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Anderson Supporters Go Negative !

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A new "Shadow Organization" has entered the Walton County District 5 commission race with a direct mail attack Ad against Cindy Meadows.

Who Is "Voter Response" ?

Who funded the mailer and associated robo calls ?

I'm sure Mike Weimorts will write another Article decrying this "Shadow Organization"

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#27
Ironic that many people left this site years ago for Facebook because they thought it would be more civil.
There are people on there who are generally productive on "Visions," like Danny Glidewell and Bob Hudson, just as they are on here. Also some other good people who are caring and who monitor what is said, but it s all outweighed by nasty behavior that has led to people saying they have been harassed outside of the "Visions" group just for having a differing opinion. One woman had her profile picture maligned and distorted by a man she thought she could trust because of his stature in the community....very bad behavior, and it's sad. I hope kids don't go into Visions!
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#28
Holy bejeezus, would you please read what I said! I didn't say a word about his sign being negative, I simply asked how much the freaking monster cost!!



The only "community leaders" I have currently is 5 BCC members, 2 of whom I want out. I don't know who you think the "community leaders" are there but let me assure you, there are allot of arm chair quarterbacks none of which I would consider leaders, who sit on their backsides and send pretty little emails to the Commissioners telling them what their "Vision" for Walton County is.

Honestly, I can't think of one "vision" that they have shared that has come to fruition!
I may agree with you on something Misty...about Visions!

Also I misunderstood your comment on the big trailer sign, I was confused by what you said...I don't have a way of knowing how it cost except maybe look online on the elections page?
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#29
I may agree with you on something Misty...about Visions!

Also I misunderstood your comment on the big trailer sign, I was confused by what you said...I don't have a way of knowing how it cost except maybe look online on the elections page?


They don't break down individual expenditures for advertising. All the SOE website lists is cost for that reporting period.
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#30
I may agree with you on something Misty...about Visions!

You get a happy dance...

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#31
There are people on there who are generally productive on "Visions," like Danny Glidewell and Bob Hudson, just as they are on here. Also some other good people who are caring and who monitor what is said, but it s all outweighed by nasty behavior that has led to people saying they have been harassed outside of the "Visions" group just for having a differing opinion. One woman had her profile picture maligned and distorted by a man she thought she could trust because of his stature in the community....very bad behavior, and it's sad. I hope kids don't go into Visions!

That happened here with members of the "vision" group using sock puppets.

As for kids...they should never be online unattended anyway. There is nothing there that horrific but there are sure allot of misinformed and downright a$$es there. The few I do know who still post there from here NOT among them!

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Lake View Too avatar
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#32
I don't see "Visions" as quite as bad as either of you portray. It's trying to discuss issues in a positive way. Bad apples seem to fall almost everywhere, but it's frigging bad apple mash, sour, sour, sour, that keeps us yapping on this site. Ya think?
John G avatar
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#33
What is the Vision site?
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#34
I don't see "Visions" as quite as bad as either of you portray. It's trying to discuss issues in a positive way. Bad apples seem to fall almost everywhere, but it's frigging bad apple mash, sour, sour, sour, that keeps us yapping on this site. Ya think?


Honestly, you're right...it isn't that bad but if your only goal is to sit and talk about issue rather than having a plan and doing something that will actually result in positive change then that's the place to be. I just think sitting around arm chair quarterbacking and writing letters isn't real effective....especially with the current BCC.

Action Committees are effective in elections but its also the only time anyone seems to use them.
Lake View Too avatar
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#36
I'm not sure it's "closed". Some of these Tony Cronies were viewing it and making much apple sauce
about somebody who misspoke. It all gotten straightened out.
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#37
I'm not sure it's "closed". Some of these Tony Cronies were viewing it and making much apple sauce
about somebody who misspoke. It all gotten straightened out.


Trust me its closed. This is from their page..."Closed Group"
Mike Jones avatar
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#381
Ad in DeFuniak Herald...

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#39
It is unreal the amount of money spent on this election, probably approaching $500,000 for all the candidates and various PAC's and "electioneering organizations." Apparently someone thinks there is a great deal of money to be made in Walton County.
That's not the case. People are fed up with the statue quo.
Beach Lover
#40
I'm not sure it's "closed". Some of these Tony Cronies were viewing it and making much apple sauce
about somebody who misspoke. It all gotten straightened out.
You mean a outright lie told by a Cindy supporter. Who got called on his BS. Once the facts were shown. He knew he was beat and half way said he was sorry.
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#42
It looked like a complainer page to me.


Yes I said that! That's my opinion. So what?
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#43
That's not the case. People are fed up with the statue quo.

