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Some Walton County Guidance Counselors Not Certiidfied

Discussion in 'Local Government and Groups' started by Bravo 1, Aug 21, 2014.

  1. Bravo 1

    Bravo 1 Beach Comber

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    Does anyone have the skinny on this? I had a call this evening and the caller stated there is one in the south and two in Defuniak Springs that are not certified. Does anyone have additional information on this?
     
  2. Bob Wells

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    From who and for what purpose?
     
  3. Bravo 1

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    Heard from a friend whose son has not had a counselor that is certified for now the 4th year. not sure of the school combo yet will hopefully have a better grasp by weekend. However I have to believe that in these times a guidance counselor can be hired that has all the needed certification especially in a county that pays as well as Walton.
     
  4. DaleDalbey

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    Does Walton County have a better pay scale than Okaloosa or Bay? If true, someone has been lying to me.
     
  5. Bob Wells

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    Based on instructional scales I just googled for the 3
    Walton 35400-62500 over 29 years
    Bay 34380-58180 over 31 years
    Okaloosa 33459-68279 over 30 years

    Note: There are other factors to consider besides wages and I did not look at them. Examples are incentives, reimbursements for classroom materials, outside of school functions required to attend and cost of insurance, to name a few that come to my mind.
     
  6. Bob Hudson

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    Thanks Bob

    Did you compare the steps between Minimum and Maximum over the years of service ?

    I'm told Walton is pre loaded in the early years and then the scales of Okaloosa begin to outstrip Walton County. In some respects there is a "donut hole " in Walton's scale similar to Medicare.

    I'm also told that Walton County is heavily loaded to "new teachers" with the number of teachers in the higher steps is dismal.

    I am also interested in your thoughts on the "claim" that a change in the process is the first step in the teachers union taking over the school system.
     
  7. Bob Wells

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    No Bob I just took a quick glance at the numbers and put them out there based on what I found online. As for the other stuff I do not know but it is reported we don't keep teachers very long.
    If, and I mean a big if, the teachers wanted to take control of the school system they would really need to get on the same bus. Unfortunately, because of our personal politics we are not as united as we could be. Does that mean we are irrelevant, I don' think so, but at the same time we have to pick our battles and build relationships even with those we may not have a lot in common with. Working across the the spectrum of politics doesn't mean we agree on everything as you and I can attest. We may not agree on much but when we do, Stay Thirsty My Friend...
     
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    This is not surprising. In the last four years, quite a few teachers were hired to teach out of their field. It's funny that some former teachers were not hired to fill positions in their field but that seems to be the way our current superintendent wants to handle things.
     
  9. Bravo 1

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    I have an Update on two of the positions new hire at Emerald Coast and Walton High School are both not certified which might be worse than the Finance Dept since they deal with students futures as well as emotional well being for instance a young person that is suicidal or in an abusive relationship. This is not healthy for our children. I find it odd that you have a district that pays very well and offers a virtual paradise in quality of living cant attract certified personnel. Will hopefully have the 3rd school by Monday at the latest. Parents need to wake up.
     
  10. DaleDalbey

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    Bravo, This is an issue I am concerned about, but not knowledgable. Is it legal to hire uncertified teachers? What are the rules ? How can we get it changed? If it is not legal, whose responsibility is it to hold people accountable?
     
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    The superintendent and school board as well as the principal who do the hiring should be held responsible. There is a built in mechanism that allows the board to challenge the superintendent to the governor if I understand correctly, the other thing they can do is have the courage for 3 of them to start voting against these ghastly personnel recommendations, after all THESE BOARD MEMBER VOTED FOR these two counselors. If the info I have on the 3rd one is correct you will have possible issues of nepotism as well as not being certified. This should be addressed by the board immediately.
     
  12. Matt J

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    Does certification cover Walton County Values? Let's keep our eye on the prize.
     
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    Being "certified" for any position in Walton Schools means buying into and being part of the good old boy/girl machine. It's also helpful to have relatives in positions of authority.
     
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    This is exactly why I don't feel like the superintendent referendum is the answer. Not, that I know what that answer is. We have to have a school board that does not allow positions to be filled by unqualified candidates. Our "elected" board will still put in the candidate that they want rather qualified or not.
     
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    The School Board approves the recommendations made by the Supt. Three members can vote to decline a recommendation only for "Good Cause". Look that requirements criteria up in case law.

    They depend on the HR dept and Supt to recommend "Qualified" candidates that have met the requirements set by the Board in position descriptions which were recommended by the Supt. IF they aren't given accurate data they are limited on their knowledge to determine "Good Cause". Only after three attempts to appoint someone and three refusals for "good cause" can the Board act without a recommendation from the Supt and directly hire someone.

    The system is totally reliant on "recommendations" from the Supt. If both groups (Supt and School Board) are elected they can both point their fingers at the other. Bad hire - response from Supt is they were approved by the School Board - response by the School Board - they were recommended by the Supt.

    Who do you hold accountable ?

    When can you affect change ?

    With the Supt is every four years.

    With The School board it's every 4 years.

    Total time needed to kick them all out of office - 8 years.

    8 years in the education of a child is a disaster.

    Even if you change them ALL - the broken system just begins again.

    We need to change the dynamics to know who to hold accountable !!!!

    VOTE YES TO BEGIN THE PROCESS.
     
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2014

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