Save the Music

Discussion in 'Music and Nightlife' started by keithj621, Oct 6, 2008.

  1. scooterbug44

    scooterbug44 SoWal Expert

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    I really can't feel sorry for these people - there were bars and restaurants at those locations long before they bought a house there. Music times, volumes, and frequency of performances may have changed, but that's life!

    Same as the folks who buy near an airport and biatch about planes or the %^&*@ people who bought near the Red Bar, then complained about the noise and made them shut it down early.

    Neighbors made the mistake of complaining about our dog barking when Grandma Scooterbug was visiting (it was actually her dog) and she marched up the street and told them this was a neighborhood w/ children and dogs and if they couldn't handle it, maybe it was time to find a retirement home!
     
  2. seagrovegirl

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    Eden State Gardens can be noisy especially diring the wedding season. I have been in bed at 11:30 PM and heard the band/dj word for word...I did not like it but did not complain since it was someone's wedding...but some common curtesy would be appreciated.

    Salty Dog is in a neighborhood and should act accordingly and be respectful of that..IMO
     
  3. John R

    John R needs to get out more

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    The noise complaint was filed by Steve Rappaport, who moved with his family to their home in 2003. At the time, the establishment was known as the Salty Dog and it was just a restaurant, he said. Then it came under new management and changed its name to Snapperhead - and with that came the music with the thumping bass that is Rappaport's main complaint.


    According to Rappaport, no noise ordinance was in place when the live music started, and it took about two years to get one passed. Deputies were supposed to use sound meters to gauge the noise level, he said, but no deputies in South Walton know how to use them.

    so, no one really can prove that the decibel level was beyond the limit, and Mr. Steeno has a potential unlawful arrest suit on his hands. Thanks to rappaport.
     
  4. Blue Lew

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    Save the music!!!

    :cool: Having been a working musician all my life, the "noise ordinance issue" is nothing new to me! I have one major question to ask of the people who protest the "Noise" - how about the people who work at night and sleep during the day??? Not only us "lowly" musicians, but night auditors, hotel/motel/resort night workers, taxi drivers, custodial workers, doctors and nurses on night shifts, restaurant workers, and even policemen and firefighters on the graveyard shift! This list could go on forever! And yet, those of us who's professions cause us to have to sleep during the day have absolutely no recourse when it comes to the "noise ordinace issue"!!! Should we arrest construction workers who start hammering and sawing at 7am? Or the guy mowing his lawn early in the morning in order to avoid heat stroke later in the day? Or the kids playing outside after breakfast? Or the Sanitation Workers emptying dumpsters? Because WE CAN'T SLEEP??? Another list that could go on and on!!! The simple fact is that most of the local people who go out to be entertained by the excellent music our area has to offer work during the day themselves and can't go out to hear the music in the middle of the morning or afternoon!!! Which is WHY, folks, that most music is performed at night!!!!! DUH! There is always room for compromise and we just need to find it! For now, Blue Lew and I, Nora Wixted-Hogue, will be there on Sunday afternoon marching and playing along with our highly respected colleagues!!! Music is one of the best gifts in life and should be treasured by all!!! See you there! :violin:PLAY ON!
     
  5. bchtravlr

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    We definitely need to fix this

    I learned a lot more about this issue last night and what is happening!

    I understand that a resident near Salty Dog is driving this! They are actually calling around to get some petition signed. They are even calling lot owners, who don't even have houses on their property!

    And since when does the Sheriff's department haul off a person to spend the night in jail for a misdemeaner, especially when he was a temporary manager, and had no input into the operation of the joint.

    I hope he goes after the county and not only gets this removed from his record but gets those in authority to acutally follow the law!
     
  6. Smiling JOe

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    Just wait until Code Enforcement starts trying to monitor light.
     
  7. seagrovegirl

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    *^$^*@#$@$ GROAN...........:bang:
     
  8. keithj621

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    Looks like Sunday will be an eventful day. Just wanted to let everyone know that a bus will run between Pandora's and Salty Dog from 6:30 pm to 10:30 pm. Don't worry about getting back to your car. See you Sunday.:clap:
     
  9. Blue Lew

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    Thank You!

    :cool: What a wonderful addition to Sunday's events especially because some musicians might have alot to carry!!! Including wives/husbands/children/instruments/etc.! could use a ride! Not to mention bands getting back for gigs in time and maybe even some folks who could make it up but not down!!! Thank you and all your friends for such insight! :clap:
     
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    :roll: I am surprised that these deputies and their supervisors cant take the 10 minutes (if that) that it takes to learn to use a Db meter. I am the proud owner of a competition vehicle that can play music at right around 135 Db. I have many trophies and all that, but it took me about 5 minutes to learn how to mount and adjust the mics used for measuring SPL (sound pressure level) & decibels. If they need someone to train them I am sure that for a nominal fee the person that runs those competitions would be happy to show them. Do not take this as being for the ordinance because I WILL be there on the march supporting the local musicians. But I can tell you that the music would have to be pretty loud to even measure ANYTHING on a Db meter outside of the Salty Dog. They are very sensitive instruments and while I have thought that my vehicle was "quaking" it didnt even come close on the meter. Maybe the excuse of "not knowing how to use them" is just because they know that the noise levels dont come anywhere close to being illegal.
     
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    I would like to report a noise nuisance this morning. My neighbor was disturbing my peace with his lawn mower. Could not even hear the birds on my back porch.
     
  12. sunspotbaby

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    Bump...Hope there is a great turnout today-I can't get there.

    Rock on SoWal! Loud & Proud! :cool:
     
  13. Big Daddy 'O'

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    saving music saves JOBS

    Big Daddy 'O' here'

    Lets face it 30a caters mostly to tourist. Most love music and that gives musicians work and service people work and brings revenue to the area. There has to be a compromise! Please folks keep the music alive. I wish I was there to do the March. My thoughts and prayers are with all of you.
     
  14. bluemtnrunner

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    I make more noise than these bands while watching Tampa Bay Bucs kick butt. There has to be enforcement based on proof of violation, doesn't there? I mean, if you were driving down the road and weaved, they couldn't take you in unless you failed the breathalizer (or refused it). What's up with that?

    I love this bit from the WJHG article: This group, known to locals as the Waco Ramblers what does that mean????
    that is the name of the band....not an alias known only to the people who live on 30A. They are known in Birmingham as the Waco Ramblers too.
     
  15. wrobert

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    I guess it would be helpful to know just exactly what was being charged. If the guy was arrested and bonded out, that indicates some sort of a criminal charge was made. The noise ordinance in Walton County is a civil infraction and I do not believe it goes to criminal until you are given three tickets. The civil infraction is the one that requires the certified sound measurements at certain locations and certain times of the day. If it was a criminal disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace charge, that is going to be the deputies case to make based on what was happening at the time.

    At least this is the way I understand it.
     
  16. Kurt Lischka

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    Jeremiah (Red Rocket) announces to the assembled what is the purpose and the goal.
    Looks like about 100 people just leaving from Pandora's on a beautiful afternoon for a walk.
     
  17. steele mama

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    Sweet. :wub:
     
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    The Lost Wages Marching Band performs

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    More than 100 supporters of the local music scene marched down CR30A in a peaceful protest. :D
     
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    You have my support!

    Drove by this afternoon. Waved and honked to show our support. Keep at it guys! :clap:
     
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    Bravo to all! What an honor to be a part of such a great event!
     

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