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Discussion in 'Rentals - Vacation' started by SlowMovin, Aug 25, 2005.

  1. SlowMovin

    SlowMovin Beach Fanatic

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    In a previous thread someone came up with the idea of creating a blacklist of bad renters so that rental owners could avoid them. Anyone interested in pursuing this? Thoughts? Legal issues?
     
  2. Kurt Lischka

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  3. SlowMovin

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    No, I'm not so sure this would be the appropriate place, anyway. And even if it were, I wouldn't do without your approval, Kurt (it is your site, after all), and even then only after seriously vetting it with some legal folk.

    I'm not sure such a thing even could work, unless all the various agencies cooperated and there was some sort of process to avoid the "yes you did...no I didn't" types of arguments that would arise.

    But it would be nice to have some sort of check/balance so that I know I'm not renting to the same person who just trashed some other poster's house a few months earlier. I don't know what that would be nor how it should be implemented (certainly not on this site), but am open to ideas if anyone has any.
     
  4. FoX

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    It would be impossible to keep a list accurate and most offenders wouldn't be repeats that often.
     
  5. Smiling JOe

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    ...and, since most owners do not personally check on their houses between turns, who would be grading these rentors? Housekeepers? I suppose a grading system for owners and rentors may theoretically have potential, but one thing that helps those systems like the ones on ebay and half.com is the quantity of ratings. Unfortunately, people tend to only rent one time per year. Also, to get around the black list, people could rotate the name of the person making the reservations and paying the bill. You may not see the same name for 10 years.

    I think we just have to live with it, or take the houses off the rental program.
     
  6. Miss Kitty

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    Agree...renting your place can be a little like Las Vegas. Pay off can be good, but you definitely take risks.
     
  7. JB

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    If you are going to do that, then let's also have a blacklist of uncaring, unresponsive, crooked property owners/rental agencies. There are plenty of them out there - folks who provide inaccurate information on their properties (false advertising if you will) and do absoultely nothing when a renter has a problem.

    It's only fair to show both sides of the coin.
     
  8. SoWalSally

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    I think a rating and review system for rentals would be a great idea. How would it work and how would Kurt get it started? :D
     
  9. lollygal

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    As an owner, I think any kind of "blacklist" is a BAD IDEA. In my case, people rent directly through me, no management co., etc., and I have not had any TERRIBLE experience. The worst thing that has happened was that they stained the blankets (big deal -- a little Clorox) and one group tried to break into the front door (they forgot where the hide-a-key was, I guess). They didn't cause any great damage, just a little spackling. I have appreciated the people that have rented from me each year and hope they come back next year. (Of course, I know who not to invite back if they caused any kind of mess). (Hopefully, the bad renters are few and far between). The good outweighs the bad and I don't want people thinking they are not welcome on 30A.

    This is just my experience. I totally understand anyone who has had serious damage to their property. I just don't think this forum is the place for it.
     
  10. RiverOtter

    RiverOtter got any pics?

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    Hey Lolly! Stayed in Cottage 06 in your complex. Loved it! Saw yours. Very colorful :cool: We thought it looked great :!:
     
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    You mean you stayed in SSBeach and you didn't let me know? I might have worked you a deal!!
     
  12. SlowMovin

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    I think that's a good idea, too. Like anything else, the great majority of both renters and owners, are honest and care about doing the right thing. But there is the handful that cause trouble, and they make life difficult for all the rest. I posted something on an earlier thread about the people who cancelled on us on check-in day because of rain forecasts (not storms...just rain). Due to a loophole their lawyer found in our rental agreement, we wound up giving them a full refund. I now have someone demanding a refund (after their scheduled check out, of course) because there had been construction going on nearby.

    Likewise, I've had renters who have had bad experiences in the past and have become distrustful to the point where the relationship almost starts off antagonistic. They assume they'll have to fight for their security deposit, fight to get maintenance problems resolved, etc.

    Clark Howard (the talk-radio consumer affairs guy) has often pointed out that the vacation rentals industry is one of the last areas of travel that is not regulated--either by government or itself. I'd suggest that if we don't regulate ourselves the state will eventually step in and do it for us.
     
  13. RiverOtter

    RiverOtter got any pics?

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    We checked yours and it was rented so we got the "hook up" thru Resort Quest
     

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