No Representation

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  1. Danny Glidewell

    Danny Glidewell Beach Fanatic

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    So the District 2 county commissioner appointed the District 2 representative to the planning commission this morning at the BCC meeting. The new planning commissioner is from Santa Rosa Beach. What this means is that there is no representative from the North End period.

    Here is the "north end" representative:

    John W. Roberts | John W. Roberts, Attorney at Law

    Please remind me which part of the county has absolutely no representation. Because I keep hearing people claim the north runs everything. That is a sick joke. The north does not have even token representation and absolutely no one in power cares.
     
  2. Patriot Games

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    But the people who put him there are from the north end. I'm sorry your District 2 commissioner is owned by the SBA, she had to put an SBA member on there because they told her to. I'm sorry your Districts representation was up for bid and hey, didn't you want a "LAWYER" for citizen representation? (SARCASM INTENDED) So do you think he will listen to the citizens or the lawyers and developers at planning commission meetings? Danny call Cecelia and tell her you are a volunteer for the board and remind her how many votes you got from people who support you. See what she says, even better, write her and post her response. I thought you had to live or own property in the District you represented unless you were appointed to an "at large" position?:dunno:

    Remind her that she can un-appoint and re-appoint any time she choses.
     
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  3. Bob Hudson

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    Guess there are no Small Business Alliance members in her district. She also seemed to reverse her position concerning "new blood" as she also appointed him to the Code Enforcement Board. No candidate from the north in her district.

    Her constituents now have no representation on two volunteer boards!
     
  4. John G

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    She's just keeping it classy...

    Thanks C. Jones.
     
  5. Danny Glidewell

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    As I continue to point out, the voters in the North did not cause this problem but we are sure paying for it. Now that the "volunteer" boards have been adjusted, the common citizen has almost no representation. North or South common citizen. Someone needs to be on these boards who will ask hard questions and enforce the law.
     
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    This forum is amusing and confusing for someone from the outside who has vacationed in South Walton all my life. It does seem that the "leaders" seem to have an agenda to control and restrict what goes on in South Walton. Small business seems to be the enemy, yet the business community has driven the economy of the area. It also seems that anyone who lives north of the bay is little more than an annoying redneck.
     
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  7. John G

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    Liz:

    Let me try to summarize this all for you.

    Walton County has a very corrupted local government.

    Those doing the corrupting have ties to people in very high places within Law Enforcement, Regional and State Government.

    Developers and several individuals in positions of power have control of the County and MOST of its elected officials.

    South Walton, and let's just be frank, the BEACHES, are the cash cow that keeps this little North Florida (sometimes Southern Alabama) County running.

    Without the beaches there is NOTHING.

    The powers that be have had to change their process in the money grabbing due to several local individuals that have been brave enough to stand up to them and call B.S. on several things, not the least of which is the sad excuse for a Board of County Commissioners, all but one of whom is corrupted (IMO).

    Our County operates it daily business as it it were the 1800's and not 2015. It's a prime example of; It's not WHAT you know, but WHO you know. That's how dozens upon dozens of related family members have County Jobs and they can't articulate themselves out of a wet paper bag, let alone account for money.

    The criminal element is in a full panic as they are having to quickly adjust their schemes due to cover their tracks. They recruit small business owners to create a Front Operation that allows a PAC to operate under the guise of a group that fights for the rights of the little guy. All the while, supporting the Big Guy and Crooks.

    As for the Redneck Comment, while our area is diverse with many different life style choices and appearances, most of the people that post on this site are well educated and well spoken. They are true friends to this community. This is not a battle of North vs. South. Its a fight of good vs. evil. Unfortunately, the evil is winning.
     
  8. Danny Glidewell

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    Well, as one of the "annoying rednecks," I certainly see how you get those impressions. Reality is that the business community is very important to this area as in any other area of the country. Small business is the backbone of any thriving community and we certainly need more small businesses in the county. What is controversial here is the "small business association" that in fact promotes an agenda that favors large developers and seems to be attempting to control the county government. There is also a "NIMBY" group who have their piece of paradise and often seem to have a "no vacancy" sign out for everyone else. They are vocal far in excess of their real strength. But thankfully there is a majority of citizens who want the county to grow responsibly and want everyone to prosper. How we achieve those common goals is often the fly in the ointment. Our real problem going forward is getting that majority to the polls and educating them on who has their best interests at heart.
     
  9. Danny Glidewell

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    John G, IMHO the word "corrupt" is thrown around far too much these days. A difference of opinion or goals does not equate corruption. It is far more effective to present facts and let citizens draw their own conclusions about whether individuals are corrupt, inept, ignorant or just wrong. To do otherwise is to run the risk of being dismissed as the "boy who cried wolf."
     
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    Vacationed here all your life? Wow! Impressive! Have you ever actually lived here and participated in local government? If not....from this "redneck" living north of the bay, I'd say, you don't have a dog in this fight. Enjoy your vacation!!
     
