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Well, it does bug me that the WCC pushed forward legal action, to the tune of $10M+ of "OUR" money, for a suit that it was unlikely to win. And of course did not. We all know that Walton County provides every property owner a deed that encompasses a tax responsibility and a personal...

I'll take a stab regarding the property rights issue. I read this as the beach front owners who did not intervene, with or without representation in the CU issue, are now faced with the county "claiming" these respective owners' property as open to public use. I could be wrong on this...

All of this is 100% correct. And is very easy to verify.

SUP View said: ↑ Thanks. Can't think of a time when a family visit would not be "essential". Even to the crazy aunt or uncle. Straight from the SJW-morally superior-"we know better than you" playbook of replies. Must take quite an effort to reach that level of misery.

Thank you for the update Teresa.

Thanks. Can't think of a time when a family visit would not be "essential". Even to the crazy aunt or uncle.

Get my way? Ouch. My wife and I have had our four family groups cancel their visits for all of April and May and reschedule later this summer. All as a result of not being able to go on our property. In a very small way, this hurts the local restaurants for additional pick-up meals and that...

bitter1 oh, bob1 The last few weeks on 30A, the walks and paths are full of people getting exercise and most are adhering to the social distance requirement, but not all. Hard to control all of that from a common sense standpoint. But if all of the congregating on the 30A paths is...

Thanks Bob. And remember, water is wet.

Thank you for posting this and the link. Beyond the "legal" position or interpretation, it would be a nice change to have the county officials use some common sense. As stated, you can go in your backyard, i.e. on your "grassy" area, but can't walk 10 feet to the sand that is part of your...

Interesting read and thanks for the link. It will be good to get the legal opinion of this in regard to general use of the beach and not a specific need.

Very classy. Thanks for helping to prove my points.

FACTS: - The County, "influenced" by SJW locals for the most part, initiated the legal action that is taking place. So I take it you are OK with the County spending millions of taxpayer monies on this suit that may take years to end. I am not. The BFO's are funding the legal fees on...

Please explain how BFO’s are costing you and others money? By legally defending their property rights PROVIDED BY WALTON COUNTY.?!

Explain how Mr. Huckabee, with his noted actions, disrupts the beach life significantly? Mr. Huckabee did attend a "town meeting" and tried to encourage everyone to find a middle ground. No one on the CU sided had any interest in that notion. But like many progressives these days, the...

Without customary use in place, the possibility of corporate growth and an increase in population should be diminished to a degree. Quite the opposite if customary use was the law of the land.

And the relevance of that is.......?

Yup. “The beatings will continue until moral improves”.

mputnal said: On your parcel do you put up fence or other means of delineating a private specific use? If not then how would you expect a beach user to interpret your private specific use? The key word here is "private". And it is developers, business owners, and surfer vigilantes that...

Good points Alex Miles. I agree with the opinion of many along 30A, BFO's and non-BFO's, that the whole CU push is losing steam. The law and facts will supersede group-think emotion. The educated people on both sides of the issue realize the incredible county tax dollar waste with the...

"And beachfront owners have the nerve to say they own and protect the beach. Pitiful." My MAIN point was trying to find a direction for resolution about the eyesore that these two properties show. Regarding your unnecessary "jab", I am a BFO. And I continue to put up fencing / vegetation to...

Has the county had a response in regard to these properties? What is the standard course of action to get the property owners to make the necessary improvement / cleanup? Both properties seem to be "somewhat vacant" when you go past the street side.

"The BCC has not submitted evidence which proves all 4 criteria. The chasing of billions of tourist dollars by the BCC is not a valid criterion for forced removal of Florida Property Rights." Bingo Winner!

Thank you Reggie for a simple and accurate description of this issue. Facts are facts and that will remain the case regardless of how the CU supporters or activists portray the subject matter. Some of us continue to politely ask the commissioners how they can justify spending our tax dollars...

Agree 100% DanaMarie. It has NEVER been about the elite, wealthy or powerful BFO's. Although those words could describe some CU supporters who will benefit from a large increase in tourists / visitors / developers should they be able to promote that private property is now open to all comers...

