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    Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

    That’s true, but that applies to any property no matter if it’s beach property or not. My point is, if you cite 16 examples you would think one would be relevant.
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    Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

    I use to post on this subject some, but we bought some property in Bay County, so we don't deal with private beaches anymore. I still own property in NoWal and SoWal so, I still follow the conversation. I looked up these cases. None of them have anything to do with a private beach front...
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    Mike Huckabee’s role in pushing controversial beach access law

    I don’t post much, but I do find it funny that someone would move to an area referred to as the redneck riviera, for I don’t know at least 60 years, but apparently doesn’t like rednecks.
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    Eastern Lake Outfall Parcel Purchase

    I have done the research and know the history of custom. I also know that the law evolves and you can not simply draw conclusions from history. I also know the Courts in the State of Florida have recognized customary use as a legal doctrine. I have said this entire discussion, that I don't...
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    Eastern Lake Outfall Parcel Purchase

    That's what I figured the same old rhetoric common law this and common law that. I know what the common law says about custom, but if you are so sure you know more than me, educate me, I'm always eager to learn. Do you have some secret source of law, is it Blackstone, Tiffanay of property...
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    Eastern Lake Outfall Parcel Purchase

    First of all it doesn't matter what I think or what you think, it matters what the court think. However, The Court in Tona Roma thought the use of the beach in Daytona was ancient or they would have found for the property owner. I believe the beach in Walton County has been used just as long...
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    Eastern Lake Outfall Parcel Purchase

    I can give my opinion abut how it applies, but that is all it is, unless they appoint me as Judge. Has the public used the beaches of Walton County for recreation since ancient times? I think so, I'm sure at least as long as the public in Daytona. Is that use reasonable? I think so, at least...
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    Eastern Lake Outfall Parcel Purchase

    Law is defined by precedent and statutes. Tona Roma is precedent. It is the law in Florida today, it may change and be more defined in the future, but it's all we can look to today. I do agree that the problem with Tona Roma is, it doesn't give you a clear picture of what evidence is required...
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    Eastern Lake Outfall Parcel Purchase

    I don't think that it is a partial answer. That is how the Court's in Florida have defined customary use. They have also stated that the right to use the land can be based on custom and that the right to exercise this use is superior to the fee title owner. I don't know what happened either...
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    Eastern Lake Outfall Parcel Purchase

    I'm not mixing anything, I'm simply quoting how the courts in Florida have defined customary use. I have read the case, the Trepanier case I cited was case where the trial court granted the county's motion for summary judgement and the appellate court reversed the trial court’s grant of...
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    Eastern Lake Outfall Parcel Purchase

    Does this answer your question Lucas Reynolds CUSTOM If the public has a right to drive and park on appellant's privately owned platted lots, it most likely will be through application of the law of "custom." Florida's Supreme Court first recognized the public's "customary" right to the use of...
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    Who is this group? Anyone know?

    I don't live there( I hope to one day). I have been a regular visitor all my life, and I care very deeply about customary use. I hope to continue to be able to visit the area and enjoy the beaches just as it has been my custom to do since I was born.
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    Who is this group? Anyone know?

    I just don't know of any other issue in this election that would cause someone to spend that much money to promote a candidate. However, I'm not a registered voter in Walton County, so there very well may be some other big money issue I'm unaware of. I do try to keep up with locale politics...
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    Who is this group? Anyone know?

    I don't agree with misty on everything she posts on here. However if you want to get down to the hay, the people that put the political mailings out are against customary use. (Stevie Wonder could see that) Misty is calling them out, and I'm all for it. If that is your position just say so...
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    Thanks to the Lifeguards

    I would like to say thank you to Kyle a lifeguard. He was working at the beach access between Watercoler and Seaside yesterday. My wife slipped coming down the steps and busted her but. We were both scared that she had really hurt herself. Kyle came up the stairs made sure Joy was o.k. and...
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    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    We primarily visit the Seagrove area beaches now, but I grew up going to Blue Mountain beach almost every weekend, so it is still important to me. However, I am concerned about all sowal beaches. No one has bothered us on the beach so far, but I think its coming soon. We use the beachwood...
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    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    That's not a deed. That is a page from a pleading in a civil action. The only legal description posted so far is in the platted subdivision, and it states the subdivision extends to the bluff line. I would just like to know what the original deed granting the property to the corporation says
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    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    Ok, thanks. I looked it up. I would like to see the deed that says the dissolved corporation owned below the dune line. I realize the complaint in the quiet title action says they owned it, but where is the deed to prove it.
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    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    What is instrument # 1011222 in the official records.
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    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    BMBV I don't really think that the County will sue all the owners. However if they wanted to, they would simply allege that all the beach in the county is so similar that it should be treated as one "beach". Then allege that the proposed use by the beachfront owners, restricting access to the...
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    Public vs Private Beach [threads merged]

