The traps along with controlling what attracts the flies in the first place sounds like a great strategy!
Pitching this to the local government and residents as an alternative to pesticide sounds like a plan.
Mosquito Control wants to spend $1.2 million for a new poison spray plane
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The traps along with controlling what attracts the flies in the first place sounds like a great strategy!
Pitching this to the local government and residents as an alternative to pesticide sounds like a plan.
Everyone who's still remotely tuned in 
, think about this:
The FDA regulates what goes into products, but not what chemical reactions occur from two (or more) "safe" chemicals once combined in a product.
For example:
A & B are "safe" chemicals on their own. The have the GRAS label on them. (Generally Regarded As Safe)
C is a known toxin. It is not allowed to be used the the formulation.
So the company adds chemical A & chemical B to the product. But the combination of the A & B into this product (& the chemical reaction that occurs) now make chemical C, which is a known toxin. But, now it is allowed because it is not regulated by the FDA, only the original chemicals were regulated.
This is a loophole the size of Texas. These chemical reactions occur in things like pesticides and in products used daily, like the creme you lovingly put on your face at night to prevent wrinkles. But there's nothing we can do about it....
Or can we? We can choose to go the safer route. We might not understand all the ins and outs of everything, but as long as we know that we are making better decisions, then we have a fighting chance of not opening Pandora's box in regards to the known or unknown side effects of these chemicals that we are told are safe and non-toxic.
Each of us has a choice. It doesn't mean that we will always get it right or do the right thing, but at least we're trying to get it instead of just giving in to what someone else says just because it's easier.
, think about this:The FDA regulates what goes into products, but not what chemical reactions occur from two (or more) "safe" chemicals once combined in a product.
For example:
A & B are "safe" chemicals on their own. The have the GRAS label on them. (Generally Regarded As Safe)
C is a known toxin. It is not allowed to be used the the formulation.
So the company adds chemical A & chemical B to the product. But the combination of the A & B into this product (& the chemical reaction that occurs) now make chemical C, which is a known toxin. But, now it is allowed because it is not regulated by the FDA, only the original chemicals were regulated.
This is a loophole the size of Texas. These chemical reactions occur in things like pesticides and in products used daily, like the creme you lovingly put on your face at night to prevent wrinkles. But there's nothing we can do about it....
Or can we? We can choose to go the safer route. We might not understand all the ins and outs of everything, but as long as we know that we are making better decisions, then we have a fighting chance of not opening Pandora's box in regards to the known or unknown side effects of these chemicals that we are told are safe and non-toxic.
Each of us has a choice. It doesn't mean that we will always get it right or do the right thing, but at least we're trying to get it instead of just giving in to what someone else says just because it's easier.
As I understand it, the skinprick test measures IgE reactions and is thus pretty good at teasing out hypersensitivity to common allergens (molds, pollens, cockroach, dust mites, dander, nuts, etc). It is cheap, convenient and uses a control to help validate results. That said, it is imperfect...I have seen people develop a nice wheal to tree nuts even though they ate them routinely, but all in all, it is a worthwhile test. That ELISA/ACT measures other antibodies that are not commonly thought to contribute to 'allergies' as we understand them, and it runs a small army of antigens guaranteeing some sort of 'result' that is of questionable import (except to the guy who owns the lab who will then try to sell you all manner of product to detoxify and live a shiny happy life!);-)
And since when is it abnormal for kids to have runny noses?
And since when is it abnormal for kids to have runny noses?
OM-What are some toxic products that take advantage of the FDA loophole?
Tupelo-STILL waiting to know which artificial sweetener is toxic and at what concentration
Tupelo-STILL waiting to know which artificial sweetener is toxic and at what concentration
As I understand it, the skinprick test measures IgE reactions and is (except to the guy who owns the lab who will then try to sell you all manner of product to detoxify and live a shiny happy life!);-)
And since when is it abnormal for kids to have runny noses?
OM-What are some toxic products that take advantage of the FDA loophole?
Tupelo-STILL waiting to know which artificial sweetener is toxic and at what concentration
Shiny happy life? As in poo-poo that slides out happily & easily?
Not a runny nose like this one.... it was GGGRRRROOOSSSSSSSS and it never stopped!!!!!
Get back to you manana about the rest. Mr. OM is home and this is our date time. I'm off for the night!
Maybe y'all can help me figure this out. I have tomato plants in old whiskey barrels (2 years out of the distillery, so they were pretty aromatic last year). They are producing fruit that are the size of OMBs when I see them one day and double in size in a few days. There are so many! I have not fed or sprayed them with anything.
I wonder if the mosquito spray gave them some sort of unatural growth spurt?
Or do you think it is the bourbon leaching out of the wood? Can they be considered organic if raised on leached bourbon?;-)
I wonder if the mosquito spray gave them some sort of unatural growth spurt?
Or do you think it is the bourbon leaching out of the wood? Can they be considered organic if raised on leached bourbon?;-)
Maybe y'all can help me figure this out. I have tomato plants in old whiskey barrels (2 years out of the distillery, so they were pretty aromatic last year). They are producing fruit that are the size of OMBs when I see them one day and double in size in a few days. There are so many! I have not fed or sprayed them with anything.
I wonder if the mosquito spray gave them some sort of unatural growth spurt?
Who cares. Just send me some.
Skunky, I read your post about wanting to share the comparisons of the bell curve with us for the life span of humans vs the bell curve of application of pesticides. I am curious to see how the bell curve of reported cases of cancer compares to the the application of the pesticides as well.
Finally, a quick comment regarding the evils of allopathic cures versus 'natural remedies';I can't think of ANY industry as poorly regulated as the natural remedy market. Essentially, as long as they put a statement on the label that they do not promise to 'diagnose or cure' any condition as well as 'these satements have not been evaluated by the FDA' , they can bottle and sell just about anything. Go on and look in your medicine cabinet, all the bottles are labeled as such. I will contend until the day I die that there is nothing 'safe' about some herbal remedy whose source, purity, manufacture, content, efficacy and understanding of long term implications of use are not regulated by anyone other than the manufacturer. Yet, the 'herbs' are 'natural', ergo safer. That makes zero sense to me.
I am so glad you brought this up, Skunky. The natural food and vitamin industry has been trying to get the FDA to test their products for years, but they, unlike the pharmaceutical industry, do not have high powered lobbyists getting paid HUGE bucks. The pharmaceutical companies don't want you to eat healthy foods, because the pharmaceutical companies would lose billions, with a b, dollars in sales. I think the studies on marijuana would fall into this category, too. It seems that anytime the medicinal benefits of marijuana are brought up in the health industry, the gov't steps in and says that they don't have studies supporting the benefits. Hello, that might be because they are not allowing the studies to be conducted, "because marijuana is illegal." Give me a break. They will let the pharmaceutical companies test all kinds of crazy drugs like Oxycontin, but they won't allow studies on marijuana because it is illegal.
You do the math. They will allow studies on THC, the beneficial chemical in marijuana, but that is only because the pharmaceutical companies make it. Follow the money trail, and you will find pharmaceutical companies, not vitamin companies and soap makers.