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  1. Lake View Too

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    I like it!

    But, if we are seriously trying to design a restaurant, how about this idea, which came to me in a dream:

    I call it "842". It is a bar, with live music, mostly blues, and a restaurant. You pay a cover charge of $8.42 and then all your entrees are $8.42 (five steady entrees, just like Red Bar), and all your drinks are (you guessed it) $8.42. I have no idea if this is practical; I just liked the idea.
     
  2. poppy

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    Are you channeling Herman Cain? I always wondered if the gas station across from Walmart was originally a Herman Cain venture. It had gas priced at 9.99 for months before opening.
     
  3. shellak

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    Mexican would be great. Good mexican food that the locals can afford.
     
  4. kwalsh0001

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    Thai, or Asian, with emphasis on seafood entrees..... oohhh, yeah.....!!

    Please don't use the "F" word, and call it Asian Fusion...... that typically raises the price of the entrée by 40%, or so.....

    Seems as though there should be pretty good "margin" in offering Thai, even at a reasonable (non-tourist) price!
     
  5. Kayak Fish

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    I've eaten there, and stand by what I said. The people are nice and the food is solid enough, but the atmosphere isn't great.
     
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    Landlord is an arrogant jerk and lives in Watercolor. He could care less if a business goes under. Shame!
     
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    Then maybe it will sit empty for a few years, let roaches grow and multiply, maybe t,hen he will Mellow....just saying...
     
  8. Matt J

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    Going to a BBQ place for the atmosphere is liking going to a fine dining restaurant and asking for ketchup and ranch.
     
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    The problem is 10k a month on rent, nothing will make it unless it is a chef with a name. They would need to be 6k a month plus a percentage of the profit in order for it to make sense. Ethnic would be hard to do, although I am in the Asian and Burger businesseses. Asian wouldnt have a consistent draw and Burgers are over done. Honestly, I think a bad ass sportsbar with a bit of a twist might have a chance. I like steel's lounge idea, sports, music, simple quality food with some funky ethnic specials. Saturday tailgate's, Sunday bloody bar, bucket specials, daily specials, and a locals only lounge.
     
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    I was told that the 10K rent number being thrown around on this thread is not accurate. The rent is closer to $6500.
     
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    You have to apply the SoWal propaganda correction factor. In this case, SWigma = .65.
     
  12. 30aconcerned

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    That's exactly what I was thinking! And besides 98 BBQ is a very nice place to eat. The "ambiance" is the great food and friendly people. You just don 't find that everywhere these days.
     
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    It may be now! Really a good example of "Karma". Remember why The Smiling Fish lost its lease?
     
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    Landlord lives out of state, yeah, the rent is high, big change on the way!
     
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    Why? Or did smiling fish loose their lease...maybe it was their choose to leave
     
  16. Matt J

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    The price for the whole space is 10k/month.
     
  17. golden

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    People will pay for great seafood and that's what we need .. There is not a great seafood place on 30a..
     
  18. Lake View Too

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    I think there are several great seafood places on. 30-A. Everybody seems to love Stinky's and Cafe 30-A has excellent seafood dishes.
     
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    I am talking about a Dewey's Destin type restaurant that's great casual seafood ..we don't have this and Cafe 30a and Stinky's isn't the same and I love both of them ..
     
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    Captain Anderson ' s comes to 30a! I jest of course. Everyone says Nicks is good. I haven't ventured in mainly because I don't need patio furniture.
     

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