I spoke to several who had signed and asked them if they were aware that they could be questioned by opposing counsel about their individual affidavit. The look of "unawareness" was obvious and a little comical.

Well written SCJ. VERY well done! And I agree 100%. Still somewhat puzzling that the CU supporters have not or will not state why it is in the best interest of ALL OF US that millions OF OUR MONEY is being spent by the county on this issue.

Has there been any mention by the WCC that they will appeal if Judge Green rules in favor of the BPO's? And any mention / discussion on how much of OUR tax money will be used for that step?

If the CU supporters would just stick to ALL of the facts, and not just their cherry-picked hyperbole, the discussion would be much better. And certainly shorter.

Maybe. And maybe the CU supporters will lighten up on their hate and hypocrisy pointed at the BFO's.

BFO's are NOT providing any area for recreational purposes or ANY other purpose. Moot point. Nice try though.

I must have missed the early happy hour.

Most accurate sentence of the issue and easy for all to understand. Thank you.

Is the sand not good enough there? The view? The lack of crowds? Access to restrooms? Good parking? NO beach vendors? Or do some deem themselves too good for the state park?

Pretty broad brush you use regarding soul crushers. As a BFO, it is my right and responsibility to take care of my property in the best way possible. I don't believe it should be a problem for anyone to understand that, particularly as a legal matter. I am more than happy to have a young...

To mputnal, those of us fortunate enough to have beach front property, we are certainly NOT the power brokers to whom you incessantly refer, and never identify. I would assume you'd consider the developers and some local merchants that want more tourists as the power brokers that are pushing...

From mputnal: "For example, Sup View posted about 10 or 12 court cases that .he said proved a certain point. Someone found that not one of those cases proved his point. Sup View was deceptive which is the opposite of truth." Uh, no. You might consider reading my posts a few more times. ALL...

Without capitalism, you wouldn't be in a position to post on this site. And as noted previously, the WCC's and the county attorney have both told me personally that the property liability will still remain with the property owners if CU were implemented. I don't know of a location in the US...

Not sure when you jumped on this train, but the BPO's have been willing from the beginning of this ridiculousness to discuss with the WCC's about a solution. But the WCC's have NEVER provided an idea or suggestion for a resolution. Wonder why? They seemingly don't want a "compromise" - they...

Your griping should be directed at past, present and future WCC's. The FACT that the County sold the land, benefited from that sale, and provided all the rights of ownership to the buyers, is undeniable and unchallenged by UC supporters legally. The BFO's have done everything right and by the...

Those NY bartenders must make good money.

"We are all falling for a real estate developers head fake. The commercial interests along 30-A are dividing 30-A lovers as they get the Walton BCC to do their bidding. The county continues to pursue additional north-south connectors form 98 to CR30-A in the state forest so more tourists can...

Interesting that the WCC, when asked, could not provide an approximate number of people that are adversely affected by the perceived lack of public beach access. Should be an easy answer if you are prepared to spend millions in a lawsuit on that point. If corporate development were to grow...

Why would that matter?

Agree totally on the importance of community and good will. If my wife and I sit on the beach at our property and enjoy watching a younger couple with a couple of kids having a good time in front of us, that is great. Glad to let them know good places to eat, ask them where they are from...

Well, I am certainly not a "Power broker" nor are any of the BFO's I know. While I do listen to my conscience, I am going to trust my property deed and the responsibilities I have for the property.

Both insurance companies on 30A that handle our property let us know that there would be several "dominoes" that would fall if CU were implemented. One is that rates would certainly go up. I also confirmed this with a larger property insurance group Destin. They also offered that if...

Along side any Property rights issue is that of property liability. I have spoken with Sydney Noyes and Sara Comander when she was on the WCC, regarding the property liability for the BFO's if all of the beach were available to the public. Sara told me the WCC was looking in to that issue and...

The whole issue has never been about Customary Use or Beach Access. It is about Corporate Use and Corporate Access. Public beach access has always been available in ample supply - but not always on the "front row". And that seems to be the rub for a lot of people that come to the water. You...