing the extent and nature of customary use, the public is relegated back to the area below the mean high water line. There are other approaches that Florida and other state courts have considered in public access cases, but none of them have garnered general...
  23. steel1man

    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    jK next time ask them to show you annual survey, check date. The MUST show you to enforce...and FYI MUST be this years survey, they have to do it yearly. At least make them work for their privacy.
  24. jkmason

    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    Does anyone know if the wcso sop addresses the mean high tide water line and the right of the public to transit and set up on the beach below that line? My wife and I were booted off the beach at Sanctuary by the Sea. We were in our chairs about 10' from wet sand and probably 50-100' seaward...
  25. John G

    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    Yes, this is correct and it is also part of what I'm trying to get folks eyes to see. A survey is Part of the WCSO SOP and must be included in the packet you give to them. That, along with clear, easy to read signs are also part of the requirement for a beach front property owner to receive...
  26. jodiFL

    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    According to Florida Statutes the Mean High Water Line (MHWL) can only be determined by a current topographical survey done by a registered surveyor. It varies by year because it is based on a 17 year average. Most topo surveys are only valid for a year. They are very costly and I am sure that...
  27. Misty

    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    ...mark is physical evidence of the general height reached by wave run up at recent high waters. It should not be confused with the mean high water line or mean higher high water line. I think the problem is that HWM has not been determined with any scientific studies ordered by the BCC...
  28. Mike Smith

    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    A thought and a question for the group... Question: Where is the "high water mark" on our beaches? Is it a fixed line or does it change with erosion/addition of the beach itself? From what I have read this seems to be surrounded by controversy. Thought: If the high water mark is "owned...
  29. Garner

    New Director of Walton TDC

    ...are not being privatized. Over the past three years, over 100 individual property owners have put up fences from the dune to the mean high water line accompanied by "no trespassing" signs. A few weeks ago, a gulf front owner called the sheriff's office because an elderly woman walked the...
  30. jodiFL

    Any truth to the rumor?

    From what I understand it is the PROPERTY OWNER that has to prove the MHWL with a CURRENT topographical survey.
  31. Jimmy T

    Any truth to the rumor?

    My understanding of the situation: Beaches move and so does the mean-high-water line. It's a real problem that the legal description of beachfront properties doesn't seem to change with respect to the mean high-water line, so beachfront property owners can claim trespassing and it would be up...
  32. ASH

    Any truth to the rumor?

    How does one get to Topsail Hill Preserve State Park from the East except to walk the beach at Stallworth? Are private land owners blocking access to a state park? Isn't the mean high water somewhere up in the dry sand for the most part? If I'm walking the beach down near or at the surf line...
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