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Beach Lover
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Election time is near. I have watched this forum. I have seen lies and misdirection of the facts on here. Everyone get out and vote. I urge each and every single one of you to look up the facts on all of the candidates in every race. Don't take people's word for it and don't take mine. Look at who is suing the county and why. Look at the supporters of each candidate and see what they are about. Look at how they act. Who really wants the best for this county? I'll take a group of small business owners who want to protect other small business owners over big business any day. I'll take honesty over lawsuits. I will take what best for the county has a whole over what's best for a small group. Don't let hearsay help make your decision for a vote. Walton county get out and vote. Walton county politics will never be the same.

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Beach LoverAuthor
#102
I have given you the opportunity to prove me wrong.
You have the burden to prove. I will say thank you for staying to the facts and not personally attacking me.
Beach Lover
#103
Tony's business partner stole from him and in the settlement bought him out. The small business was formed to stop the parking ordinance. Let me ask you something. You own a small business it burns down. Now to get a building permit you have add way more parking and you no longer can afford to have that business. Is this ok in your mind?

So glad we got to facts. IF the ordinance had been approved existing businesses would have been grandfathered. They could then do what is still available now and that's called a statement of compliance. Once they have that they are covered. Place burns down, it could be rebuilt to as before condition (except for wiring, windows etc.) ie same size and parking with no problems. Easy stuff. The ordinance would only apply to new businesses OR a business that wants to expand beyond what was allowed before the ordinance. Meaning if you want to stay the same size and impact, no problem. Want to get bigger and change then comply with the new rules. A very fair compromise and any business that can only expand if it doesn't follow the rules simply isn't good for anybody but the owner. Again Born and Bred more facts.
Beach LoverAuthor
#104
So glad we got to facts. IF the ordinance had been approved existing businesses would have been grandfathered. They could then do what is still available now and that's called a statement of compliance. Once they have that they are covered. Place burns down, it could be rebuilt to as before condition (except for wiring, windows etc.) ie same size and parking with no problems. Easy stuff. The ordinance would only apply to new businesses OR a business that wants to expand beyond what was allowed before the ordinance. Meaning if you want to stay the same size and impact, no problem. Want to get bigger and change then comply with the new rules. A very fair compromise and any business that can only expand if it doesn't follow the rules simply isn't good for anybody but the owner. Again Born and Bred more facts.
Not what I read. If it burns down then you would not be able to rebuilt it the same.
Bob Wells avatar
Beach Fanatic
#105
And cost you me and other taxpayers lot of money. Yay what did that win really do to help the issues of the county? It didn't help us get more roads cut in to 30a.
I agree that there was a lot of money lost. According to the courts it was legit, you ought to be angry with Representative Gaetz, cause while he was suing Walion County he wasn't holding Governor Scott accountable for his sunshine laws violations which we paid for also and were significant dollars also.
earl avatar
Beach Lover
#106
You're not drunk, are you, because you just replied to yourself.
Are you now accusing people of having issues, did you run out insults ?
Beach LoverAuthor
#107
We got any movers if Tony wins? Mexico beach maybe easier to take over.
Beach LoverAuthor
#108
Are you now accusing people of having issues, did you run out insults ?
Cindy supporters=hate
Beach Lover
#109
Bob, how do you know gaetz knew about the violations before the state got sued? He wasn't named and had no privilege to the information? I never heard of it until the lawsuit wasn't dismissed and published in the Tampa paper.
Bob Wells avatar
Beach Fanatic
#110
You have the burden to prove. I will say thank you for staying to the facts and not personally attacking me.
No where have you been attacked, just asking who you were talking about legislativelyrics and you haven't answered that.
Beach LoverAuthor
#111
No where have you been attacked, just asking who you were talking about legislativelyrics and you haven't answered that.
I know I wasnt being sarcastic. I was serious, thank you. The rest on here throw insults when you don't agree with them. Legislativelyrics?
Beach LoverAuthor
#112
What did the great Martin Luther King say? Darkness can't change darkness only the light can do that. Just like hate can't drive out hate only love can drive out hate

Cindy supporters=hate
Bob Wells avatar
Beach Fanatic
#113
Bob, how do you know gaetz knew about the violations before the state got sued? He wasn't named and had no privilege to the information? I never heard of it until the lawsuit wasn't dismissed and published in the Tampa paper.
It was in paper before as an accusation before it was settle. My point was he never spoke about it either before or after. It does seem that it was in the Chat Holley issue was going on.
Bob Wells avatar
Beach Fanatic
#114
I know I wasnt being sarcastic. I was serious, thank you. The rest on here throw insults when you don't agree with them. Legislativelyrics?
Autocorrect... sometime, OK most times I don't proofread
Jimmy T avatar
Beach Fanatic
#115
What did the great Martin Luther King say? Darkness can't change darkness only the light can do that. Just like hate can't drive out hate only love can drive out hate

Cindy supporters=hate
I thought you said you needed to go to sleep. It's way past your bedtime. :)
Misty avatar
Banned
#116
And cost you me and other taxpayers lot of money. Yay what did that win really do to help the issues of the county? It didn't help us get more roads cut in to 30a.


