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Jim is the best - I'll be there!

Quit trying to fabricate some class war between "The People" and "BPOs". Beach property owners are people too. Take your divisive speech elsewhere - it's tiresome. Earlier you said you were done with this thread. Be a man of your word, Mark.

Bob Bob has suggested that SoWal adopt a slogan, "Respect the beach or leave." But, there's the rub. What about someone who does not respect the beach, but refuses to leave? On private property. Who gets to decide when someone must leave? This lawsuit is not about giving you the absolute right...

"Starved for material"? Says the "dictator" himself. Someone call the sherrrifff. Smile, SoWal.

Thank you for posting

Bob, I'm not following how your comment refutes the points that BMBVagrant made. Can you please explain what was wrong with his point?

Are you too good for the public beaches?

Dave, your personal attacks are the last resort of one who lacks rational, sound arguments. Personal attacks do not belong here. Reggie has likely concluded that one cannot reason someone out of a position that he did not reason themselves into.

Dave, what difference does it make whether a beach is private?

You often use the term "The People". Please define that term for us. What do you mean when you say "The People"? Then, while you are at it, please explain how a "legal declaration of customary use", in which all property owners' rights are obliterated, is actually conservative.

Eventually crowded beach use density must be addressed and managed. Which means at some point, some form of exclusion is necessary. This lawsuit is actually about transferring the right of exclusion from the property owner to the county, regardless of whether the homeowner currently welcomes...

Mputnal, you seem to have a deep desire for fairness. I can respect that. I have 2 questions for you. 1. Is it fair to legally sell something valuable to thousands of citizens, only to take it away from them without compensation? (And as Walton County attempted also, without due process?) 2...

Resorting to ridicule is a display of an inability to address the hard facts that were presented. And yes, power brokers are fueling socialistic emotions. It wouldn't be so funny to you if you were the one losing your money and property.

No fantasy boogey man here. BPOs have already been forced to spend thousands of dollars on legal expenses. Each defendant. And the cases havn't even officially started. And there's over 700 defendants. Don't try to dismiss our concern as fantasy fears. It's reality. And corruption is indeed...

You do realize this lawsuit that has been cleverly sold to the innocent public under the banner of "customary use" is actually a wicked, greedy attempt to ROB thousands of innocent homeowners of ALL of key essential rights that come with property ownership. It's a scary, socialistic, slippery...

S.O.S. The whole point of a "neighborhood beach access" is so that local neighbors would have a way to walk/run the foreshore, to take a sunset walk or do a private sunrise yoga session at the water's edge or peacefully launch a kayak or paddle board, or access the foreshore for some quiet...

Wow! Did you see the article just posted on the Walton County Wave? Check it out.

I apologize, but I'm still not understanding. Can you explain a little more detailed please?

FALSE narrative, cotton candy slogan: "It's not about left and right, it's about right and wrong. It's wrong to exclude the public from any of America's beaches." Today on Twitter on a Socialist account Straight up TRUTH: It's not about left and right, it's about right and wrong. It's wrong...

I'm not that familiar with Gulf Shore Manor Beach. Is the Santa Clara public beach access right in the middle of it? Is that where those two leftist democratic political candidates just orchestrated that "Stand your Sand" protest in response to the FBFA event inviting everyone to go to any...

What makes you say that?

Not everyone can afford the luxury of living behind the private locked gates of segregation.

You mean like this?

Concerned Citizens Organize to Restore Customary Use in Walton County

Defuniak Herald August 29, 2019 By DOTTY NIST "Florida Beaches for All, a newly-formed nonprofit organization, has set the goal of preserving and perpetuating the doctrine of customary use of the beach in Florida and “all of coastal America,” according to the group’s mission statement. Led by...

To Dave:

Au contraire, girl, the author of Shifting Sands BS propaganda does not own this thread.

LV2, we're in agreement that propaganda is at the heart of what is tearing our community apart. But you've got it backwards who is perpetually fueling the propaganda machine and has been for some time now. "If you keep telling a lie over and over and over and over again, the populace will start...

