Walton County School Board Meeting in SOuth Walton 4/15 at 5pm

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  1. Jdarg

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    Tonight we will be attending to thank the school board for scheduling half the meetings in South Walton. I am sure, just like in DeFuniak, that every meeting won't have a big crowd, depending on what is on the agenda, but since we are such a large tax base, and our schools have the most growth, it is only fair that half the meetings are held here, no matter what the attendance on any given day. We deserve to have at least the option of having a meeting close by whether we can attend all of them or just some.
     
  3. Misty

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    No one implied that the South end doesn't "deserve" to have school board meetings held there. What was said was that it would be interesting to see what turn-out would be like since historically school board meetings in the north end have always been very POORLY attended.

    We are ONE county regardless of who has the most toys.
     
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    What I am trying to say is that before it is tried a few times, then ditched because of "poor attendance" (like the last time), let's hold both ends of the county to the same standard please. It takes months for a community to realize there is a new schedule for regular meetings. Let's give us a chance to make it work before we just throw out the idea because of the "way it's always been". This community really needs to stop looking in the past and start looking forward- that is how successful communities (and people, and businesses) work.
     
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    And let's not forget that the county does not end in DeFuniak. Paxton and Freeport schools are part of the district as well. What I have seen is people don't show up til there is a big vote or issue. By that time most plans have been worked out to deal with whatever the issue is, and does not leave a lot of options. For example the tax increases. No one, and I mean no one came to the budget workshops. But when it came time for the very last public hearing a few showed up very angry, yelling about taxes and throwing down microphones. The time to get change to occur in my opinion is during the process, not at the end of it. The chances are much better if the board has a little time to work things out with public input, not at the last minute. Just my 2 cents.
     
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    Nice turn out for the first south School Board mtg.

    Photo credit: DeFuniak Gerald/Beach Breeze
     

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    Hmmm, no one was throwing out the idea either but if you're looking for a negative connotation to what I have said...keep digging. I'm sure you will find something.

    Ms. Leonard sorta summed up the point I was trying to make. We are also agreed the county doesn't end in Defuniak.

    You're correct jdarg that this didn't go well the last time it was tried but it didn't have the backing of the WCTA either nor was there a movement afoot to hire a Super even though a huge amount of taxpayer money has always been funneled into the school district via the taxpayers, many of whom don't even have children in school.

    You (jdarg) have made it sound as if I want this to fail and that absolutely is not the case but I have lived here long enough to know that you aren't going to change people or their mindset or what they expect from elected officials.

    People are going to fight tooth and nail to keep the Super elected in this county and while the South may think it's going to rise again the North is going to show you exactly what they want too.

    I'm glad there was a nice turnout tonight....let's hope it holds!
     
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    op·ti·mism (ŏp′tə-mĭz′əm)n.1. A tendency to expect the best possible outcome or dwell on the most hopeful aspects of a situation:

    2. Philosophy a. The doctrine, asserted by Leibniz, that this world is the best of all possible worlds.
    b. The belief that the universe is improving and that good will ultimately triumph over evil.


    [HR][/HR][French optimisme, from New Latin optimum, the greatest good; see optimum.]
     
  10. DaleDalbey

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    Two posts back, I read A post about Walton being "ONE". Then from the same poster, I read that the North is going to show the South what it wants done. I am not interested in reliving a war that ended 159 years ago. What I am interested in hearing is: Why is an elected superintendent better for our students? Saving money? The school board approved a new attorney retainer last to represent the Superintendent (with no mention of representing the school system as a whole). There is no doubt that expenditure alone, along with the multiple consulting contracts approved, will cost more than the difference in cost for an appointed superintendent. Giving up their right to vote? We have lousy voter participation anyway. So, help me out, how is the current system with an extremely low bar for superintendent qualifications better for our kids? Just possibly if we talk about merits instead of politics, our kids might be better served.
     
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    Where does the "great divide" start...hmmm, let's see....maybe comments like "we are such a large tax base, and our schools have the most growth".

    Maybe it will end when folks in the South end of the county stop thinking everything is an "entitlement" because they have the most toys.

     
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    There are plenty of working people in South Walton struggling to get by. Comments assuming everybody who lives south of the bridge is living the good life is just insulting and untrue.

    Regarding "entitled or entitlements". Every child in this county is entitled to the best education possible, regardless of their parents' zip code. If people say I have a sense of entitlement because I want the best education possible for my child, and will strongly advocate for it, them call me entitled and I will wear it as a badge of honor.
     
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    And I never got my question answered about the merits of the superintendent discussion-- only class warfare-- the worst form of politics and demagoguery.
     
