a friend of mine sent me these pics of the beautiful senora desert. understandable why they are trying to stop illigal immigration. this is a trail from mexico leading to tuscon. quite the well traveled path.
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36SoWal Insider
Well, you're right about apples and oranges. However, 'When in Rome' is the point. Da law is da law.
Banned
They don't, hence the problem.
They point is why should they? If you were in their situation would you "cheat" in order to gain citizenship to our country? I could say without a doubt that I would and feel not the least bit of remorse. Immigration laws are statutory and arbitrary. They are like beach driving permits.
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Beach Fanatic
Since this seems to be a well traveled path, perhaps the State of Arizona should put a dumpster on site for the crapola....
Perhaps with a placard: Bienvenido a Arizona. Ponga su mierda aqu? dentro
Perhaps with a placard: Bienvenido a Arizona. Ponga su mierda aqu? dentro

Beach Lover
How about this courtesy of your tax dollars? beautiful, no?
this strangely reminds me of oil booms. pointless really...
It's not just the immigrants. Look at our beaches in the middle of summer.
I couldn't have said it any better. bravo!
Banned
The problem is because they cheat to get in; they then cheat the system once they arrive.
They can't be law abiding citizens when they have broken the law.
If they truly want to be here to make a better life for themselves, then make them legal, let them pay taxes, let them have driver's license so when they run over me from being drunk they won't bolt and run because they are illegal and have no license and no insurance. Give them ID so they can be prosecuted.
If they want to contribute and not take away, then let them come.
Many people could care less in other parts of the country about the oil spill. I know many people that are very willing to have off shore driling because it does not personally affect them.
It's very easy to not care about something or understand it, when it does not affect your backyard.
I'm not saying there are no bad guys. I'm saying that good guys (in my opinion) will violate these statutes and then go on to live good lives and contribute to society. It happens, that's all I'm saying. That bothers some people, not me.
Banned
Well, you're right about apples and oranges. However, 'When in Rome' is the point. Da law is da law.
You completely miss the point, they are not tourists with cameras and designer shorts and their airline tickets in their shirt pocket biatching because they cant find good grits in Milan.
SoWal Insider
You completely miss the point, they are not tourists with cameras and designer shorts and their airline tickets in their shirt pocket biatching because they cant find good grits in Milan.
Really? OK, Lucifer, ok. Whatever you believe about others, let's just go with that. FYI - I hardly miss your point.
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Really? OK, Lucifer, ok. Whatever you believe about others, let's just go with that. FYI - I hardly miss your point.
Fair enough, I shouldn't have said that. I just think it's funny that people expect fugitives to be neat and tidy when they are trying to get away with something. It would be like expecting someone in a high speed car chase to use his turn signals when he changes lanes.
SoWal Expert
i'm here to tell you these pictures wern't taken by militia members(that just makes me laugh) but there is an agenda. to try and get the message out that there is a problem in arizona. bottom line.
Sorry if I misspoke, I thought they were from an email that has been circulating since 2007 with pictures taken on June 27 of that year, by Lance Altherr, leader of the Tuscon Chapter of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.
Look like the same photos to me:
http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/restarea.asp
Was trying to head off the typical source/bias/agenda squabble by stating that they do accurately depict the situation.
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Beach ComberAuthor
Sorry if I misspoke, I thought they were from an email that has been circulating since 2007 with pictures taken on June 27 of that year, by Lance Altherr, leader of the Tuscon Chapter of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.
Look like the same photos to me:
snopes.com: Arizona Rest Area
Was trying to head off the typical source/bias/agenda squabble by stating that they do accurately depict the situation.
hey scooter
you definatly did not misspeak! i was mislead by my friend in phoenix that these pix came from him! thanks for he heads up - i do appreciate it! these pictures just shocked me. like i said i lived in phx for years befor comming here and i hate to see the beautiful desert being distroyed lide this. again-thanks for setting it straight where these pics originated from!
SoWal Insider
Sorry if I misspoke, I thought they were from an email that has been circulating since 2007 with pictures taken on June 27 of that year, by Lance Altherr, leader of the Tuscon Chapter of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.
Look like the same photos to me:
snopes.com: Arizona Rest Area
Was trying to head off the typical source/bias/agenda squabble by stating that they do accurately depict the situation.
I thought I saw this before as well. In any event, it sends the message.
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