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Actually, I was going to call the Cottages of Camp Creek an example of very good, innovative planning. The way I understand it, the cars are out of view when using your house, since the houses look out over that pool area, right? Your "outdoor living space" doesn't front the street or a...

No, quite to the contrary I said that Seaside's design, in order to be honest to its vision, would require that given its original master plan. Since it doesn't, I quit renting there. Nor would I buy there, for that specific reason. I own in a place that architecturally has managed the problem...

I went on lots of paths, and it varied. Very much so. Parts I was on were clearly for hiking (the orange trail on the above map, for example, which I was definitely on, since it was (unclearly) marked), or were so unmaintained that if they were for bikes shouldn't be. Others you could bike on...

Well, of course a true developer would take the $4 million. And, a true artist would park the 100 cars (or ban or limit cars entirely) impeding the attainment of its visionary goal. A developer deeply commited to aesthetics might settle for $2 million and a slightly less than perfect, although...

Well I did this trail or at least parts of it today and was not overwhelmed. Actually, if you go on the nature trail right west of Watersound you appear to be able to get on it. Also, behind the power plant. Problem is, if what I was on is the bike trail (and from the map above I was) it...

Right--RB was the next try, some successes but not a solution. I see it as an inherent problem with the New Urbanism, whiich has as one tenet ejecting people from their cars and getting them to walk, char with the neighbors, having self-sufficient communities, etc. BUT, people don't like to do...

Sure if Seaside's goal has changed to enhance real property value there and in the area then sure it is a success. Overwhelmingly. I think they have done a good job in giving great weight to the aesthetics (original goal) along with that, at least until recently. But, on pure aesthetics and...

I think the article unjustifiably sensationalized the dune damage, but was dead-on right about the car issue. I stayed several times at Seaside over the years, even b/f the south side of 30A was developed (it was much much nicer then). There are two major, fundamental problems that impede it...

Yeah, I live on 30A East and have the same issue. Want to get on the trail from 30A. Just lazy I guess. But--riding all the way to the 395 entrance from the eastern part of 30A and back to do the loop really spoils things. When there I am going to look at the map in my drawer again which I...

Hmmm. That seems to indicate that there is no 30A East entrance, as state lands cut off b/f the private property edging 30A (I think that would be "Prominence"?). But, I am virtually certain that the paper map from the tourist center in my drawer in SoWal had an entrance on 30A. Like, maybe...

I am good, thanks, 16 states later (road trip to NYC after Rita) and who knows how many miles on the car. Back in NOLA, doing volunteer work while waiting for work to start and doing repairs on the house, which did not flood. Damage will be about $2.00 above or below the deductible. So, very...

My bike path map indicates that there is a path North of 30A and east of 395, say near Deer Lake Park. It says one entrance is around Nature Walk and one off of 30A near Watersound. But, I cannot find the entrance off of 30A near Watersound. All there seems to be is a walking path (little...

Some things learned by me from this: 1. Evacuate if at all possible, or realize fully the choice you are making if you stay. If you stay, really do have the food & water supply they talk about. 2. TELL PEOPLE WHERE YOU ARE!! I repeat, TELL PEOPLE WHERE YOU ARE!! Don't say "I think I...

Nope, they are still there, depending on the levee situation. Again, everything I am hearing from uptown is positive (again remember the scale to measure this). I would bet that there is about at least 6 feet of water in lots of the first floor classrooms, and no doubt the school is banged up...

Here ya go. Just off the press: "There are several reports that the Uptown area remains unflooded, particularly around Magazine and Jefferson and Mag. and Webster; Prytania and Napoleon. Similar reports re the Garden District. " From T-P web site...

From what I have seen so far on the tv: Jackson square--lots of trees down, but no major structural damage other than the fence. Until the flooding today the quarter seemed to fare well (well, for this circumstance) St. Charles Ave.--Some major wind damage around St. Charles & Napoleon...

At least on 30A East, power is fine and has been. Drove down to the Tom Thumb in Seagrove hours ago and that was ok. Modica's & Shades at Seaside were open too, with power on. Too freaked out right now to go do anything daring beyond that. But, it is blustery out so it might vary.

The T-P is blogging and things are going down bad now in NOLA, although no water so far-- http://www.nola.com/weblogs/nola/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_nolaview/archives/2005_08.html#074702

Nola.com just posted the Times Picayune coverage: http://www.nola.com/hurricane/829_page1.pdf Good reporting. They quote the NWS report WU posted, BTW.

WU is telling the truth. WU is not a troll. This is real. But it is all a maybe and a could right now. The town and the quarter has been around for centuries. It will be there Tuesday. Maybe a bit wet and strewn around. "All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of...

I am in SoWal, having flipped the "east" head of the coin in the flip between Houston and here. At least I am in my own home rather than a hotel room like others. I am seeing lots of LA & Miss. plates here.

About 70% of the city is below sea level. It varies. My house oddly is about 10 ft above sea level, and never floods (but I am expecting it to and simply now am hoping it is maybe there with just maybe one thing I can keep from my life when I am allowed to go back, say, in October), but houses...

There are many tourists who simply could not get out of town. No airplanes, no rental cars. They are vertically evacuating in hotels. I would be drinking in the quarter, too. This weekend was freshman orientation weekend at Tulane and Loyola universities--parents with their kids. Again, I...

Nope, didn't feel it was too dramatic, rather as a long-time NOLA resident know the story cold, as most do. It is really disconcerting, living in NOLA, to have the national media sensationalizing the potential harm when you are living there. We don't need the tv drama, just want to save our...

