NCAA Football Picking Contest XII

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  1. Bac

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    Missouri +14
    Nebraska +18
    Texas A& M +27
    TCU
    Kentucky
    Oregon
    Wisconsin
    Washington State
    Louisville

    Under 58 points Notre Dame @ Wake Forest
     
  2. Beach Runner

    Beach Runner beats on hood

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    EVERYONE, WASHINGTON STATE @ USC IS TONIGHT AT 10:30 EASTERN TIME TONIGHT.
     
  3. Lady D

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    Who wouldn't? I would go against my team and pick Florida myself.
     
  4. Beach Runner

    Beach Runner beats on hood

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    So because anyone who picked GA with 14 and they won by 14, no one won the GA @ Mizzou game. Maybe you should consider non-integer point spreads, Skunky.
     
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    People who picked Missouri didn't win the point either or did they? Thinking they did.
     
  6. Bob Wells

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    Georgia covered the spread.
     
  7. Lady D

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    That's what I thought but Skunky said we would have to had a 15 pt spread for Georgia to win the point. Maybe it was 14.5.
     
  8. Beach Runner

    Beach Runner beats on hood

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    Because the spread was 14, it means that Georgia gave Missouri 14 points. The actual score was 43-29. But because the pickems gave Mizzou 14 points, the SoWal score is 43-43, so a tie. Everyone won, or either everyone lost. It was never stated that ties go to the home team. The spread should not be an integer so that ties are impossible.
     
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    Understand now. Was a tie. Wish there were 14-15 games a week.
     
  10. 30A Skunkape

    30A Skunkape Mr. Small Box

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    WEEK IV RESULTS

    Controversy swirls regarding point spreads! BR says use integers, whatever those are. Sounds alot easier to simply give everyone credit for UGA/Missouri. Several people got high total for the week, which was eight correct picks.

    WEEKLY RESULTS

    aTm Mom 8
    Carson 8
    cnestg8r 8
    Kurt 8
    Beach Runner 7
    Skunkape 7
    Bac 5
    Lady D 4
    Bob Wells 3
    Red Dog I 3

    SEASON TOTALS

    cnestg8r 35
    aTm Mom 32
    Bob Wells 32
    Kurt 32
    Skunkape 32
    Red Dog I 26
    Bac 25
    Beach Runner 23
    Carson 23
    Lady D 21

    Drew Lock threw for 221 yards this week, has a season total of 1283 yards
    Jake Fromm threw for 260 yards, has a season total of 739 yards

    Of note, our two notable guest pickers Sun Chaser and Lou Holtz remain on the schneid, both missing on the Louisiana Tech upset.

    Any errors, of course, call it out. Next week's games coming soon.
     
  11. Kurt Lischka

    Kurt Lischka Admin Staff Member

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    Point spreads are for professionals who bet money.
     
  12. Bob Wells

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    I told you karma would get me
     
  13. Beach Runner

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    Point spreads are for people betting money. If there's a house, the house wins in case of a tie. But we aren't betting money, nor do we have a house. I said we should NOT use integer spreads. Spreads that are noninteger, say 16.5, make it impossible for there to be a tie because a team can't score a half of a point. The reason that cnestg8r used spreads is that there are certain teams that our pickers like, but if we had A&M at Alabama with not points, everyone would probably pick Bama. Then there would be no differentiation between the pickers. When virtually everyone picks the same team for a game, it's not interesting. The only way to avoid this without points is to pick games that are expected to be close. That would not be interesting if we didn't care about the teams playing that game.
     
  14. 30A Skunkape

    30A Skunkape Mr. Small Box

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    WEEK V SCHEDULE

    I will have spread games from now on with half points (or non-integers if you prefer:D). BR is correct, we need the point spread games or else everyone would pick Georgia this week, for example. By popular request, a very busy and interesting slate this week.

    Thursday 9/27/18

    UNC at Miami (-18.5) (The U, not the Ohio)

    Friday 9/28/18

    UCLA at Colorado(-10.5)

    Saturday 9/29/18

    Syracuse at Clemson(-22.5)
    West Virginia at Texas Tech
    Virginia at NC State
    Texas at Kansas State
    Old Dominion at East Carolina
    Tennessee at Georgia(-31.5)
    Florida State at Louisville
    Florida at Mississippi State
    Virginia Tech at Duke
    South Carolina at Kentucky
    Ohio State at Penn State
    Stanford at Notre Dame
    Ole Miss at LSU(-11.5)
    Oregon at California
    :drink:
     
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    I'm in the cellar again. No surprise there. Thanks for the extra games btw.
     
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    UNC at Miami (-18.5) (The U, not the Ohio)

    UCLA at Colorado(-10.5)

    Syracuse at Clemson(-22.5)
    West Virginia
    at Texas Tech
    Virginia at NC State
    Texas at Kansas State
    Old Dominion at East Carolina
    Tennessee at Georgia(-31.5)
    Florida State
    at Louisville
    Florida at Mississippi State
    Virginia Tech at Duke
    South Carolina at Kentucky
    Ohio State
    at Penn State
    Stanford at Notre Dame
    Ole Miss at LSU(-11.5)
    Oregon
    at California

    ROLL TIDE!
     
  17. Bac

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    Some good points here, so let’s make a few others.

    1) The House ( I know we don’t have one...) does not win in case of a “ point spread” tie ...(like +/- 14 in the Missouri game)
    - It’s called a PUSH, or sometimes a NO BET
    - Anyone presenting their ticket to the betting window will get their money refunded, irrespective of which side the bettor bet on...but of course, not everyone will remember to take their ticket to the window to request their refund...( in which case, the House WILL win )


    2) Point Spreads ( whether 13.5, 14, or 14.5 blah, blah, blah ) are set these days by computers...and are designed to take into account literally hundreds of factors...like weather, injuries, QB ‘ family issues’, revenge for last time loss, blah, blah, blah)
    - The House ( I know we do not have one) examines all the “ situational factors” , and how they might affect the game, to set the lines
    - Generally speaking, they realize people living in the largest cities, or even smaller—But with avid fans— will go “ hog wild “to bet their favorite teams ( no offense intended for Arkansas ) , so they set the lines at a number where they think they are most likely to get their share of the vig
    - And , generally speaking, unsuspecting bettors ( like you and me...) will simply bet the FAVORITES and/or the “ OVERS” in games...the lines are set accordingly...whether NCAAFB, Professional or College —-basketball, baseball, football .....whatever...

    All that said, thinking 2019 we can get a lot of people in the SoWal “ pool “ , and will propose how.

    But, in the meantime, my picks...
     
  18. Bac

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    Miami -18.5
    Colorado-10.5
    Syracuse + 22.5
    Texas Tech
    NC State
    Texas
    Old Dominion
    Tennessee +31.5
    Louisville
    Mississippi State
    Duke
    Kentucky
    Ohio State
    Stanford
    LSU
    California
     
  19. Bac

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    Oops

    LSU -11.5 ...good example of not specifying the point spread... could be interpreted several ways... so now clarified
     
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    Thursday 9/27/18

    UNC

    Friday 9/28/18

    Colorado(-10.5)

    Saturday 9/29/18

    Syracuse
    West Virginia
    NC State
    Texas
    East Carolina
    Georgia(-31.5)
    Louisville
    Florida
    Duke
    Kentucky
    Penn State
    Stanford
    Ole Miss
    Oregon
     

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