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SHELLY

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They think they've got problems now......wait until the gazillion new folks who will be flocking to the area (via the new airport) try to find a dry square of sand to plop their lily-white butts.

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They think they&#039;ve got problems now......wait until the gazillion new folks who will be flocking to the area (via the new airport) try to find a dry square of sand to plop their lily-white butts. 
 
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ecopal

Beach Fanatic

[quote="SHELLY, post: 299978"]They think they've got problems now......wait until the gazillion new folks who will be flocking to the area (via the new airport) try to find a dry square of sand to plop their lily-white butts.

.[/QUOTE]

The upside down  property investor optimists can only hope they have that crowding problem.

BTW-"lily-white butts" is comical but don?t you think it  implies a  slight racist bias?

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="SHELLY">They think they&#039;ve got problems now......wait until the gazillion new folks who will be flocking to the area (via the new airport) try to find a dry square of sand to plop their lily-white butts. 
 
.</blockquote> 
The upside down property investor optimists can only hope they have that crowding problem. 
 
BTW-&quot;lily-white butts&quot; is comical but don?t you think it implies a slight racist bias?

seacrestkristi

Don't you all think the sudden hiring of security on these supposed, exclusive 'private' beaches is in order to prove some kind of 'customary usage' determination in the near future??? Why aren't these beaches required to have public access if all the other beaches in South Walton have accesses? They're attracting the majority of the tourist in the county, aren't they? What makes them excluded? Other people who own homes on the beach are happy to share with others, or at least act like it. :clap:Why don't they have to share their 'toys', I mean beach? :scratch:

Don&#039;t you all think the sudden hiring of security on these supposed, exclusive &#039;private&#039; beaches is in order to prove some kind of &#039;customary usage&#039; determination in the near future??? Why aren&#039;t these beaches required to have public access if all the other beaches in South Walton have accesses? They&#039;re attracting the majority of the tourist in the county, aren&#039;t they? What makes them excluded? Other people who own homes on the beach are happy to share with others, or at least act like it. :clap:Why don&#039;t they have to share their &#039;toys&#039;, I mean beach? :scratch:

[quote="ecopal, post: 299986"]The upside down  property investor optimists can only hope they have that crowding problem.

BTW-"lily-white butts" is comical but don?t you think it  implies a  slight racist bias?[/QUOTE]Statistically, most butts in America are lily-white.  The mere mention of said butts is not racist, is it?  The reverse statement would be interesting no doubt.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="ecopal">The upside down property investor optimists can only hope they have that crowding problem. 
 
BTW-&quot;lily-white butts&quot; is comical but don?t you think it implies a slight racist bias?</blockquote>Statistically, most butts in America are lily-white. The mere mention of said butts is not racist, is it? The reverse statement would be interesting no doubt.

NoHall

hmmmm......can't remember

[quote="ecopal, post: 299986"]The upside down  property investor optimists can only hope they have that crowding problem.

BTW-"lily-white butts" is comical but don?t you think it  implies a  slight racist bias?[/quote]

[quote="Bob, post: 300033"]Statistically, most butts in America are lily-white.  The mere mention of said butts is not racist, is it?  The reverse statement would be interesting no doubt.[/quote]

I don't think it's racist in any sort of hateful way.  Most people I know whose butts are darker than lily-white 1) also have hair that is inconvenient for swimming, and 2) are not at all interested in tanning.  If they go to the beach (and I'm just talking about people I know; I am not trying to generalize or stereotype anyone!) they go where the sand and surf is not the only/main attraction.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="ecopal">The upside down property investor optimists can only hope they have that crowding problem. 
 
BTW-&quot;lily-white butts&quot; is comical but don?t you think it implies a slight racist bias?</blockquote> 
<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Bob">Statistically, most butts in America are lily-white. The mere mention of said butts is not racist, is it? The reverse statement would be interesting no doubt.</blockquote> 
I don&#039;t think it&#039;s racist in any sort of hateful way. Most people I know whose butts are darker than lily-white 1) also have hair that is inconvenient for swimming, and 2) are not at all interested in tanning. If they go to the beach (and I&#039;m just talking about people I know; I am not trying to generalize or stereotype anyone!) they go where the sand and surf is not the only/main attraction.

[quote="Bob, post: 300033"]Statistically, most butts in America are lily-white. The mere mention of said butts is not racist, is it? The reverse statement would be interesting no doubt.[/quote]
 
The white lilies are mostly American butts. :moon: :confused: :biggrin: ;-)

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Bob">Statistically, most butts in America are lily-white. The mere mention of said butts is not racist, is it? The reverse statement would be interesting no doubt.</blockquote> 
The white lilies are mostly American butts. :moon: :confused: 😀 ;-)

[quote="seacrestkristi, post: 300044"]The white lilies are mostly American butts. :moon: :confused: :biggrin: ;-)[/QUOTE]

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You obviously haven't seen many Brits in your travels.