    I'm with Danny, I live in Covington County, AL, but my family has resided in Walton County for five generations and I still own the family land there. I grew up going to blue mountain beach because that is where my mom grew up going. She went there and Grayton because that is where her dad...
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    Messina's at Gulf Place Shuts Doors

    I love the perfect pig and I'm a man with a healthy appetite. However, I wish it would stay in Seagrove.
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    Golf Carts on the Roads in SoWal

    I am a long time member of the Sowal website. I read every day and rarely post. I own property in Walton County and all my family is from Walton County. However, I do not live there. I do visit the area two to three times a month throughout the year. I am totally against golf carts on 30A...
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    Beach Erosion at Somerset Bridge Road Access

    We stayed at beachwood villas this weekend and noticed big chunks of black and red rocks in the water at the somerset road/beachwood villa beach access. My wife thinks that it is oil and I'm not sure. Does anyone know what these things are?
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    Cocoon's for Breakfast

    I eat breakfast at Cocoon's whenever I'm in Seagrove. They have very good sausage and biscuits. Give them a try.
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    VMU lot in Grayton for sale

    I mean Abor
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    VMU lot in Grayton for sale

    where is Astor Lane? I don't see it on a map.
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    Are there any good places to eat on Okaloosa Island?

    It has a pretty traditional menu fried shrimp, fish, softshell crab, oysters; Grilled or Blackend fish and shrimp; raw or steamed oysters; great gumbo. You can get dinners or sandwiches and if you have to choose between the fries and the rice, get the rice, its great.
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    Are there any good places to eat on Okaloosa Island?

    The High Tide is one of my favorite restaurants. Its kind of a dive but I still love it. Its right under the Brooks Bridge.
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    Where to dine for freshest, local seafood?

    I found the oyster place in Millville and it was wonderful. I now know why you were keeping it a secret. We also tried a place in Panama City called Gandys Oyster Bar and it was also excellent.
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    Looking to buy a condo in SoWal

    We've looked at Inlet Dunes and really like the complex and its proximity to the beach. However, it?s a little to far east for us. Oil or no oil, we are still actively looking.
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    Where to dine for freshest, local seafood?

    I'm going down to Seagrove tommorrow. Could you tell me if the oyster bar you are talking about starts with a Ge; a Ga; or Co. I've three in the area you are describing and would like to know which one you guys are dscribing, although I'm sure we will try all three.
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    Looking to buy a condo in SoWal

    We finally made time to look at some units this weekend. We have also stayed at Hidden Beach Villas twice this spring and really enjoyed it. We looked at two units at Beach Front II; one at hidden beach villas; and one at gulf place. We liked them all, but I think have narrowed our choice to...
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    Looking to buy a condo in SoWal

    I haven't been on in a while but thanks for the wonderful comments and advice. My wife and I did ride down to SoWal today from one end of 30A to the other. Then to Inlet beach and looked at a complex there called Inlet Sands. We liked the proximity to the beach but it seemed a little out of...
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    Looking to buy a condo in SoWal

    I see where a unit at Emerald Hills is selling for what looks like a good price. Can anyone tell me anything about this complex.
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    Looking to buy a condo in SoWal

    I’m familiar with beachside villas and would be interested in owning a unit there, but that is a little out of our price range. Thanks for the info. What do you think the right push and a real good price would be on the Seagrove highlands?
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    Looking to buy a condo in SoWal

    Thanks for the comments. We are very intrested in Hidden Beach Villas and Seagrove Highlands. We are not against a studio but we would like a full kitchen. I can't wait to get down there and actually veiw some of these units. Hopefully have our own little slice of paradise by the summer.
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    Looking to buy a condo in SoWal

    Thanks for the replies I just got back from looking around this weekend and Beachwood is another complex that caught our eye. I do like the fact that Gulf Place is very close to the water. However, a one bedroom there is probably out of our budget and the studios seem very small. I hope to...
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    Hi

    HI, I joined a while back and just thought I would say Hello. My wife and I visit the SoWal area almost every weekend. My family is from Walton Co. and, I have been visiting blue mountain beach since before there was a "SoWal". We both really love the area.
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    Looking to buy a condo in SoWal

    My Wife and I are looking to buy a condo in the Destin SoWal area. We plan to use it for our own purposes and rent it occasionally. Gulf Place, Hidden Beach Villas, Rollin Tide Villas, Village of Blue Mountain Beach and Seagrove Highlands are the ones we seem to be most interested in. We...
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