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    cor·rupt
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    adjective
    1. 1.
      having or showing a willingness to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain.
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      synonyms: dishonest, unscrupulous, dishonorable, unprincipled, unethical,amoral, untrustworthy, venal, underhanded, double-dealing, fraudulent, bribable, criminal, illegal, unlawful, nefarious; More

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      (of a text or a computer database or program) made unreliable by errors or alterations.
    verb
    1. 1.
      cause to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain.
      "there is a continuing fear of firms corrupting politicians in the search for contracts"

    2. 2.
      change or debase by making errors or unintentional alterations.
      "Epicurus's teachings have since been much corrupted"
      synonyms: alter, tamper with, interfere with, bastardize, debase, adulterate
      "the apostolic writings had been corrupted"
     
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  12. liz coats

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    My parents live in Walton county and until recently also owned a home on 30A. I still visit them regularly. I also suspect that some of the more vocal zealots who post on this forum aren't full time residents either so I suppose it's a matter of opinion who has a dog in the fight. But I really appreciate you pointing out that I'm one of those who is no longer welcome. I did manage to earn a college degree, however so I'm a reasonably well educated redneck.
     
  13. Andy A

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    John G, either grow up and realize not all Walton County residents have your opinion of our local government or move to some place closer to your liking. Your attitude regarding our county is a pain to some of us and without any merit. You are right about one thing. Most who post here are educated and knowlegeable and definitely don't need you to tell us the meaning of "corrupt".
     
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    I am certifiably a full time resident. I never said you weren't welcome in fact, I said just the opposite. I did say enjoy your vacation. I just think the majority of your comments about people who actually live and post here are cynical at best particularly since you don't live, work or vote here. None of this has anything to do with you.
     
  15. Patriot Games

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    Danny I appreciate your openness to speak out online as a former candidate and someone who is known and respected in the county. But ask yourself have you or any of the concerned citizens from the North came to a BCC meeting and spoke out publicly against some of these shenanigans and stood at the podium. Or do you see what the few (mostly from the south) who have spoke at the podium about their dis-pleasures have suffered. Even numerous county employee's have been axe'd for not going along to get along. Until it's brought to the podium, it's really just venting online. Those who don't demand better government will surely never have it. I guess I'm guilty too. Remember it's our right to speak out and it's most effective when done at a public meeting not online. Also remember the constitution wasn't written to empower the government, rather it was written to empower the people with rights and protect them from their own government. I also think we all strive for Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and if you're an american you believe everyone deserves it. In Walton county SOMETIMES the rules only apply to the connected or anointed and there-in lies the problem. I don't mind having rules, I mind they are not the same for everyone.
     
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    Oh Andy... While not all share my opine on the County, more and more are now pondering the idea. The events of 2015 have only strengthened that.

    You believe what you want and I'll do the same on my end.

    We'll see who's right and who's wrong in the future.
     
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    Is there a D.Trump relative around to ask the tough questions ?
     
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    Patriot Games,

    Back in the day when Danny still worked for the Sheriff's Department from McMillan forward, I was his worst critic. I hated that Quinn could openly defy the law while his Deputies remained mute and turned the other cheek because they needed a paycheck. It still galls me to this day that there are still those drawing a paycheck from County Government that do the same. If I was ever put in the position of drawing a paycheck and telling the truth my family would starve to death but that's me. I don't expect that others would do the same and I want to say I understand but the reality is I don't. I think truth is the only real moral fiber anyone ever has. Once it's compromised it will always be tainted.

    With that said and in Danny's defense, he has done an 80 degree turn (can't say 100%) in what he will say publicly and his actions today are not what they would have been 20 years ago. He is involved and he does speak out (probably cost him his bid as a County Commissioner) and he does want to see change that is good for all of us and not just some of us. I still don't agree with him on every issue and he knows how I feel about his past but I have found common ground which in all fairness even I didn't think existed. Danny could have been appointed to any number of those boards but today because he asks tough questions and speaks out when he disagrees he probably couldn't even get appointed..

    C. Jones got just exactly what she wanted on those boards....someone to do her bidding, someone that will go along to get along. Stay tuned...the damage that can be done will be done with C. Jones and she has the SA and the political clout to set this county back 20 years!
     
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  19. Danny Glidewell

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    Patriot Games, I have been to the podium and I have put my name on the ballot as well as talking and writing to various commissioners. I have no problem standing for what I believe or saying what I think. But I also work not to make politics personal or hold ill will towards anyone because we disagree on an issue. In politics today's enemy is often tomorrow's ally and vice versa. My goal has always been to have a minimum of rules, for those rules to be clearly written and fairly enforced. I do not like feel good ordinances that are unenforceable and I do not like the rules to apply to individuals differently. I believe if something is a rule it should be enforced baring a clear, precise public need for a variance. And I do not like kicking problems down the road.
     
  20. Patriot Games

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    Look Danny I'm not saying you don't do more than 95% of citizens already do. But I would say you are still little known in the South end by your vote tally's. I am guilty of rarely watching the Defuniak BCC meeting online, but I always watch the southern one because that's where the deals are done and the rubber meets the road often. But the simple fact is you need more exposure in the south and that's where you need to be speaking out at. I think you are a good viable candidate for your District and I personally would vote for you now. More groups down here need to know what your all about, I believe you truly understand what has to change in local government and understand that no private organizations should have control of government other than the people and their elected representatives. You've admittedly seen it done the wrong way and acknowledged that was wrong, I believe that knowledge and experience is the very thing needed to change it. People who don't acknowledge and respect history are doomed to repeat it. Don't believe me, watch when Scott Brannon runs for office again. Please stay passionate long enough to go do something about it again at the next election in two years. If you start now you can make it or you'll make Jones so nervous that even she will do the right thing, sometimes peer pressure is a good thing when it comes to enforcing standards.
     

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