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    Walton County COVID19 Updates

    From MedMd.com "It may take 2 weeks for your body to get over the illness. That’s the average recovery time for mild cases, according to the World Health Organization. For those with severe or critical cases, recovery can take up to 6 weeks." So using the 3/31/2020 numbers Kurt provided (18...
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    Walton County COVID19 Updates

    Kurt, thank you for all the VOVID-19 updates. Do you (or anyone else) know how many of the 29 positive cases have recovered? Any idea of average recovery time from positive test? (if so we could take historical records of when cases confirmed and draw conclusions on current number of active...
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    Beachfront Owners Sue Sheriff and County for Closing Beaches

    Let's see if we can actually discuss an issue without name calling and keep to facts and not personalities of the people. Bob, do you believe that during the pandemic, the ONLY people that should be allowed in Walton County should be ONLY full time residents? No visitors, outside workers, no...
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    Beachfront Owners Sue Sheriff and County for Closing Beaches

    When the BCC asked about that specific issue at the meeting there was mention of social distancing issues in grocery stores and take out lines but zero examples or evidence that any beach front owners opened their property to the public or violated any gathering and social distancing rules "like...
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    Tourist Development Tax Proposal

    Here is a $64 million dollar question. Why spend any more on beach advertising until we improve the infrastructure for our unique and sensitive ecosystem? We already have more tourists than the infrastructure is capable of handling without non reversible ecological damage. Spend the money on...
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    Sarah Moss for Commissioner Seat #5

    Sara, Thank you very much for your post and willingness to run for office. Here is another important question and one that has divided the community. Do you support the BCC position proposed in the 2016 Ordinance of removing property rights to legally deeded private property between the dune...
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    Despite lies about me, public beaches are still public [by Mike Huckabee]

    We should add the number of parking spaces and the number of restrooms available at each of the 9 public beaches. How many restrooms are needed for 4 million tourists a year so they are not doing as you suggest?
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    Despite lies about me, public beaches are still public [by Mike Huckabee]

    So are you saying the root cause may not be Mike Huckabee? Do you think the root cause might be a 10-fold increase in tourists in the last decade, now at the 4 million number? What happens as that number grows larger and tourists are bussed in and not even paying bed tax in Walton County...
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    Despite lies about me, public beaches are still public [by Mike Huckabee]

    Are you saying Huckabee is the root cause of the significant disruption of beach life? What does that mean? Was he responsible for the Edgewater Court case in 2008 which confirmed private property ownership (yet again - check the Walton Clerk of Court Web Site and read the documents). Was he...
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    Repeal bill filed to repeal HB 631 In the Florida house of representatives

    You mean like the following?: 1. No taxes are paid on beach front properties 2. Public Property became Private Property due to HB 631 3. Quiet Title made Public Beach Property Private Property 4. Walton County Residents have had unlimited use of Private Property from the...
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    Repeal bill filed to repeal HB 631 In the Florida house of representatives

    From Dave’s Post #52 “We extremely love our right to use every grain of sand from the dune line to the water line” Dave: What year did the “right to use every grain of sand from the dune line to the water line” become law? Does that “right” extend to the property in the State of Florida...
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    Restore Customary Use Town Hall Meeting Jan 30

    Dave, here are some answers to the questions asked: 1. What public property became private property as a result of HB631? (none) 2. What year did the first BCC beach ordinance not recognize private property rights? (2016) 3. What year did forced occupation of private property...
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    Restore Customary Use Town Hall Meeting Jan 30

    I guess question #4 just got answered. According to Court Document 1218 in Case 2018-CA-547 on the County Web Site Attorney Dan was fired by FBFA (or at least no longer represents FBFA interests). Also looks like Dave in Court Document 1217 in Case 2018-CA-547 no longer requires the services of...
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    Restore Customary Use Town Hall Meeting Jan 30

    Here are some important questions FBFA should answer at the meeting: 1. What public property became private property as a result of HB631? 2. What year did the first BCC beach ordinance not recognize private property rights? 3. What year did forced occupation of private...
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    Repeal bill filed to repeal HB 631 In the Florida house of representatives

    Dave, do you own property between the dune and the MWHL? If so where? Do you allow unlimited people with unlimited equipment between the dune and MWHL on your private property? Do you allow them on your property above the dune line? Should a local government entity be allow to remove State...
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    Should Americans be denied access to the sand behind beachfront homes that American's rescue?

    This certainly an interesting approach and has some merit. 1. It will eliminate the unlimited occupation with unlimited equipment for conservation purposes 2. It will protect the turtle nesting area and other wildlife habitat and conserve the beach for future generations 3. It...
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    Should Americans be denied access to the sand behind beachfront homes that American's rescue?