I only stay anonymous because of the legitimate concerns for my business and property. I have seen all the acts of protest and challenges on beach property, and I can't take any chance that Uhlfelder or FBFA or God forbid that BeachApp guy won't come after me like has been done at Vizcaya...

Not sure what you mean by "such lengths", unless that is indicative of how hard you're trying to figure out who everybody is with these normal anonymous userIDs like EZ4144, Lake view too, Bob Bob, PapaJ, jensky, Dawn, Mputnal, foX. Etc. (and don't count off for spelling, please.) You, Dave...

Lookin forward to it!

Next time I talk to Mike, I will confirm how often that word gets misspelled. The real desperation was exhibited by your feeble attempt to distract from the genuinely compelling arguments presented by both posters, and your inability to reasonably answer any of the questions presented in this...

Inconvenient? Here's one thought: Perhaps you should talk to Rauschkolb about campaigning for Surf Rider to sue Watersound for eminent domain to open up a public street transecting that neighborhood so the public has access to that gorgeous beach that is calling the public's name. Surfrider...

Jim, that was just description of how Dave would like to control the use of the beach if he had control. (Along with the cotton candy lengthy description of why his affluent neighborhood is justified in blocking the public's access to God's beautiful shoreline.) Dave is not an elected official...

Definition of a compromise: settlement of a dispute that is reached by each side making concessions. Suzanne was right. Dave didn't offer any compromise.

I'm just an individual. Not a multimillion-dollar corporation, so it's unfair of you to make that comparison. Look carefully to see who the true power broker is.

Here's my new favorite metric: 5- 4 US Supreme Court Knick v. Township of Scott, 17-647 June 21, 2019 This new ruling changes the way "takings claims" are litigated nationwide. Property owners seeking just compensation now get the fast lane.

Since you are apparently so interested in metrics, here's a few more: Dave Rauschkolb has posted 33 comments on this thread alone, from April 27 - June 20, 2019, and yet... In comparison, Dave Rauschkolb has posted 35 times TOTAL in the entire last YEAR anywhere on SOWAL forum, prior to...

The fact that you study these metrics so closely is quite revealing. The fact that you try to use the metrics to discount the facts is also revealing. As if you are desperately afraid who might actually be reading the true facts that have been presented in this thread. (If any of it is not...

Serious question: If fighting for public beach use is a national issue, why does Walton County have to foot the bill? :scratching:

Be more specific. Which statement was a lie? Go ahead. Prove your point. Give us one fact-based counterargument. Like a grown up. Like a man with character. A cheap substitute meme for lack of facts doesn't cut it. In fact, it accomplishes quite the opposite. Proves Reggie's point.

Both arms and a leg were fractured when he ejected from the aircraft, as McCain was shot down by a missile during the Vietnam War. He nearly drowned after parachuting into a lake. After being pulled ashore, the enemy crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt and bayoneted him. Have you ever had a...

"You don't make progress by standing on the sidelines, whimpering and complaining. You make progress by implementing ideas." - Shirley Chisholm

Double standards should be everyone's concern who wishes to participate in an open forum in an honest, engaging, and informative manner.

1. What specific rule did Reggie break? 2. Was Reggie given any warning or asked first nicely to edit his post? 3. Was Lake View Too's name calling and repetitive postings of our nation's president standing over a POW's grave respectful and kind? Why is he not banned? 4. Were you Kurt being...

Exactly who do you mean would be welcoming a BFO to enjoy his own private property? Additionally, who is going to manage the density in order to adequately protect the entire sensitive beach ecosystem as well as preserve the unique beach experience that distinguishes Walton County beaches from...

Does the Fifth Amendment protect you against another person's commercial use of your private property? Surely you do understand that's what this is all about, right?

For utilitarian use. Not so sure about recreational-use. I think I read somewhere there's been some court decisions already on this type of eminent domain. Thank you for your mention of constitutional law.

Oh, but you flatter me. I'm not nearly as nice.

Wow. Never guessed you were the type to ridicule the elderly for your own amusement. That's a new low. Can we talk about a "reputation index"? Let me get my calculator. (I would call up Lake View Too, because he likes to calculate the ratios. But alas, he's been a "secret identity" on this...