....and as far as the Lily-white comment:  Park your butt on a bench anywhere around SoWal and observe.


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<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="seacrestkristi">The white lilies are mostly American butts. :moon: :confused: 😀 ;-)</blockquote> 
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You obviously haven&#039;t seen many Brits in your travels. 
 
....and as far as the Lily-white comment: Park your butt on a bench anywhere around SoWal and observe. 
 
 
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scooterbug44

SoWal Expert

ANYONE who spends time on a Sowal beach gets tan lines and a bum paler than their exposed skin ;-).

greenroomsurfer

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[B][SIZE=+0]beaches[/B][/SIZE][LEFT][SIZE=+0]The agenda for the Walton BCC meeting for 9 October 07 includes the following;
5:15 PM Office of County Attorney
1. Public vs. Private Beach
2. License Agreement
That is all it says. I understand that the license agreement will allow 65 seawalls to remain on public beach! Some more than 40 feet onto our beach! Money talks!
NOW, if that is how they treat the public property..... what about private property where the public has customary use rights?
I do not know what will be said. It could be good.... or it might be a historic loss of liberty consistent with current trends by our government at all levels! You might want to attend![/SIZE][/LEFT]

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[SIZE=+0]beaches[/SIZE]<div style="text-align: left">[SIZE=+0]The agenda for the Walton BCC meeting for 9 October 07 includes the following; 
5:15 PM Office of County Attorney 
1. Public vs. Private Beach 
2. License Agreement 
That is all it says. I understand that the license agreement will allow 65 seawalls to remain on public beach! Some more than 40 feet onto our beach! Money talks! 
NOW, if that is how they treat the public property..... what about private property where the public has customary use rights? 
I do not know what will be said. It could be good.... or it might be a historic loss of liberty consistent with current trends by our government at all levels! You might want to attend![/SIZE]&#8203;</div> 
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[B][SIZE=-0]beaches[/SIZE][/B][LEFT][SIZE=-0]The agenda for the Walton BCC meeting for 9 October 07 includes the following;
[COLOR=Blue][B] 5:15 PM Office of County Attorney
1. Public vs. Private Beach[/B][/COLOR]
2. License Agreement
That is all it says. I understand that the license agreement will allow 65 seawalls to remain on public beach! Some more than 40 feet onto our beach! Money talks!
NOW, if that is how they treat the public property..... what about private property where the public has customary use rights?
I do not know what will be said. It could be good.... or it might be a historic loss of liberty consistent with current trends by our government at all levels! You might want to attend![/SIZE][/LEFT]

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[SIZE=1]How do you read/interpret this??
The BCC Mtg is AT the County Atty's OFFICE???  
Or the CA is leading the discussion on Public vs. Private Beaches?
 :idontno:
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[SIZE=+2]Beaches [/SIZE] 
[SIZE=-0]beaches[/SIZE]<div style="text-align: left">[SIZE=-0]The agenda for the Walton BCC meeting for 9 October 07 includes the following; 
 5:15 PM Office of County Attorney 
1. Public vs. Private Beach 
2. License Agreement 
That is all it says. I understand that the license agreement will allow 65 seawalls to remain on public beach! Some more than 40 feet onto our beach! Money talks! 
NOW, if that is how they treat the public property..... what about private property where the public has customary use rights? 
I do not know what will be said. It could be good.... or it might be a historic loss of liberty consistent with current trends by our government at all levels! You might want to attend![/SIZE]&#8203;</div> 
[SIZE=-0]<a href="http://www.icebase.com/go2.shtml?GqCxVoQt8vFsWUO2/8494320adf4e276f/3ad3057c6499020a/wochi65@yahoo.com" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">panhandle@surfrider.org</a> ? Florida Panhandle Surfrider[/SIZE]</blockquote> 
How do you read/interpret this?? 
The BCC Mtg is AT the County Atty&#039;s OFFICE??? 
Or the CA is leading the discussion on Public vs. Private Beaches? 
 :idontno:

BeachSiO2

[quote="Dune-AHH, post: 300102"][SIZE=1]How do you read/interpret this??
The BCC Mtg is AT the County Atty's OFFICE???  
Or the CA is leading the discussion on Public vs. Private Beaches?
 :idontno:
[/SIZE][/quote]

Typically, the way it works is that the County Commission directs the County Attorney to present information on topics of interest to them.  They may be new items or stem from previous meetings where the BCC has directed the County Attorney to do research.  It looks like this is a case of both, new (access) and old (licensing agreement).  The meeting is the regular BCC meeting its just that's the time slot the item will be heard.  Keep in mind though that those times may slip so get there early if you are interested.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Dune-AHH">How do you read/interpret this?? 
The BCC Mtg is AT the County Atty&#039;s OFFICE??? 
Or the CA is leading the discussion on Public vs. Private Beaches? 
 :idontno: 
</blockquote> 
Typically, the way it works is that the County Commission directs the County Attorney to present information on topics of interest to them. They may be new items or stem from previous meetings where the BCC has directed the County Attorney to do research. It looks like this is a case of both, new (access) and old (licensing agreement). The meeting is the regular BCC meeting its just that&#039;s the time slot the item will be heard. Keep in mind though that those times may slip so get there early if you are interested.

