30-a beach looks like tent city

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  1. Gidget

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    Got it! Thanks for clarification. :D

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  2. Andy A

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    To start with, though it won't totally correct the problem, we could start checking and making those who rent and are NOT paying bedtax, begin doing so or get fined heavily.
     
  3. SHELLY

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    WTF?? :shock:

    Have you made a FOIA request for the invoices Mr Betz submitted for his $2K each month?

    Is it just me, or does something stink out loud in here?

    <Excellent work....reel this one in WCTA--I think you've got a fish on the line.>

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  4. Mango

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    You can source your volleyball sand court on posts for pro matches and donate the money to the County.
     
  5. GoodWitch58

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    wasn't this signed by the same HR department that authorized the family insurance w/out any public notice.......
     
  6. wrobert

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    HR gone wild.
     
  7. wrobert

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    FOIA requests are Federal only. I did get a copy of one of his invoices from purchasing. Was told that there was no contract. Turned it over to someone else at the WCTA to follow up with during the budget scrubs, and they found someone that had a copy of the contract that was posted. The invoice I saw was pretty detailed. If it does not get posted I will try to find my copy and change it to a pdf and post.
     
  8. beachFool

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    I'm not saying the costs are reasonable.

    What no one is thinking about it is the fact that the bike path has to be maintained.

    The bike path is used extensively by tourists and is a heck of a drawing card for the area.

    It would be foolish (and expensive) not to maintain the trail.
     
  9. WCTA

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    Invoice for May 17-22 Attached

    View attachment 13463
     
  10. wrobert

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    I thought we already paid dearly for a maintenance contract with a private company that could report problems. We could set up a reporting hotline for problems, like we did at the WCTA for tax issues, it is not expensive at all. TDC maintenance, county road workers, all of these persons could report problems. I think everyone knows it has to be maintained, I believe the thought is that there has to be a better way of letting the county know when there is a problem. Roads have to be maintained, but we do not pay anyone to ride the roads and tell us where they need to be fixed beyond the persons we already have hired.
     
  11. WCTA

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    $35.00 per hour ? Where did this come from - not in contract

    No scope of services to be provided

    Was not advertised or competitively bid

    Is open ended
     
  12. scooterbug44

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    Yes, we need to maintain the trail, but IMO there is very little "sudden" need for maintenance (except after a storm) - thus regular bike riders or passersby could report any issues to them just as easily. Myself and many other Sowallers use the bike path regularly and while the seasons and visitors change, the patches of sand, gravel, foliage, and sprinkler locations are constant.
     
  13. beachmouse

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    Don't laugh.

    There is actually a pretty big regional beach volleyball tournament on Okaloosa Island every May that helps draw visitors in during what's usually a lull between the seasons.
     
  14. enfuego

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    Isn't the Citizen's Services person supposed to be our advocate and go to person for all things county related??? We dont need mulitple contacts, just one and they can route the calls/issues.
     
  15. Smiling JOe

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    From the invoice in post 189, I see Bay Loop being noted as a billing, yet Bay Loop Road is located on the outskirts of Freeport, and the invoice is titled "30A Bike Path Monitoring." Also, Old 98 is a line item. Is this really a County path monitoring or "30A," as noted? Also, I'd like to bid the job at $30/hour. To whom do I submit the bill?

    Yes, the multi-use path is in desparate need of attention in my opinion. There are many intersections which are blind for drivers entering 30A. There are drainage issues in Seagrove, forcing bikers onto the road, without warning. There are sprinkers spraying into the path of riders, pushing them into the road. Accidents waiting to happen.

    I wonder if this hoopla about cost is merely a distraction. $650/ week ($31,200/ year) is nothing to sneeze at, but with the County being behind for more than $7 million, surely there are bigger fish to fry.
     
  16. scooterbug44

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    There are certainly bigger fish to fry, but all those little fish do add up. A slab of fish is nice, but you can also fill up quite nicely if you get enough popcorn shrimp.

    Mind all the pennies and the dollars take care of themselves. Just this month, we've discussed hundreds of thousands of dollars we could be saving - Commissioner health insurance benefits for families, 12k new ATV for someone to use as we pay them $50k to be a beach ambassador, bike path monitors, etc.

    All the regular bikers (and drivers) can tell you about the Seagrove puddles/washouts and the danger spots ................ because they don't change, so what is this person reporting on or why are we paying someone to report on what they don't fix?
     
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  17. Smiling JOe

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    Yes, the little make up the big, but just remember not to get so focused on one minnow, when there may be an entire school of Tuna swimming about.

    I believe the person billing the County for consulting is one of the two who have been trying to get the corrections made to problems on the path, for several years. I may be wrong, but I think not. If that is the case, it seems to me he has made many lists of problem spots, and the money he is charging, would be better spent on making the actual repairs.

    Now, back to the original intent of this thread: crap on the beach.
     
  18. wrobert

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    Questions to ask your commissioners when they ask for your vote.
     
  19. SHELLY

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    I've got an idea...why don't some paid-for-already Public Works Official pry their lazy arse out of their office chair once a week and bike the path themselves? Problem solved, money saved....next.

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  20. Here4Good

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    Is that the only time we get to ask our commissioners a question? If we didn't vote for them, and do not plan to next time, is there a special star by our name that prevents them from listening to us between elections?

    We only get to vote every four years, and the last two times, at least down here in Zone 5, the candidates were not commissioners when they were running. We had no voting record to ask them about.

    I think the correct answer is, "Questions to ask your commissioner when you call them".
     

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