That he just did is indicative that we who live in NOLA are all ******. The reason why New Orleans doesn't do mandatory evacuations, from what I have heard, is that it is impossible to evacuate the city, really, even with contraflow. I think there is some legal reason following from that...

Oh please, let's not start yet with the "hurricane hitting NOLA" scenario. I expect it tomorrow night on the evening news ("Well, Bob, we expect that 1/2 will die from the flooding, and the other half 1/2 will die from exposure after being trapped on their roof for days fending off snakes and...

People here (in NOLA) aren't getting worried at all, yet. Very calm. Just watching it to see when it turns N, which would be the real indicator on probable landfall. If it heads any further west, then there will be pandemonium here tomorrow, but SoWal then might be in the clear. It's that...

Having just made the call to have my SoWal house boarded, now it looks like I might be evacuating to SoWal (from New Orleans) in a day or so. Hurricane Season. Gotta Love it.

Unless FL foreclosure process is radically different, foreclosure data were rarely be telling on a recent market transition, since it takes significant time for a property to reach the foreclosure stage. Loan has to go into default, the rules complied with (which can add on years in some...

Yeah, I am not crying in my beer for them. When I was in the market, I felt like a freak because if I bought I lot I darn well intended to build on it. What an odd alien concept. Wow, I forgot the remote owner problem. So, Buyer 1 buys at 250k. Buyer 2 buys at 550k. Buyer 3 buys at 850k...

Hmmm, from what CCK says, wouldn't there be a point in the build-out period where the lot is for all intents and purposes unsaleable to the general market? (And thus, would have a "market value" of zero). Owner could alter this date by getting plans, approvals etc., which would involve more...

Yeah, I was assuming away a whole lot with the building the next day scenario. Just wanted to do the bare math, first. The build-out devaluation could be even more pronounced, in my view, because of Joe's restrictions and requirements. Not like you can just throw a mobile home on the lot.

My view, too. But, an interesting fact about lots with a contractual duty to build out (with only selected builders and with heavy building covenants) is that the lot is going to decrease in true value as the buildout date approaches, right? The value of a lot on which I have to build in three...

My understanding (which can be very wrong, in ample past experience) is that most, if not nearly all, of the listings at WS are third party. Even if St. Joe lists it through their land sales arm, it is not necessarily a St. Joe-owned property. You can check that by comparing county records to...

My view exactly, too, and I am keeping close eye on that. The sheer volume of properties on the market, coupled with the lack of building, leads me to suspect that many of the initial buyers had no genuine intention of building and/or owning there, and are in for a nasty surprise left with a...

I have been keeping very close tabs on WS because, I am embarassed to admit, I would like to buy either there or one place else someday since I think it is groovy and I am a Graham Gund groupie, depending on a few variables, one being of course being able afford the darn place. It seems the...

I am completely horrified and stunned. I thought the variance was an "Emergency Measure to be used cautiously to shore up critically endangered homes and help out devastated gulf front owners". Not a license "Indiscriminately to strew dark sand all over the place and allow people to tramp...

Nope, but such a much more intelligent guess than "prison guard". Now, I am off to plan my new Seaside anarchy-gun market--I am going to call it the "Angry Grouper". ;-)

None of the above. Although, it would be kind of cool to publish an anarchist's magazine, with maybe a gun dealership on the side. I could start a shop, maybe in seaside. Again, I would love to hear you and skier and REschmuck fight this one out. I know I would love it--like a big ole...

Nope, just a professional mess cleaner. Ya know, I would love to see you and skier and REschmuck get on at the same time and debate this together. It sure would be fascinating.

Wow, that really sucks. Lucky you got out. Course, no investment is safe in times like that so I hope you are stockpiling gold. My job is such that I make buckets of money when what you predict happens, so it is sort of a mixed blessing for me. Lucky I will have a beach house to relax in...

Oh, so you are participating. Thanks for clearing that up. I am neither "long" nor "short" in Walton County real estate, preferring to leave those matters to my money people. I own a house there, but that's really it. Hope I enjoy it as much as you obviously did.

If you are not participating, then why are you here telling us this? :idontno:

skier, what I do not get is that you just acknowledged that you have no experience in real estate and/or economic theory. Your prior posts evidence that also, plainly. Help me out, here: if that is the case, then, why are you confidently predicting trends down to the last percentile point...

I was in London a few months ago visiting someone, and nearly every paper's real estate section had a piece about buying a "villa" somewhere, be in Spain or wherever. Orlando was really, really big. Some FL sellers are "guaranteeing" rent for the first few years (essentially a discount). The...

No Sugar Shack tonite, sorry. To report in, the beach at RB was quite fine tonite, sorry dunes aside. Some human urchins were ruining the dunes with Dad's permission until someone pointed out how gauche that was. That restaurant (Onano?) was filling up and given that it is a cool summer...

Ain't that the truth. I am going to ride over to RB and enjoy myself, the sunny evening, and my investment. I'll romp a bit in the grass for you.

Not an expert here, but I would imagine that the Fed and the US govt. are ecstatic about this move. The concern has always been that having the yuan pegged to the dollar created an inflation risk in the PRC, caused the PRC to hoard dollars, and created an artificial advantage for the PRC in...

What's interesting is that this is quite irrational behavior. Buyers see the ridiculous price and are offended and back off, even if they were willing to pay market value. Other buyers see the "for sale" signs carpeting the landscape and back off. Still other buyers see that darn near every...

Do they have non-seafood options, for those who don't want a seafood dish (I know, horrors, but there are these types)?