1. Trouble logging in? Send a message with your username & email address for help.
    Dismiss Notice

Haiku Poems! Allah! Oh My!

Discussion in 'Local Government and Groups' started by Jdarg, Oct 20, 2014.

  1. Jdarg

    Jdarg SoWal Expert

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2005
    Messages:
    18,069
    Likes Received:
    1,960
    [FONT=&quot]Thank you WZEP for reporting on this Walton County educational news gem. :lolabove: When I saw it in my inbox, I thought it was a joke. About as sad as it is hilarious.

    Haiku Poem About Allah Causes Concerns For Parents[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]On a social media site, local parents have posted a picture of a classroom assignment where the student was given an example of a Haiku Poem. Some parents have expressed concern as the example given said, “After studying ancient Persia and discussing contemporary ideas in world cultures, the example said, Allah is the one; Praise to him they all will cry; Islam is our life.” The picture posted to social media site is below. It contains changes made by a student.[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]
    [​IMG][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]A parent of a student said, “After talking with my son about his day at school, he wanted to show me a paper from his history class. This is a 10th grade world history class at Walton High School. She says students were instructed to write 4 haiku poems and this is the example they were given. WZEP has also heard from others who verified the classroom assignment.[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]We asked Walton Superintendent Carlene Anderson about the assignment and if this was indeed part of the coursework. We also asked if other religious figures have been used. In the past the Judeo Christian beliefs have been taught as part of history assignments.[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Kay Dailey. Supervisor of Curriculum & Instruction with the Walton County School District says Superintendent Anderson made her aware of the concern shared by a Walton High School parent earlier in the month. She went to WHS and talked to the teacher of the student and another who teaches the same course as well as Principal Hughes.[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Dailey says she looked at the textbook used for the World History course. She explains that these are Next Generation Florida Standards and unrelated to Common Core. However, Dailey says it is a World History course and must be taught based on course code descriptions for this course. World History teaches students historical events, customs, religions, and cultures.[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Dailey says the class assignment to write Haikus used an example that referenced a historical figure and a religion. She says the assignment was not about religion nor was religion discussed. Haikus are typically used for cross curriculum instruction. Dailey says the poems are powerful tools because students can easily read, they can easily be understood and can easily be deconstructed.[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Scholastic.com says a Haiku is a form of poetry, first made popular in Japan, which has become appreciated around the world. Haiku poets are challenged to convey a vivid message in only 17[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]syllables. In Japan these poems are valued for their simplicity, openness, depth and lightness.[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Structural Rules:[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]• Use exactly 17 syllables[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]• Syllables are arranged in three lines of 5-7-5[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]• Avoid similes and metaphors[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]• Refers to a season of the year[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]What is a Haiku about? Haiku poems can describe anything, but are seldom complicated or hard to[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]understand. Almost all Haiku has a dominant impression, or main idea, that appeals strongly to one of the five senses.

    [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]https://sites.google.com/site/wzepam1460/
     
  2. Beach Runner

    Beach Runner beats on hood

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2005
    Messages:
    15,196
    Likes Received:
    788
    Location:
    Near the ATL and in SoWal as often as possible
    OMG! You must be kidding me.

    Our daughter loves to write Haiku. This is my favorite that is on her bulletin board at our house. I'm not sure if she wrote this one or not.

    ross is a cowboy
    he knows how to give good rides
    without the horses
     
  3. Danny Glidewell

    Danny Glidewell Beach Fanatic

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2008
    Messages:
    720
    Likes Received:
    549
    Location:
    Glendale
    It would be nice if lessons were factually accurate. Ancient Persia was not Islamic. In fact Mohammed was not born until several hundred years later. So, it would be especially nice if materials in a World History course were in fact historically accurate. The religion of Ancient Persia was in fact Zoroastrianism. The sad thing is that inaccuracies are not uncommon in today's school curriculum. So we are left with garbage in, garbage out.
     
  4. Jdarg

    Jdarg SoWal Expert

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2005
    Messages:
    18,069
    Likes Received:
    1,960
    Something tells me that historical accuracy was not the reason for the complaint.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 21, 2014
  5. DaleDalbey

    DaleDalbey Beach Fanatic

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2011
    Messages:
    282
    Likes Received:
    152
    Jdarg, are you saying the person complaining was not aware that the ancient Persians practiced Zoroastrianism? Hard to believe!! ( sarcasm). The issue boils down to this: those offended on religious grounds are usually the same people who want God and prayer in schools. What they don't say is that it must be their God and their prayer.

    In my family, we decided to raise our children "in the church " as we Southerners say. I have enough confidence in their faith journey that I am not concerned that reading a Haiku is going to indoctrinate them into being Jihadists. I hope learning about ALL religions will teach them to be tolerant and not bigoted fools.
     
  6. bentley williams

    bentley williams Beach Fanatic

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2005
    Messages:
    635
    Likes Received:
    108
    Location:
    SoWal
    Jdarg your image doesn't show - in the story it is a picture of the poem with the words Allah struck out and "Jesus" inserted.

