Petition to Ban Confederate Flag from Walton County Courthouse

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  1. Lake View Too

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    mputnal3 was just talking about mental illness and this photo appeared on my screen. Coincidence? I think not. You have to be a sad excuse for a human being to take pride in your hatred.
     
  2. mputnal

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    Lake View Too, You are a wonderful human being I am sure but you are not superior to me or any other person who has Southern Pride. The only hatred I feel is from those in this forum who are very good at judging and maybe hating others who do not agree with them.

    Teresa I am all for flying the flag of understanding and honor but for you to believe that ALL people who fly the confederate flag for hatred and bigotry is not very understanding or even correct. I do agree with you about the debate. It was eye opening for me to feel all the hatred toward Southern Pride and realize that we as a nation have a long way to go before we heal from the wounds of the Civil War if ever. I think many people are just so dang reactive that they will not allow themselves to stop and think about what they are saying. Just read all the posts and tell me what side of this debate does hatred exist.
     
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    Do you feel the people in that photo Poppy posted are mentally ill? I never said I was superior to anybody. And yes, I am judging the KKK based on the statements and actions they support. You are defending a flag that represents bigotry and treason. And I do have southern pride that has nothing to do with the Confederacy. That flag has nothing to do with being proud to be a southerner.
     
  4. mputnal

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    Poppy, you are so good at finding pictures of hatred and trying to connect hatred to Southern Pride. If I were you're first grade teacher I would give you an A+.

    Why must you believe that everyone who has Southern Pride is a member of such a vile group of people like the KKK? Why do you believe that you know me? Why all this hatred toward Southern Heritage? Has someone hurt you? If I have hurt you in some way then I apologize.
     
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    You called me a "sad excuse for a human being". Who feels superior over the other?
     
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    This thread has shown me that while alot of people accuse southern people that fly the Confederate flag of being racist against black Americans that they are just as racist against Southern Americans.
     
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    Lake View Too, I have no idea how to define mental illness but I am pretty sure the young boy who went into that church and killed all those people must be. That is my primary point in that we do not know how to detect and treat mental illness if that in fact is the cause because this keeps happening over and over.

    I do not know one person who was a member of the KKK so I can not answer that question. My opinion would be that they are pretty weak in character for sure.
     
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    I didn't say ALL people anything. Please stop putting words (ALL people) and emotions (hatred and bigotry) into other people's posts. Just because I believe that we should honor and respect all people by not flying the flag in our public court house lawn does not mean that I've therefore judged all who fly that flag privtely or publicly. In fact, I've asked you many times to PLEASE fly your own flag. FLY it proudly!

    You either agree or disagree. No one is asking you to do either.
     
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    When did a a geographical region or a culture become a race?
     
  10. mputnal

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    Teresa, I apologize. You never said ALL people who fly the confederate flag are racists and bigots. I guess I feel ganged up on and did not take time to read your words correctly. Haste makes waste and my statement was incorrect about that.
     
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    mputnal3: just to clear things up, I was referring to the people in that photo, the KKK, when I said "you have to be a sad excuse for a human being"... It was the general use of the word "you". You, on the other hand, just seem misguided in this idea that southern pride should be linked to the Confederacy and the Confederate flag. I was born in the South, I was enthralled with the Civil War, when I was a child, and, as I grew more mature, and was able to look at that era of history, I have been increasingly disgusted with the entirely senseless nature of that war, more than any other war that I have ever studied. I just came back from Franklin, Tennessee several weeks ago, and I was simply appalled at a graphic description of the insanity of the Battle of Franklin. To try to attach some honor and pride to this dismal era of American history is perpetuating the insanity. We can read about it in history books, but why try to live it, over and over again, as we try to move forward into the 21st Century. I apologize if you misconstrued my words to mean you harbor hatred, but an overwhelming majority of the people who fly that flag harbor hatred. And you need to understand what that means to your image of the Confederacy.
     
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    Apparently it happened on this thread. It seems many of you prefer (not Teresa) to believe that if you have any amount of Southern Pride that you are a racists and a bigot (Poppy, Lake View Too, yourself, Jdarg etc.) I have been accused of ignorance, racism, bigotry, hatred and on and on. Just go back and read the posts and I believe you will see the evolution of a new race of "Southern Americans".
     
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    Google "cultural racism"then get back to me..
     
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    I respect your position and accept your apology. I just happen to disagree with you on the issue. It is okay. I do understand you now. It is a sensitive area and I do not take it lightly that some people are offended by the confederate flag. I would never fly that flag in public and I do not believe the courthouse should either. Those good people of that church has somehow forgiven the killer. I have always respected all colors but because of that ability to forgive they are probably superior to me as I am not sure I could do that so readily.
     
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    Paranoia is a form of mental illness.
     
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    Southern pride is not a flag. It is our lives and how we live them. No one has accused you or anyone here. I believe I agree very much with you overall, except when you accuse others of accusing others.
     
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    I agree with you but probably from the opposite perspective!
     
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    Yes, I do have a tendency to get carried away with defending my position which is not a good thing in a forum such as this. I think ALL humans have the ability to get along with each other but sometimes we allow emotional weakness and misunderstood words offend us instead of listening and learning. This forum is a good thing in being allowed to evolve in our abilities to communicate. I am sure I have a ways to go.
     
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    I came over here for a break damn it. But..nooooooooooooooooooo.
     
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    I don't think there is anything inherently wrong, bigoted, or predjudice with bashing a culture. It depends on the culture. There are some really lousy ones out there, but people can change their views. Race is something people cannot change, and there is no reason to think that they should.
     
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