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Bob, I think you hit the nail squarely. The same people would be getting their folks elected in city govt just as they do at the county level. LVToo: "It would mean more taxes, at a mutually agreed upon level...." Just who would be doing the mutually agreeing on the taxes and the services...

Morality is about right and wrong. Morality’s insincere cousin is moralism, which grabs virtue off the shelf as needed.

Franky, you made it a lot further than I’d have expected.

Dawn, that you are offended does not make you right. And your moral superiority complex is showing. You are consistently partisan. Those who post on such blogs as this almost always are. Some are intellectually honest about it. Others less so. I'm libertarian philosophically, and I think a look...

This would be the same NY Governor who was in charge of results like these below, in contrast to the Governor of Fl and the results under his watch. Florida has about 3 million more people than New York, yet has suffered about 1/10th as many confirmed COVID-19 cases and about 1/13th as many...

More like the usual vacuousness from one of the morally superior philosopher kings who dominate this asylum for the terminally sanctimonious.

Consensus as defined by whom? And whether the 50% figure is on the money, so to speak, it is at least as relevant as your supposed consensus and likely much closer to reality.

No, it would not be difficult. And, like it or not, the Constitution guarantees certain rights which the BCC chose to ignore against the advice of its own counsel. Fact or Fiction has made some excellent points in the preceding posts today. If our local or state government chooses to ignore...

While one might wonder about you, based on many of your comments, this one re LLC's and "trusts" removes all doubt. Are you a charter member of the know nothings, or do you simply have nothing useful to do with your time? Pray tell us why how land is titled bears on this discussion. And for...

The law in CA is the same as in FL as respects public beach, i.e., effectively the wet sand in both states. It is access to that wet sand, not to any private dry sand, which is guaranteed in CA . The point of contention in this case in CA was whether the state may force a private landowner to...

The question of whether counties like Walton can establish customary use by ordinance rather than through a court action was litigated in federal court in Alford and the answer was that they could. It’s been a while since I read the opinion in that case, but I believe you will find that the...

The Miller Report is farcical, and I'm being as charitable as possible. And your ignorance or willful disregard of the law is tiresome. The mandated presumption of any judge hearing a CU suit MUST be that the allegation of CU is WRONG, and the burden of proof lies entirely with the county. The...

Delusional? You doing introspection for a change? Human right that has existed for centuries? Must be nice to be in possession of divine knowledge. I think it abundantly clear you neither know nor care what the law says. Ruining property values? Talk to the BCC and your buddies on that one...

Might I be so bold as to offer an olive branch to Dave and Daniel in pursuit of your hypothetical, Shannon? If you two guys and all your fellow travelers are so ready to provide assistance to affidavit availability, execution, collection, and delivery to the BCC, would it be too much to ask if...

It has been suggested by others on another similarly themed thread that opponents of CU, who by the way are the ones with the law on their side and who privately own their beachfront and want only to be left alone to quietly enjoy their lives without trespassers or thugs bothering them, with...

LVT, as a statistician, you’d come up a brick short of a hod based on that analysis. And unless the Lince’s purchased their home during the one year when CU was unilaterally and improperly imposed by the 4 Blind Mice, they did not purchase it as you aver. And if they did, I can only hope they...

Marlette will be the first to know if he has rectal polyps. He’ll see them under his direct gaze. Perhaps he should get his head in the game instead. No wonder Dave R has such issues, reading drivel like that. That column is to journalism as red tide is to the beach. Defilement and stench come...

The name-calling and overt hostility of the emotional, if ignorant of the law, majority of posters here its unfortunately typical of the Antifa mindset to which they have succumbed. Not to suggest that any of them have less than at least room temperature intellects, but they sure have emotions...

Should there be such a storm, and sooner or later there will be, private properties, including beaches, should be repaired/restored with private, not public, money. I think your opinion that private owners would be screaming for public funds in such instance is totally unfounded and, given the...

I hope you encourage all you know to follow your example as you personally and publicly at BCC meetings and by every other means at your disposal urge the BCC to set forth reasonable rules and regs for the Beach Vendors, including limits on setups, require they clean their licensed stretch of...

Dave, I think you'd find were you to take the time to inquire that most BFOs are absolutely in favor of this controversy being resolved fairly by the courts under the dictates of FL statutory and case law and the much longer-established guarantees and standards set forth in the Constitution...

Shannon, Looks to me that boy done brought hisself a rubber knife to a gunfight. Sic 'em!

I did not see Dottie's article, but I know that as surely as day follows night, she was as always absolutely accurate and comprehensive in her reporting. She is as good as it gets. Cecilia, on the other hand.... I knowArt well. He opposes CU as antithetical to the private property rights...

To quote Teresa: "Using the beach is a fundamental human activity." Shannon and Grace and Fact or Fiction, give it up, guys. You are up against a towering intellect, one willing to dispassionately consider all points of view for however many microseconds may be required for those posting facts...

