I agree with you FBB. Thank you for treating me with respect however I do believe that you enjoy a privilege that others will not have even though they work just as hard as you and your family.
I agree with you Dave. Unfortunately you disrespect by using words like "silly" and "ridiculous" etc. I will continue to disagree with your tactic of moral superiority. In my opinion it is hypocritical. Believe it or not I am on the side of Customary Use but not the tactics being used.
Teresa I hear what you are saying and I know that you try very hard to be respectful but one bad apple can spoil the whole bunch. For me it is about the whole bunch of apples not just CU or Property Rights. Does it really have to all or nothing? Is it just not possible to reason with property owners at all?
Why would anyone much less beachfront owners want to identify and subject themselves to the anti-social media vitriol, not publicly by you individually, and risk having Daniel Uhlfelder or others inspired by "Your sand is my sand" baseless misinformation, intentionally come pick a fight with beachfront owners and law enforcement like at Viscaya?What I said is that it is ridiculous that the author of this thread with the fake name,...if we knew who they were ...
I had no idea! The BCC always does the right thing. Our private property rights attorney is getting fired on Monday.5 County Commissioners in Walton County voted 5 to zero to affirm Customary Use as an ordinance. 5 County Commissioners voted 5 to zero to proceed with the process set forth in HB 631.
A carnival barker’s motto.We will tell anyone willing to listen what we believe.
Why not condemn what your group (Uhlfelder) stated about beachfront owners being like “oppressors”, the reason that his Jewish grandparents immigrated to the U.S., i.e. Nazis?There will always be bad actors, out of control with personal attacks.
Uh, it isn’t expected that an attorney would pull out the Nazi card against BFOs in a planned public speech. Not giving Uhlfelder a pass on this one.We don't condone that, nor can we control that as people say and do things on impulse without thinking; plenty of examples of Private Beachfront owners treating beachgoers with disrespect.
And so will BFOs when they are constantly being accused of being mean, rich, selfish, greedy, anti-neighborly, Nazi-like, and oh yeah, title thieves.We, Florida Beaches For All, do not personally attack people and have treated those with private property on the beaches with respect. We will defend ourselves when attacked though.
OMG! All realtors have ethical standards beyond reproach.Attempts to silence hard working Realtors on their opinions supporting Customary Use have and will fail.
I have been on this forum since 2005 in many heated discussions and not once have I ever thought about trying “expose” the identity of those with whom I disagreed. In the end, it doesn’t matter who they are. It’s the content of their post that mattered....We just disagree with you Reggie Gaskins or whoever you are with your fake name and all you others who don't stand out of the shadows as yourselves.
Really? Don’t forget the sea walls.The actions of a handful of private beachfront owners, political operatives, politicians and past politicians and lawyers going all the way back to the stop beach nourishment movement are responsible for any legacy damage that has and may occur.
.......and the curtain closes. “Show’s over! Everyone, please throw your uneatened cotton candy and peanuts in the trash. And watch out for the elephant dung on your way out.”A Judge in Walton County will decide, then many others will decide in other courts. Or, perhaps the people of Florida will decide. One way or the other this goes far beyond any of us.
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1. This picture and comment was used by Dave and FBFA as a scare tactic and as evidence of a private taking of public beach. The platt and public documents published on this thread prove this to be an outright lie. But FBFA wouldn’t allow public comment on it or any other of their false narratives at their meetings or online. Knowing these beaches were indeed private in 2009 and many years before that, you decide.
2. This same fake image was created and first published by the very same individual that created and published the sniper video that shoots and apparently kills a BPO. Yet Dave claims they don’t “associate” with each other, even though FBFA hangs their hat on his fake image and more. Are they working together? You decide.
3. Dave claims just now, here, in this thread, that that he didn’t try to intimidate, silence, or identify a Mr Lince to Sheriff deputy.
Dave: “The investigation was never into James Lince it was into the anonymous blog. We only later found out it was Mr Lince‘s after the investigation was complete.”
Here is the publicly available police report. You decide.
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Is Dave telling the truth? You decide.
There are over 25 cases of public shaming and doxxing of entirely innocent Beach Property Owners, many documented here by more police reports.
Dave, if it’s that important and you’re so interested in meeting me, getting to know me, understanding who I am... let’s meet in a public discussion/forum in the Seaside Amphitheater with a table & microphones. 1 1/2 hours, You and me, and the public. I’ll bring crackers and cheeses, and drinks. You just show up. Let’s have a public discussion with civil discourse, for once. You game?
People, I encourage you to stop listening to only one side. Please please please go meet your neighbors on the beach. They are fine, moral, generous and humble folks from near and far. Dave will tell you not to, to compromise is death! This damn fake war needs to end. If you don’t show up on their property with cameras and looking for a fight, you won’t get one, just like in the last 50 years. Hint, don’t go to Vizcaya, childish CU activists have them pretty jaded.
Headed to the beach.... hope to see ya there. Cuz I bet I won’t see ya at Seaside Amphitheater anytime soon.
So I’ll take that as a “no” for my picnic?
Folks, I have offered an objective, non emotional view in this entire thread. Given the last flurry, YOU decide. Is there room for discussion? Or should we retreat to our tactical corners and wait for courts to decide after the ground is scorched?[/QUOTE]
I doubt Mexico Beach ( located in Florida) is having this discussion..So it appears only a Cat 5 can determine 30A’s future...#OneDayOneWillVisitSo Dave refuses to have an open discussion where he cannot control the audience or message. I can understand why. After all of this discussion, reading back over it, here’s my objective conclusion based on the facts herein:
The Customary Use Fight, Brought on by The County Recklessly Suing it’s Citizens, Regardless of the Ultimate Court Decision, Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy.