Bridge Addition for US HWY 331

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  1. Bob Wells

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    Who are these folks? I have not been able to put a name with a group and obviously its not something they advertise far and wide.
     
  2. idlewind

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    See the 331 land deal, same cast of characters.
     
  3. h2tsalon

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    331 bridge

    If you still have a home phone, you may receive a phone call about the 331 bridge. Trying to survey how to pay for the new bridge! They are trying not to make it a toll bridge but if it should be what would be a reasonable toll!! The survey ask if you would pay $5 to get over the bridge. This has always been a worry, since we knew about the new bridge. I believe that there should be at least one free bridge that goes across the bay. Alot of people live on the Freeport side and work at the beach. It is already hard enough to find workers in sowal, this will put a few people out of business. Please let the survey know this is not what we want!!
     
  4. Alicia Leonard

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    My neighbors got polled about this. They were cool with the questions until they started asking about political affiliations.
     
  5. idlewind

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    What does political affiliations have to do with whether 331 should be 4-laned or not? And whether or not it should be a toll road?
     
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    The Daily news is reporting that in order for the State to be able to widen 331 the County needs to come up with 75 million and that the only way to do it is by turning 331 into a toll bridge or an additional 1 cent sales tax.

    I know that 331 needs to be widened but the idea of a toll bridge being the only way to cross the bay in Walton County seems to be a terible idea. The idea of making it harder for businesses in Walton County to compete by raising the cost of every item by 1 percent by raising the sales tax also seems wrong. I do not have an answere but 331 is a state maintained road and the state should have moved to create a four lane road years ago and now for the county to get a four lane road the state is is going to force the county to take on paying for major portions of a State Maintained road.
     
  7. rocketman

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    331 Bridge Widening

    Thank you for your comments. Quite frankly, I am ignorant regarding infrastructure finance. However, as I traverse throughout our area one has to note the new bridge built in West Bay and the new bridge that is being completed over Holmes Creek in Vernon (same highway). How are they being financed? It appears that our neighbors to the east have been put in the forefront of infrastructure improvements. Would someone please enlighten me (us) on the financing and priorities of these projects?

    Rock on,
    Rocketman
     
  8. TheZohan

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    Why do they need a task force? I thought that is why we have county commissioners to come up with ideas to get voted on
     
  9. soappedaler

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    Why don't they use the BP money to partially fund the county's share, it's sure to be wasted on something stupid that everybody's brother-in-law will profit from.
     
  10. Lake View Too

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    This is exactly right. Right now, because of the influx of BP money, is the right time to fund the bridge. We need a four lane bridge, which benefits everybody, a lot more than a fish hatchery.
     
  11. scooterbug44

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    IMO we would already have a 4 lane 331 if the same old players hadn't been spending their time and our tax money trying to make themselves more money at our expense with a private toll bridge.
     
  12. wrobert

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    Idlewind,

    You ought to go back and read the newspapers during the times all of this funding was being settled. You can not sit over here and insult the sitting Governor and the Secretary of DOT while at the same time holding out your hand and asking for a project to be funded. May not be the correct way of doing things, but those people are human, get offended, and wield their power in a way as to show our leaders that they are not going to take it. The repercussions of these self-serving actions are felt years later as these projects are being done.
     
  13. beachFool

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    The BP money has strings attached.

    Generally speaking, those funds have to go to ecosystems that were impacted by the oil spill.

    With a fish hatchery, we would replace the fish wiped out by the oil and dispersant.

    Plus someone's BIL could profit also!
     
  14. rocketman

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    Help!

    Buz:
    Again, I am ignorant. In your comment, you mentioned the acronym BIL. What is BIL?

    Rock on,
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    BROTHER IN LAW. (see soappedaler's quote)

    Obviously it was a feeble attempt at humor.

    I'll try again.

    Maybe we can spray dispersant on the hatchlings so they can develope a tolerance.
     
  16. Lake View Too

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    Fish are good, no doubt, but isn't the business of South Walton County about bringing peeps down from up north, and 85% of them don't care a crap about fish.
     
  17. Jdarg

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    I was thinking the same thing.
     
  18. NotDeadYet

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    If I am understanding the toll bridge proposal correctly, it would be a second parallel bridge that would be southbound, and the present bridge would be the northbound bridge. Wouldn't this leave the existing causeways intact, then?
    For years one of the county's excuses for not getting a new bridge built was the supposed insistence of DEP to remove the causeways to improve water flow through the bay. This runs up the cost considerably, but they managed it okay when they rebuilt the bridge over St Andrews Bay.
    Since the bay ecosystem was impacted by the oil spill (denials notwithstanding) it seems to me that we have even more of a reason to ask BP to pony up for a whole new bridge from shore to shore with no causeways.
     
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    The fish hatchery is a suggestion for use of funds from BP that are intended to improve the local economies in a meaningful way, separate from tourism promotion or cleanup or restoring the ecosystem.
     
  20. soappedaler

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    I rarely cross the 331 bridge so a toll would not affect me personally. People working at shops, construction etc would the ones impacted and the least able to afford a toll even if a sunpass type system were put into service.
    The 331 bridge and 4 laneing of the highway is just another example of poor planning on the part of Walton County Commissioners through the years.
     

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