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    I did answer your questions...you just didn't like the answers.

    Have a great day.
     
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    As someone who lives south of the bay but teaches north of the bay, I assure you the teachers in both ends of this county want the same thing: to teach in a safe, positive environment without fear of retribution for asking for fair working conditions and decent compensation and to be treated with respect by our employer, The Walton County School District. The students are our main concern, and Every child deserves a well-rested teacher who can give it their all every day. I don't know why Misty said what she did about the "north end showing the south end" because every teacher I talk to wants the teachers in both ends of the countyto stick together to make sure good things happen in this district. It's mostly on this forum that I hear about the "great divide" and animosity.
     
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    Not one word has been said about not wanting what's best for the children of Walton County. What has been said was the opposition to hiring versus electing a superintendent is growing exponentially.

    You have ex-elected school board members, teachers, churches, the media and even the former president of the WCTA, Bonnie McQuiston just saying no to this effort.

    I said what I did because I live in the north end of the County and I'm simply not hearing all the great things that those involved in this effort are pushing.

    Let me reiterate my position, I PERSONALLY am not opposed to the idea even though I don't believe it will save the taxpayers money. I think being able to hold the Superintendent accountable to the people is a wonderful opportunity for the kids in this county.

    You do have the right to be respected by your employer sunny850 without fear of retribution but regardless of an elected versus hired Superintendent, you still have to answer to someone who is elected! All this effort does is give the power to an elected board.

    Bottom line is you absolutely get what you vote for. If I recall Ms. Anderson had a lot of opposition the last time she ran. There were many many people who spoke out against her and she was still re-elected so, the respect you didn't get and the retribution you fear can be directly laid at the feet of those who voted for her.
     
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    Class warfare would mean I am opposed to hiring versus electing a Superintendent. I am not opposed to the idea at all.

    It certainly isn't because I'm pi$$ poor or work for a living just like the rest of you or because I believe any of you have a better social or economic position.

    I do however believe there have been some false proclamations made here about the savings to the taxpayers and there are those of you who are attempting to arouse the emotions of the taxpayers with the claim "it's for the children" that I don't believe are completely accurate and speaks volumes to "demagoguery".
     
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    Bonnie McQuiston is nothing more than a tool of the good ol' boy network and she's one of the worst things to happen to South Walton. If she's against it then I'm for it.
     
  19. lazin&drinkin

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    Misty,

    It is said there are none so blind who cannot see. The assertions of those who proclaim, as Ms. McQuiston and others have, that this will deprive them of their right to vote (for a superintendent) entirely miss the point. This is indeed about the children, though it would appear those aforesaid now-former children have been victimized by the educational system themselves. Our children certainly have been and are being victimized when greater than 60% of those going on to college require both remedial math and remedial English.


    This IS about the children, like it or not. This is NOT about any adult’s prejudices about their right to continue the practices that have failed and that continue to fail our children, one of those being electing a superintendent. This is not about saving money. It is about improving our children’s chances to succeed in life by doing what we can to improve the system charged with providing them with an education and the mental tools to succeed in life for themselves and for their fellow man.


    I’m 71 and have no child in school, here or elsewhere. That does not absolve me of the responsibility to try to make this a better place for my fellow man and more particularly for the children of today who cannot speak for or defend themselves, no matter the blindness or selfishness of the adults who are charged with providing for their welfare, that including their education.


    To suggest that advocacy for a change in a failing system is demagoguery is itself at least strongly smacking of that very demagoguery. The people behind this movement are sincere. That quality does not make them right, but it likewise does not make them wrong. Would any care to argue that our schools are doing as well as they might in preparing our children? That they are approaching perfection in the administration of the huge sums of money in their charge?


    That 99% of the school districts in this country appoint rather than elect superintendents does not make Walton wrong and nearly everyone else right, but any thinking person should at least pause to consider that maybe, just maybe, Walton might seriously re-examine its position.


    Those whom Misty seems to revile as demagogues believe that there is a better way, the protestations of Ms. McQuiston and others to the contrary. Objective measures demonstrate that our schools aren’t getting it done. This is not to castigate the teachers or administration. Would that life were so simple. They are tasked with dealing with the sequelae of the decisions and the actions and inactions of parents and of our legal system and larger government. They have an impossible task as is, and this must change. Those of us trying to evoke discussion and introspection don’t presume to have all the answers, but we do know that serious questions need to be asked and thoughtfully answered. We’re not afraid to do so. Are you?
     
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    lazin&drinkin, as is always the case with you, you are 99% on! Ms Mc Quiston may be prone to change her mind once she understands that one body governs and one administers. The one governing is the elected one...the school board.
     

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