    Religious intolerance is a serious issue. It is the opposite of the freedom which this country was founded on. Ironic that the same people who cry Uhmerica are the same ones who are intolerant. Picture them standing there ready to throw a stone and you realize that progress has not been made from ancient times until now in America. We have regressed so far.

    We didn't use to stand for such ignorance. Our society had a higher standard for education. Travel was embraced. Differences should be celebrated.

    Forgive my soapboxing but it gets worse and worse, especially in the South. I guess I need to move to a more educated and enlightened place.
     
  7. 30A Skunkape

    30A Skunkape Mr. Small Box

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2006
    Messages:
    9,774
    Likes Received:
    1,733
    Location:
    Backatown Seagrove
    Down with Muslim Haikus!

    Walton County's kids need more WASP inspired poetry. Might I suggest the Limerick about the Man from Nantucket?
     
  8. Jdarg

    Jdarg SoWal Expert

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2005
    Messages:
    18,069
    Likes Received:
    1,960
    So WZEP reported that this story came out via social media. It didn't take much social media sleuthing to find out that the Walton County Republican Club is sending a group to today's school board meeting in South Walton today at 4- to protest. Meeting is at high school- shouldbe some good entertainment value if anyone is able to attend (I will still be at work).

    Disclaimer: I doubt this small group of local Republicans represent the majority of Republicans as this seems more Teabilly in nature!
     
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2014
  9. Leader of the Banned

    Leader of the Banned Beach Fanatic

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2013
    Messages:
    2,701
    Likes Received:
    455
    Man from Nantucket
    A national endowment
    Stop or you'll go deaf!
     
  10. Teresa

    Teresa SoWal Guide Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2004
    Messages:
    24,912
    Likes Received:
    2,343
    Location:
    South Walton, FL
    Unbelievable. Yet very believable. And sad.
     
  11. Jdarg

    Jdarg SoWal Expert

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2005
    Messages:
    18,069
    Likes Received:
    1,960
    And just a little FYI- the parents of one of the 2016 superintendent candidates are all up in this (and it is not the Nicks). Isn't that swell?
     
  12. John G

    John G Beach Fanatic

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2014
    Messages:
    1,804
    Likes Received:
    297
    Its par for the course with our school district. Put out one fire, yet another starts. Too much to hide.

    Sad, but true...
     
  13. Danny Glidewell

    Danny Glidewell Beach Fanatic

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2008
    Messages:
    720
    Likes Received:
    549
    Location:
    Glendale
    Whatever the motivations of anyone complaining, the fact is that this represents shoddy educational practices because the material is not accurate. That the class is a World History class makes the inaccuracies more glaring. Would those defending this be so understanding if the lesson had said that Persians were Christian and Christian was inserted where Islam was written?
     
  14. poppy

    poppy Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2008
    Messages:
    2,858
    Likes Received:
    923
    Location:
    Miramar Beach
    Who is defending it?
     
  15. Jdarg

    Jdarg SoWal Expert

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2005
    Messages:
    18,069
    Likes Received:
    1,960
    Once again, accuracy is not the basis of their complaint.
     
  16. m1a1mg

    m1a1mg Beach Fanatic

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2014
    Messages:
    874
    Likes Received:
    241
    Location:
    Lost in the world
    “After studying ancient Persia and discussing contemporary ideas in world cultures, the example said, Allah is the one; Praise to him they all will cry; Islam is our life.”
     
  17. Matt J

    Matt J SWGB

    Joined:
    May 9, 2007
    Messages:
    21,910
    Likes Received:
    2,201
    The way I normally hear Jeysus pronounced around here it would violate the basic rules of a Haiku and is completely wrong.

    Here's an invocation for the next school board meeting:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjkwPK8HuKQ
     
  18. Zebraspots

    Zebraspots Beach Fanatic

    Joined:
    May 15, 2008
    Messages:
    840
    Likes Received:
    247
    Location:
    Santa Rosa Beach
    Ignorance pains me,
    Schools should increase all knowledge,
    Not just promote Jesus.
     
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2014
  19. Misty

    Misty Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2011
    Messages:
    2,787
    Likes Received:
    468
    Even if this were a legitimate argument, why are so called "Christians" afraid to learn about other religions? Who do these people think they are?

    No one has the right to indoctrinate another in any religion and teaching *any* religion is not a function of the public school system.

    It's a poem for cripes sake not a movement to force your children into praying to Allah.
     
  20. Danny Glidewell

    Danny Glidewell Beach Fanatic

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2008
    Messages:
    720
    Likes Received:
    549
    Location:
    Glendale
    Wait just a minute. "No one has the right to indoctrinate another in any religion..." If I read this right, Islam was being promoted or shown in a positive light, not Christianity. Isn't Islam a religion? So, if it is in fact wrong to indoctrinate YOUR children about Christianity, isn't it also wrong to indoctrinate MY children about Islam?
    I have no problem with teaching Islam, Judaism,Buddhism, Zoroastrianism,Paganism, Protestantism, Catholicism, Shintoism, Hinduism or any other "ism." All I want is fair, balanced and historically correct. A World History class must teach about different religions and how they have impacted the course of history. But make sure it is accurate.
     

Share This Page