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Walton County Schools' Corporal Punishment Policy

Discussion in 'Local Government and Groups' started by Jdarg, Aug 9, 2011.

  1. Jdarg

    Jdarg SoWal Expert

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    Even though this is the 5th year in a row that I have come across this form in my daughter's backpack, it never ceases to amaze me that this policy is still in existence. In 2011. Heck, it was a shock in 2005, since most communities were out of the stone age a while ago.

    In the WCSD Student Code of Conduct, page 34, drum roll please...

    Parent or Guardian Notice
    Corporal Punishment
    Agreement with Parent

    I have to check a box- the yes box if I think it is OK for somebody to hit my child (uh, NO), or the no box if I prefer that didn't happen (uh, YES). Then I have to sign this piece of crap and send it back in- and I will have to place it in an envelope so she won't have to see that it might be an option for children to be hit at school.

    And, like every year, I will write my little note of outrage that this sort of policy reflects badly on Walton County and does nothing to enhance the educational environment, blah blah blah. What a disgusting, backwards policy.

    I encourage all WCSD parents to send in your notes of outrage about this archaic and disturbing policy with your signed form as well. How hard is it to remove this policy?
     
  2. Waterbaddrinkwine

    Waterbaddrinkwine Beach Lover

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    My son has spent the bulk of his life in Walton County schools and I don't really remember this being a problem. It's not like they are lining our kids up and beating them at the slightest indiscretion. I can't remember any of my son's friends ever talking about getting paddled or that anyone ever had. In a perfect world we'd just sit everyone down and talk about it and life would be good. (perfect being parental involvement etc., social economic status, and I could go on) Let's face it, some kids need a good swat on the ass to wake up. Everyone I grew up with since the 60s seem to have made it just fine!
     
  3. rocketman

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    Water..., like you, I have never had a problem with the issue of corporal punishment being a problem. If someone wants to change the law, they should start at the state level. We have two great kids that made it through the Walton County School System without any major drama or trauma. The bottom line is that kids should and shall behave themselves. There is a reason why our school district was allowed the opportunity to start early. Bottom line....the District is an "A" district/outstanding district. For the most part the district has done it right. I will be forever grateful for the fact that my grandchildren have the opportunity to attend Walton County District Schools.
    Rock on,
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  4. Teresa

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    I think we all agree our schools are terrific. The policy, however, is not relevant and really does not apply to how discipline is conducted in schools today. It is far past time to remove the policy and replace it with a more updated discipline policy. Why continually send out such an outdated policy which only serves to upset families who rely on their schools to provide a safe and secure educational setting based on best educational practices?
     
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  5. rocketman

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    Teresa:
    I totally agree. The policy is outdated. However, if disruptive kids prevent other children from learning because of their dysfunctional behavior there should be consequences for them beyond corporal punishment. Your point is "well" taken....I commend you on your perception.

    Rock on,
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  6. Douglas the Intrepid

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    Imygyn is just starting 6th grade at the new ECMS and I just finished filling out the ream of paperwork she brought home. I am very happy to report that this distasteful release form was nowhere to be found in the packet I was told to fill out. I did find it in the Walton County handbook that was included almost as an afterthought, but I was told to just keep that as a resource and not fill it out. Looks like the new school is showing progress beyond just the technology they offer! ;)
     
  7. Camp Creek Kid

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    I did have the release to sign for my children at Bay Elem. and Seaside. However, there was a note inside my middle school son's policy handbook that said the school district was in the process of revising some of their policies and would be sending out the revisions in the near future. I wouldn't be surprised if the corporal punishment policy is one that is being revised.
     
  8. Jdarg

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    I hope you are right. It's like finding a rotten egg in the happy first-day-of-school backpack!

    Regarding some of the comments above, Walton County does not have A-rated schools because of corporal punishment. They are A-rated because of the FCAT scores, right? So unless the students are being beaten into FCAT submission, corporal punishment does not factor in to school ratings. And in reality if the kids never get paddled, then why have this blight in our school system?

    Also, ratings based on FCAT scores really don't matter much to me, and shouldn't to you. Big whoopie doo. My test is going to be how prepared my kid is for college when he gets there next week.
     
  9. tailwagger

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    Yes - and our country is in such great hands. :sarc: I respect your opinion but it seems this type of flippant attitude is harmful, and I suspect a major reason we have such a violent society.

    There may not be a direct link, but common sense says an eye for an eye just makes everyone blind. Our kids are who we teach them to be. Violence teaches violence. Teaching respect through nonviolence is the better way. But admittedly it is harder and most people don't have the patience or ability to teach peace AND respect. We like immediate results. When a kid does wrong and you teach him or her to make a better choice, they don't always learn it right away. But they do learn. They just might need to mature more before they begin to make better choices on their own.