    According to the laws in Florida “if the property is less than five acres in area, and a dwelling house is located on it, the property will automatically be treated as “posted land” even though no signs have been erected” Under Florida law a criminal Trespass occurs where a person “willfully...
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    Should Americans be denied access to the sand behind beachfront homes that American's rescue?

    Today, the Public can walk the entire 26 miles of beach, swim, fish, take pictures, and enjoy. That right is protected by the State of Florida (not Walton County). What the Public cannot do is “day camp” with unlimited people with unlimited equipment on Private Property against the will of the...
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    Repeal bill filed to repeal HB 631 In the Florida house of representatives

    The tweet exchange this morning between Florida Representative Alex Andrade and Dave are very informative. Go take a look if you have twitter. Here is a question that maybe Suzanne or Dave can answer: 1. What year did Edgewater lose their property right of exclusion within their State of...
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    Repeal bill filed to repeal HB 631 In the Florida house of representatives

    Forced occupation of private property with unlimited people with unlimited equipment against the will of the property owner has never been permitted in the State of Florida. If the BCC wants to purchase more property for public beaches like the property across from Stinky's then so be it. Just...
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    Repeal bill filed to repeal HB 631 In the Florida house of representatives

    The TRUTH is each individual private property owner has always had control of who, how many, and how equipment can be on their property. It has always been that way. Even in the 1950's and 1960's, if you did not rent from Eric Allen (Dune Allen Beach) then you could not be on his property...
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    Repeal bill filed to repeal HB 631 In the Florida house of representatives

    The people behind the law suit "Mr. No Compromise no matter what the cost" convinced the BCC that "only a dozen BPO's would object" and threw Bill Fletcher under the bus for the BCC election because he dared to use the dirty "C" word (screenshots available) thought the BPO's would not stand up...
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    Repeal bill filed to repeal HB 631 In the Florida house of representatives

    It is the BCC that MUST PROVE IN COURT that forced occupation of unlimited people with unlimited equipment against the will of the property owner in the State of Florida is ancient, reasonable, without interruption, and without dispute.
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    Repeal bill filed to repeal HB 631 In the Florida house of representatives

    And you have opened the eyes of many! I am glad you respect the arguments, but most importantly you should respect the laws. That is exactly why our founders formed a government to protect the rights of private ownership that can not be TAKEN without judicial approval. Checks and balances. The...
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    Repeal bill filed to repeal HB 631 In the Florida house of representatives

    Actually there is NOTHING that I have to prove in court, it is the BCC that MUST PROVE IN COURT that forced occupation of unlimited people with unlimited equipment against the will of the property owner in the State of Florida is ancient, reasonable, without interruption, and without dispute.
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    Repeal bill filed to repeal HB 631 In the Florida house of representatives

    The boundaries on beach properties are not just word descriptions but legally defined boundaries that are fixed each year, measurable, can be surveyed and marked. Therefore, parcel numbers do have legally meaning and are protected by the State of Florida. Please see FLORIDA STATUTES CHAPTER...
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    Repeal bill filed to repeal HB 631 In the Florida house of representatives

    I have looked at the evidence and the State of Florida believes deeded property has Private Property Rights. The State of Florida Property Rights are published on the Walton County Web Site and the right is exclude people is a Key Right. I believe it also, but most importantly the State of...
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    Repeal bill filed to repeal HB 631 In the Florida house of representatives

    According to the State of Florida, ALL deeded properties that include boundaries that extend from the toe of the dune to the MWHL (if defined as such in their deed) are able to exclude people, just like it has been since Florida became a State. Your turn, name ONE deeded property that was...
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    Repeal bill filed to repeal HB 631 In the Florida house of representatives

    The reason not one person or newspaper article can provide parcel numbers of ANY public property that became private property because of HB 631 (Florida Statute 163.035} is because absolutely no public property became private as a result of HB 631 (now Florida Statute 163.035)
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    Repeal bill filed to repeal HB 631 In the Florida house of representatives

    Yes, according to the official Walton County Property Appraiser Web Site by Patrick Pilcher cross referencing every parcel in the Exhibit A of the BCC court case for all 1194 properties, not one could be found that was Public prior to 2016 that became private property.
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    Repeal bill filed to repeal HB 631 In the Florida house of representatives

    Is it badgering to ask a question on a statement that is contradictory to information posted on the Walton County Appraisal Web Site? According to the Walton County Appraisal District there are no public beaches that became private because of Florida Statute 163.035. If that is wrong, please...
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    Repeal bill filed to repeal HB 631 In the Florida house of representatives

    Dave - What Public Beach became Private Property as a result of Florida Statute 163.035. Another specific question. “Since you arrived in 1986 and until 2016, what portion of the deeded property of Edgewater did the Walton County Appraisal District, the BCC, or the State of Florida define as...
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    We all share in the ownership and destiny of 30A, North and South Walton.