9 years ago, I was driving in DFS en route to my first BCC meeting, with a friend in the passenger seat. We passed a sign advertising a coming exhibit—Revisiting The History of Great Moments in Walton County Government. I scoffed. “That ought to take no more than 5 minutes. Want to see it while...

The truth often is more complex than simply declaring day is night. There was nothing convoluted about that exposition of facts. Your reply, on the other hand, exemplifies convoluted logic, i.e., illogic.

Boomerang, you got one thing right. Walton’s County Attorney isn’t up to the task. You and quite a few others who cry for the repeal of HB 631 fail to understand that it should save the county money by requiring them by statute to observe the requirements of federal and state law regarding...

I don't believe Danny has a son who is a beach vendor. His opponent, for all her many other faults, does. These vendors are sorely in need of ether some reasonable restrictions or banning from the beach altogether. Businesses selling beach equipment seem to prosper but must operate out of...

But for the remark about "struggling economy", this kinda sounds like Walton County. Expropriation of private property by decree didn't work in Zimbabwe, won't work in S. Africa, and, one might expect were the mob to have its way, won't work in Walton either. South African President Cyril...

There is something you can do about it. Vote for Danny Glidewell and Bill Fletcher. They don't have family operating beach businesses on public beach, unlike Cecilia, and they are not backed by the cabal backing Cecilia and Trey Nicks. Getting Danny and Bill on the BCC is the first and essential...

It would be up to the county to show that this use occurred on a specific parcel, not just somewhere on the beach. Also up to the county to show uninterrupted and uncontested use on each specific parcel where the county proved such activity occurred. It'a parcel by parcel, with the burden of...

Reading the statute might help. While the county may file for CU simultaneously on as many properties as it chooses, it must prove each case separately. Under the law, there can be no mass declaration of CU, as proof of all the elements is required on EACH parcel. Beach owners have no...

To the extent the remark or someone's interpretation of same was not jestful, remember that under the law, the beach owner does not have to prove anything. The burden of proof lies entirely with the county, and the court enters the proceedings with the presumption that there has been no...

Beach owners pick up after themselves. They aren't responsible for the greed and entitled mentality of tourists or others who don't do so. I imagine beach owners would want what we all would prefer--tourists respectful of others and accepting of personal responsibility, including taking your own...

You take bob bob's opinion.

Thinking?

I don't own beach property, so, No, taxpayers and ordinary Beach lovers won't pay a cleanup bill I won't have. I have respect for the right and property of others, and I have respect for the law. I have a Constitution and Bill of Rights, and in speaking for those, in this instance I speak for...

Greed caused the county to try to put a fast one over on beachfront owners in the form of the deceptively misnamed Hurricane Storm Damage Reduction proposal. HSDR was about creating 50-150 ft. wide public beach between private beaches and the Gulf. Any storm damage reduction would have been...

Walton is not the only county "stuck with this law". It apples to every county in the state save the two explicitly exempts specified in that law.

The editor who wrote that editorial is obviously the most knowledgeable intellectual giant in the history of newspapers. Or not. Wonder what he was smoking when he had that hallucination.

HB631 apples equally to counties and cities and municipalities. Incorporating South Walton would not change the applicability of that new state law. Only a state judge may invoke customary use, not a city or county. They may petition the court, but only the judge gets to decide. Legislative...

It appears to be a TDC sign and a necessary one at that.

I suspect you will find there is a difference between no enforcement and no arrests for civil trespass. WCSO says it will respond to such calls and will try to mediate on-site. I suspect most trespassers will not argue with an armed deputy who tells them they are trespassing and will peaceful...

Beginning midnight tonight, you may not do so. Doing so after that is trespassing. From the Gulf to th4e MHWL or ECL is public. Private beach landward of MHWL or ECL is off limits to the general public.

By Dave Rauschkolb | Guest columnist Posted Jun 24, 2018 at 10Q00 AM Updated Jun 27, 2018 at 12Q52 PM This is fundamental; our beaches are the prime attraction in Florida. They are the principal reason most of us live here and why most people choose to vacation here with their families...

Perhaps you forget how S. Walton got so crowded long before CU was imposed. Looked to me that tourism was flourishing without CU, and it will continue to do so. If you'll get on 98, 30-A or Scenic 98 right now and through mid-August, you'll see why the limiting factor for tourism is not a lack...

The first case completely overturned that part of the Beach Activities Ordinance banning signs as unconstitutional under the First Amendment. And, yes, when the new statute takes effect July 1, the burden is statutorily on the county to prove its claim of customary use on each and every...

FBB, while we are in agreement on the private property issues, and for that matter, most every issue you brought up, please bear in mind that come election time, we are going to be confronted with a binary choice. Do we want Danny or someone else? Do we want Bill or someone else? We know who...

With overwhelming majorities in both House and Senate sending HB631 to Governor Scott and his signing of that bill into law today, perhaps our county attorney and BCC will take the time to read and understand the new law. The County Attorney clearly misunderstood the requirements of the bill...