    Violence is so cheap and easy. It is a cancer and the only cure is education. Ironic, ain't it?

    Also, I wouldn't say being involved in several wars at the moment means you and your friends are in fine shape. Not to mention the everyday violence around us all the time. But we can always blame Hollywood and video games I suppose.

    Walton County, listen to Jdarg.
     
  10. SGB

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    And I'd love to hear what grade you give to the Walton County schools for that test!
     
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    As in most families, the child's success in college is dependent on many things including the schools attended but mostly the love, support and teaching provided by parents throughout the years... and then above all - the student's inner motivation to learn, excel and succeed in many ways in his/her life. Yes, our teachers help instill these things over the years. The FCAT does nothing but evaluate the teacher and the school and it now is sadly used to replace all educational curriculum and philosophy and best teaching practice....
     
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  12. Jdarg

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    Stuff like this just makes me sad. We want so much for our kids and their education, and I see improvements every year in our schools, but then we have disappointing setbacks (which have been covered in other threads), or I am reminded that the educational culture here has miles to go when I realize I am in a school system that keeps an archaic policy of corporal punishment. It makes me want to just sigh and go back in my hole.
     
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    My kids have been in schools in three states and we have always had to sign a corporal punishment policy. It brings back memories of a 2nd grade teacher I had who was very feeble and could barely hold up the ruler she was about to swat my best friend with. He was not hurt, but he was humiliated. I don't think whipping kids works but each parent has the right to do as they see fit. Some decide to live by the "spare the rod, spoil the child" philosophy. I always check NO and put a note saying, if my kid is out of line, call me and I will be at the school in five minutes to straighten him/her out. The pleasure of jerking a knot in their tail is reserved for me and me alone.
     
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    From the Florida Dept. of Education report on trends in corporal punishment- a little food for thought at dinnertime. Scroll through the report and there is a table showing the incidences of corporal punishment by county. Anyone want to guess which region of Florida has the highest number of reported incidences? The stats are from 2006-2007- wonder if any current stats are available. I did get any encouraging note from someone who would know today- paddling does not happen in South Walton from what they know. Is this a cultural battle here, and if so, what culture promotes kitting kids in 2011?

    From the report-

    Corporal punishment is defined by Florida Statutes as the moderate use of physical force or physical contact by a teacher or principal to maintain discipline or to enforce school rules. The school board shall have the authority to prohibit the use of corporal punishment, provided that the school board adopts or has adopted a written program of alternative control or discipline (s. 1006.07(1), Florida Statutes).
    Over the past fifteen years, the use of corporal punishment by Florida school districts has drastically decreased (see table below). For the 2006-07 school year, there were 5,245 incidents of corporal punishment, compared to 24,198 in 1991-92. This represents a cumulative decrease of over 78 percent.
    In 2006-07, 29 school districts reported students receiving corporal punishment. In 1988-89, all 67 school districts administered corporal punishment. (Note that these figures reflect how many times discipline was administered, not the number of students receiving the discipline). In 1989-90, seven districts (Broward, Charlotte, Dade, Martin, Monroe, Palm Beach, and Sarasota) reported no use of corporal punishment. This was the first year that any district reported no use of corporal punishment at all. Since then, districts have steadily reported fewer incidences of corporal punishment. The most significant decrease in the last 15 years occurred between 2004-05 and 2005-06 with 29.9 percent fewer incidents of corporal punishment reported.


    http://www.fldoe.org/eias/eiaspubs/pdf/discipline.pdf
     
  15. Jdarg

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    I don't know whether to feel relieved that Florida is not the only state to have this or outraged that there is still so many adults who think it is OK to hit a kid!
     
  16. Tigertail

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    A majority of folks in the Paxton area prefer corporal punishment. That is their culture, although much different than many of us in the south end. Our school district serves a variety of schools/cultures, corporal punishment is not used in our area but serves its' purpose elsewhere
     
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    I would think the school system would NOT want the responsibility or the liability for hitting a child. Any educator has studied child development, and in those studies have found that hitting is not an effective way of teaching children (for a huge long list of reasons), so why would a school ever embrace this technique? parents can make that choice, but it is hard for me to believe that any educators today would agree with this action as part of an effective disciplinary policy.
     
  18. Douglas the Intrepid

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    I grew up in western NY and there has never been corperal punishment at the schools I attended. I think the deep south is just taking longer to catch up with the rest of the country.
     
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    I don't get this. Ya'll act like kids are being taken in a dungeon and whipped with straps. Give me a break. I had a teacher in the 7th grade that would give you a pop in front of the class if you didn't do your homework. She only had to do it once and everyone did their homework on time the rest of the year.
    One pop on the butt with a paddle is not going to leave everlasting physical, mental or emotional scars. (well, not for the student anyway) :roll:
     

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