And the NO VOTE has it!!

Discussion in 'Local Government and Groups' started by Misty, Aug 26, 2014.

  1. Misty

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    Also Andy, for someone (you) who didn't attend school board meetings you obviously never saw the board rubber stamp every decision Ms. Anderson made with no questions asked. That's not what they were elected for and we all know it.
     
  2. Jdarg

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    My lack of response had nothing to do with Bob, and and more to do with your refusal to participate as a "real" person than just someone always posting negative things on SoWal. Real people got responses and actively participated in the campaign in the real word, using their real names, and I am thankful for them.
     
  3. Misty

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    Had you bothered to respond all your insecurities about who I am would have been addressed. For now, its still not relevant. I have to live and work here too.
     
  4. Leader of the Banned

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    I think more stories about the failures of the current system in Walton County would have been nice. I think it would have been good to have a website describing what makes a good school board and a competent superindendent. Just something with basic info for the uninitiated complete with a FAQ. Also, any time you talk about the topic online, assume that at least one person reading it doesn't have a clue, so don't be afraid to repeat something that may seem simple and basic. That's how you educate people. I used to read the WSJ, and every article on finance, no matter how advanced, always takes the time to explain the basics.
     
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    And this, in a nutshell, is so telling. Everyone I talked to in north county said some variation of this. Why are people scared to exercise their constitutionally guaranteed right to free speech without fear of governmental retribution? The very fact that people feel they can't embrace a new approach because "they have to live and work here" Is scary to me. I just do not understand what people are afraid of. And if it's the fear of retribution...that is exactly what this referendum was trying to end.

    The status quo which benefits a very select few is preserved.
     
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  6. Misty

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    Have you ever been thrown in jail in this county because of your "constitutionally guaranteed right to free speech without fear of governmental retribution"? I have! Have your children ever been pulled over in this county by law enforcement and been told they were speeding when you know in fact they weren't? Mine were!

    When you have fought the system legally and personally witnessed vulgar displays of retribution you do tend to be a little gun-shy. I know what county government is capable of and I know what county government gets away with doing to an electorate that has been dumbed down for decades!
     
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    don't confuse your right to 'free speech' with a non-existent right to force people to listen
    Misty, what was the exact charge? not just another irrelevant another opinion
     
  8. Cuff

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    Local ... If you are referring to me as being part of some group you are very wrong. I only know a few people here , mostly retired neighbors who have recently moved here . We do not discuss politics.
     
  9. 30A Skunkape

    30A Skunkape Mr. Small Box

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    Thanks for an honest and good response. We did attempt to point out the district's shortcomings as far as actual outcomes go (to contrast No's constant attempt to elevate the district based on the bogus 'A district' award). But realize, we went to great lengths to not make the referendum about Carlene or the teachers per se, but about the process. Again, we could have gotten into the mud and attacked Carlene's well publicized shortcomings but didn't want to go there, nor did we want to look like we were bashing all the hard working teachers and school staff.

    Point well taken about the basics. You are correct. I personally flipped no to yes with several people by simply educating them regarding the fact that Florida is the only state where more districts elect than appoint, and outcomes data shows higher achievement in appointed districts.
     
  10. rapunzel

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    Well, Misty, that if very frightening. But the only thing that can stop a bully is for someone to stand up and say no. And I can assure there were times we felt like everything we said was twisted or taken out of context. My guess is that was probably why people may have been afraid to communicate with without knowing who you were. Please understand there were times we were frightened by some of the tactics. But I promise you, there was no intent to be disrespectful. We certainly weren't perfect messengers sometimes. But we were just trying to float an idea that we thought would make county government work a little more efficiently for all the county's kids. End of story.
     
  11. Misty

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    Which time? The first time for "creating" an affray which I wasn't even present for. (First officer on scene testified to the fact I wasn't present when it occurred.) Uttering a non-existent threat the 2nd time. (The email in question was never sent to the recipient by me although it was altered to make it appear it had been.) Is that even a chargeable offense?
     
  12. 30A Skunkape

    30A Skunkape Mr. Small Box

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    I voted for you based on your performance at the Republican Club event. I liked your no nonsense demeanor and the fact that you made it a point to emphasize your 'no preferential treatment and open access to all' stance. I hope you will consider another run, I bet you would do a great job.
     
  13. Misty

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    P.S. I was never formally charged with anything. The bogus charges were dismissed
     
  14. rapunzel

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    Excellent points, well taken. We really could have used your insight.
     
  15. Leader of the Banned

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    I think sooner or later you'll have to get specific and start naming names. Also, isn't Florida one of the few states in the country where there are no qualification standards for superintendent? Isn't that just as big a problem?
     
  16. Misty

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    I despise the "good ole boys" in this County more so than most and speak out about them probably more than I should. I assuredly didn't vote no because I was afraid of them, I voted NO mostly because I couldn't glean useful information out of those supporting it and to this day don't understand how a hired Super will save the county money.

    I had no ulterior motives.
     
  17. 30A Television

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    Never claimed to be "serious" which is clear when taking the p*!s out of Sarah Palin back in 08. You could also post some of our WCSO "serious" videos advising how to watch for fraud.
     
  18. 30A Television

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    Hi Bob. We definitely had you on the list and apologize you never got the email.
     
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    no, neither of them are on their own, so you either have one of the best civil rights cases I've heard of or you're a delusional bull**** artist with victimhood tendencies. I'm pretty sure which I believe.

    You kinda seem perfect for this place. Good Luck
     
  20. John G

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    Yes, s#!+ is recycled around here.

    More than once...

    You are also accurate on your assessment of info provideed.

    It is factual!
     

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