[quote="BeachSiO2, post: 300106"]Typically, the way it works is that the County Commission directs the County Attorney to present information on topics of interest to them.  They may be new items or stem from previous meetings where the BCC has directed the County Attorney to do research.  It looks like this is a case of both, new (access) and old (licensing agreement).  The meeting is the regular BCC meeting its just that's the time slot the item will be heard.  Keep in mind though that those times may slip so get there early if you are interested.[/quote]

Thanks!  I plan to attend.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="BeachSiO2">Typically, the way it works is that the County Commission directs the County Attorney to present information on topics of interest to them. They may be new items or stem from previous meetings where the BCC has directed the County Attorney to do research. It looks like this is a case of both, new (access) and old (licensing agreement). The meeting is the regular BCC meeting its just that&#039;s the time slot the item will be heard. Keep in mind though that those times may slip so get there early if you are interested.</blockquote> 
Thanks! I plan to attend.

[quote="Dune-AHH, post: 300132"]Thanks!  I plan to attend.[/quote]

See you there

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Dune-AHH">Thanks! I plan to attend.</blockquote> 
See you there

There appears to be increasing conflict about beach access and beach rights. Concerns include how this could affect tourism and property value. 

It seems that private guards at Seaside and Rosemary Beach have not only restricted public access but also public use of the beach. 

In addition, the Sheriff has been authorized to remove, arrest and ticket anyone on a ?private beach? at the request of "private beach" owner.

There was a telling letter to the editor in the recent Walton Sun from a tourist whose wife and children were expelled from a beach due to the complaint by a private beach owner.

 ?...my family and I were removed from the beach by a Walton County deputy after an irate man, identifying himself as a property owner, decided he did not like children playing on ?his? beach.?

At the upcoming county commissioner meeting on Tuesday, October 9, 2007 beginning at 4:00 PM at the South Walton Courthouse Annex the County attorney will present a written memorandum on ?Public Beach Access: Use of the Dry Sand & The Doctrine of Customary Usage?.

If you can not attend the meeting please let your concerns be know to the below:

Commissioner Scott Brannon 
District 1 
[email]brascott@co.walton.fl.us[/email]
(850) 622-3081 
 
Commissioner Ken Pridgen
District 2
[email]prikenneth@co.walton.fl.us[/email]
(850) 834-6328
 
Commissioner Sara Comander
District 4
[email]comsara@co.walton.fl.us[/email]
(850) 835-4834
 
Commissioner Cindy Meadows 
District 5
[email]meacindy@co.walton.fl.us[/email]
(850) 622-3059 

Commissioner Larry Jones 
District 3 
[email]jonlarry@co.walton.fl.us[/email] <mailto:jonlarry@cowalton.fl.us> 
(850) 892-8474

There appears to be increasing conflict about beach access and beach rights. Concerns include how this could affect tourism and property value. 
 
It seems that private guards at Seaside and Rosemary Beach have not only restricted public access but also public use of the beach. 
 
In addition, the Sheriff has been authorized to remove, arrest and ticket anyone on a ?private beach? at the request of &quot;private beach&quot; owner. 
 
There was a telling letter to the editor in the recent Walton Sun from a tourist whose wife and children were expelled from a beach due to the complaint by a private beach owner. 
 
 ?...my family and I were removed from the beach by a Walton County deputy after an irate man, identifying himself as a property owner, decided he did not like children playing on ?his? beach.? 
 
At the upcoming county commissioner meeting on Tuesday, October 9, 2007 beginning at 4:00 PM at the South Walton Courthouse Annex the County attorney will present a written memorandum on ?Public Beach Access: Use of the Dry Sand &amp; The Doctrine of Customary Usage?. 
 
If you can not attend the meeting please let your concerns be know to the below: 
 
Commissioner Scott Brannon 
District 1 
<a href="mailto:brascott@co.walton.fl.us">brascott@co.walton.fl.us</a> 
(850) 622-3081 
 
Commissioner Ken Pridgen 
District 2 
<a href="mailto:prikenneth@co.walton.fl.us">prikenneth@co.walton.fl.us</a> 
(850) 834-6328 
 
Commissioner Sara Comander 
District 4 
<a href="mailto:comsara@co.walton.fl.us">comsara@co.walton.fl.us</a> 
(850) 835-4834 
 
Commissioner Cindy Meadows 
District 5 
<a href="mailto:meacindy@co.walton.fl.us">meacindy@co.walton.fl.us</a> 
(850) 622-3059 
 
Commissioner Larry Jones 
District 3 
<a href="mailto:jonlarry@co.walton.fl.us">jonlarry@co.walton.fl.us</a> &lt;mailto:jonlarry@cowalton.fl.us&gt; 
(850) 892-8474

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