    Yes, coexistence, cooperation and support of each other will be one of the key defining factors of the greater 30A community. How we treat each other will impact the 30A legacy.
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    Repeal bill filed to repeal HB 631 In the Florida house of representatives

    HB 631 did not privatize any beaches in Walton County or the State of Florida. Absolutely ZERO Public Beach was made Private Beach in HB 631. HB 631 does confirm that a local government entity cannot remove Florida granted Private Property Rights (right of exclusion) without judicial process...
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    Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

    There you go again with another "myth". According to your logic if you buy a beach front property that extends to the MHWL with a structure (home) and front yard valued at $500 K, but the property costs $2,500,000, then you only pay tax on $500K? Not true.
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    Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

    The inconvenient truth is that there is no one alive today when the entire 26 miles of Walton County Beach Property was public property. Looking at Property Sales, there is a tremendous difference in value (costs) between two similar properties, one with deeded property line to the MHWL and the...
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    Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

    Ah, there you go again with more "myths". Taxes are paid on the entire property. A property that has title boundaries to the MWHL will cost significantly more than the same size property a few miles inland and taxed accordingly. Therefore taxes are paid on the "unbuildable portion behind the...
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    Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

    If the Beach Front Property is only "worth" $400, why did the BCC pay $7.2 MILLION Dollars for the private property across from Stinky's that they just opened as a Public Beach? The "myth" that taxes are not paid on beach front property has also been proven wrong numerous times, along with the...
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    Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

    The State already does protect the entire shoreline and a person can walk the entire beach front, swim, build sandcastles, or fish (with the exception of the Federal lands owned by the Military). That is different than forced occupation of private property by unlimited people with unlimited...
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    Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

    There is not a person alive today when all the property above the MHWL was all Public Property. It has always been Private Property and Private Property is the 30A legacy from the beginning. People have always been able to use the private property if it was not against the will of the property...
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    Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

    Charles, as of today, yes that would be your private property and as such you would have the full rights established by the State of Florida, which is also listed on the Walton County Web Site: Florida Property Owner Bill of Rights 1. The right to acquire, possess, and protect your property. 2...
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    Mike Huckabee Gives Local Attorney A Boost

    No Private Property in the State of Florida has ever been subject to FORCED occupation of unlimited people and unlimited equipment AGAINST the will of the property owner. Never ever. Not saying that it can not happen. Just that it is currently not legal and has never happened before. So yea...
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    Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

    An ordinance that permits unlimited people and unlimited equipment AGAINST the will of the property owner is FORCED occupation. It is illegal in the State of Florida for a local Government Entity to enforce such an ordinance without judicial approval. The lawsuit is an opportunity for the BCC...
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    Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

    FORCED occupation of private property of unlimited people and unlimited equipment AGAINST the will of the property owner has NEVER been permitted in the State of Florida. Never ever.
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    Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

    Thank you for confirming that the only “authority” Walton County BCC has is to request to the court (judicial branch) to determine recreational customary use IF the BCC can PROVE that recreational customary use (in particular the BCC request for unlimited access by unlimited tourists with...
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    Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

    mputnal post #2143 "Also you are wrong about the BCC authority to declare public recreational use" The State of Florida in Statute 163.035, specifically states that the judicial branch has the authority and that a governmental entity (AKA BCC) does NOT have the authority to declare public...
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    Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

    According to the State of Florida, Walton County BCC DOES NOT have the authority to declare recreational customary use. It is a judicial process (and the BCC is not part of the judicial branch). The BCC can request to the court (judicial branch) to determine recreational customary use IF the...
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    Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

    mp, you state Property rights require due process. What does that mean? Does that mean all property purchased since Florida became a State requires due process or only BPO property? Is that the same for all BPO property in the State of Florida or only Walton County? You also did not answer the...
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    Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

    Thank you for asking. This went to court because in 2016 the BCC, for the first time ever, tried to pass a beach ordinance illegally taking away private property rights that has been held since Florida awarded property deeds. This illegal attempt by the BCC to "remove" State of Florida Property...
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    Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

    mp, what a futile attempt at twisting words. Alex was merely pointing out your obvious strawman fallacy of what's causing the division. If the county government wants to confiscate private property without compensation. it obviously belongs in the courts. The BCC also claims this lawsuit is...
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