Come on, I understand that people give for many different reasons and some of them are fed up with the status quo. But the amount of money spent on this election is unprecedented. The Washington DC and Tallahassee organizations by themselves have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars. Do you really think that they care about the status quo on Walton County unless the status quo is costing them money? This observation has nothing whatsoever to do for or against any candidate, it is simply a statement of fact.
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#44
Come on, I understand that people give for many different reasons and some of them are fed up with the status quo. But the amount of money spent on this election is unprecedented. The Washington DC and Tallahassee organizations by themselves have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars. Do you really think that they care about the status quo on Walton County unless the status quo is costing them money? This observation has nothing whatsoever to do for or against any candidate, it is simply a statement of fact.
Please explain how this election could cost "THEM" money and who "them"is?
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#45
Come on, I understand that people give for many different reasons and some of them are fed up with the status quo. But the amount of money spent on this election is unprecedented. The Washington DC and Tallahassee organizations by themselves have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars. Do you really think that they care about the status quo on Walton County unless the status quo is costing them money? This observation has nothing whatsoever to do for or against any candidate, it is simply a statement of fact.
I will say that in District 5 I think both candidates themselves have actually focused on the issues, even though I am biased in favor of Anderson. I give them both credit for addressing the issues and, I think, doing more to discuss the specifics than candidates in other districts.

You may not like the outside money and I understand that completely, and incidentally have a lot of respect for you Danny, but there's a difference in my opinion in Our Generation, which essentially ran the Nipper and Fletcher campaigns (not that they asked for it or wanted it!) and the much smaller scale negative stuff in D5 that came within the last two weeks of the election.

In terms of negativity, I think D5 is interesting because for months, it was meadows supporters attacking Anderson online...and using signs and letters to the Herald etc ....and now there's a more traditional type of "negative" campaigning focusing on Meadows' record.
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#46
I will say that in District 5 I think both candidates themselves have actually focused on the issues, even though I am biased in favor of Anderson. I give them both credit for addressing the issues and, I think, doing more to discuss the specifics than candidates in other districts.

You may not like the outside money and I understand that completely, and incidentally have a lot of respect for you Danny, but there's a difference in my opinion in Our Generation, which essentially ran the Nipper and Fletcher campaigns (not that they asked for it or wanted it!) and the much smaller scale negative stuff in D5 that came within the last two weeks of the election.

In terms of negativity, I think D5 is interesting because for months, it was meadows supporters attacking Anderson online...and using signs and letters to the Herald etc ....and now there's a more traditional type of "negative" campaigning focusing on Meadows' record.
Addressing issues and actual doing something is 2 different things. Cindo had her chance to fix some issues the last 4 years and failed. Cindo got to go. I think the Nipper and Fletcher had to do with our high profile beachfront property owner who didn't want to lose his beach. Just my opinion.
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#47
Addressing issues and actual doing something is 2 different things. Cindo had her chance to fix some issues the last 4 years and failed. Cindo got to go. I think the Nipper and Fletcher had to do with our high profile beachfront property owner who didn't want to lose his beach. Just my opinion.
I agree with you. Talk is cheap action is what matters. I got mailers from Nipper and Fletcher today that had Huckabees picture on them and looked exactly the same as the mailers from Our Generation. Did they coincidentally use the same designer, lol.
Beach Lover
#48
I agree with you. Talk is cheap action is what matters. I got mailers from Nipper and Fletcher today that had Huckabees picture on them and looked exactly the same as the mailers from Our Generation. Did they coincidentally use the same designer, lol.
Bingo It's funny how people move here, live here for a few years or stay hear part time and want to change our County. We were doing just fine without them. So now can they please pack up and take their complaining with them.
Beach Lover
#49
Yes I said that! That's my opinion. So what?
I'm agreeing with you. lol
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#50
Please explain how this election could cost "THEM" money and who "them"is?

I have no idea who "them" is. I have heard dozens of people speculate but to date have seen no proof. Therefore, I don't know how they have been cost money or if they just want the right people on the BCC so they can make more money. I have my ideas but that would be sheer speculation. I just know that common sense tells me that no one would spend the kind of money it takes to send out dozens of mailers, buy ads on TV and radio and plaster the internet with ads and not want something in return. I may have fell off the turnip truck but it was not yesterday.
Indestructible, I cannot see the difference in the our generation stuff and the Tallahassee stuff. All of it is shadow organizations from out of the county who have not shared who is funding them or what their real purpose is. I don't have a problem with telling the truth about candidate's positions or voting record but don't like half-truths and falsehoods. There has been a great deal of that from several places this time and precious little discussion of issues.
Born & Bread, my family has been in Walton County since the 1820's. Is 190 years and 7 generations enough to qualify me to be able to stay? Check it out, look for Daniel and Angus Anderson. Plus "Big John" Anderson who was killed by the Indians at Gum Creek Ford in the 1830's.
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#51
Bingo It's funny how people move here, live here for a few years or stay hear part time and want to change our County.


30 years here none of it part time.

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