Uhh, hate to bust your bubble, I personally didn't cost you a dime but it was worth every penny the taxpayers had to pay to prove you can't NOT operate in the Sunshine and get away with it.

You won't get roads cut on 30A by Tony being elected either. The BCC already admitted they are 2 years behind just on current projects.
Beach LoverAuthor
#117
Uhh, hate to bust your bubble, I personally didn't cost you a dime but it was worth every penny the taxpayers had to pay to prove you can't NOT operate in the Sunshine and get away with it.

You won't get roads cut on 30A by Tony being elected either. The BCC already admitted they are 2 years behind just on current projects.
I never said you cost me money. I said it cost us money. You are a taxpayer right?
Beach LoverAuthor
#118
I thought you said you needed to go to sleep. It's way past your bedtime. :)
Actually it is. Thanks Jimmy.

early bird gets the worm and Tony wins the election by a landslide.
Misty avatar
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#119
Did you really just say I support illegal activities? Did I read that right? Are you freaking kidding me?


You're the one complaining about open honest, government operated in the Sunshine and the money that was spent to ensure that it happened. You're the one unhappy about what it cost the taxpayers. I think it should have happened EONS ago and we wouldn't still be dealing with this stupid :poop: today!
Misty avatar
Banned
#120
I never said you cost me money. I said it cost us money. You are a taxpayer right?
Ok. You're right once. My apology. Was on the phone and typing at the same time.
Banned
#121
I have a few points to make on this...

If Cindy Meadows master's degree in PLANNING and experience in PLANNING and her other education in PLANNING is so important to her qualifications for reelection, as has been repeated constantly...why are you excusing the fact that Walton County's PLANNING department...under her supervision as a commissioner...failed to collect more than $600,000 in District 5 recreation plat fees during Meadows' first term? Shouldn't someone whose expertise is in PLANNING know or notice it?

If you say she shouldn't have noticed it because it was not her job....fine, I actually AGREE with you...but you just can't have it both ways. Either she's a PLANNING guru and invaluable for her PLANNING expertise or she's not responsible and can't be held responsible and therefore the experience isn't particularly helpful.

Plus...the candidate with PLANNING experience was reprimanded by a grand jury...for not following PLANNING procedures.

As far as Tony Anderson being a mailman, good for him. That is a good job and an important one for society. Criticizing him for doing that job is simply childish and petty and it makes the people saying it look elitist at best and just nasty and immature at worst.

Abe Lincoln started as a mailman folks....look it up!

And for the love of a God stop obsessing over Lloyd Blue. It's absolutely creepy the way he is mentioned so many times on here. He's a private citizen folks....PRIVATE CITIZEN.........
John G avatar
Beach Fanatic
#122
I'm starting to see a theme. If your a good man you get hammered in this forum. Brad Drake is great man and a great Rep.

Brad Drake is a joke. A puppet, nothing more. What has he ever done for Walton County? Patriot G is right, he sold out to M. Coley.

As for the Cindy Supporters = hate, I think a more accurate equation would be:

Cindy Supporters = hate B.S. that's being going on in Walton County and Good Ole' Boyz Politricks.

As for the parking ordinance the SBA fought against and the question about a business burning down, a grandfather clause to protect already existing businesses solves that problem.

Does anyone think it's right for all the overflow to be parked all over the bike paths?
John G avatar
Beach Fanatic
#123
I have a few points to make on this...

If Cindy Meadows master's degree in PLANNING and experience in PLANNING and her other education in PLANNING is so important to her qualifications for reelection, as has been repeated constantly...why are you excusing the fact that Walton County's PLANNING department...under her supervision as a commissioner...failed to collect more than $600,000 in District 5 recreation plat fees during Meadows' first term? Shouldn't someone whose expertise is in PLANNING know or notice it?

If you say she shouldn't have noticed it because it was not her job....fine, I actually AGREE with you...but you just can't have it both ways. Either she's a PLANNING guru and invaluable for her PLANNING expertise or she's not responsible and can't be held responsible and therefore the experience isn't particularly helpful.

Plus...the candidate with PLANNING experience was reprimanded by a grand jury...for not following PLANNING procedures.

As far as Tony Anderson being a mailman, good for him. That is a good job and an important one for society. Criticizing him for doing that job is simply childish and petty and it makes the people saying it look elitist at best and just nasty and immature at worst.

Abe Lincoln started as a mailman folks....look it up!

And for the love of a God stop obsessing over Lloyd Blue. It's absolutely creepy the way he is mentioned so many times on here. He's a private citizen folks....PRIVATE CITIZEN.........

Grand Jury was a JOKE.

Go read the documents and interviews that the State released.

THAN, go back and request the other interviews they DID NOT release, which are now recently PR, and read those.

Once you do that, I think you'll see a different picture and an investigation with an Agenda, it wasn't Justice.

Shameful!
Dawn avatar
Beach Fanatic
#124
Cindy Meadows has been our only defense against the ole boy network. She has fought hard. I admire that she is willing to keep fighting.
Danny Glidewell avatar
Beach Fanatic
#125
Indestructible, this is not for or against any candidate, just some facts and observations. Planning and Finance/Accounting are two very different disciplines. A Planning expert would not be responsible for an accounting failure and would not have the expertise to find a problem. That would take an accounting background. In this particular case a commissioner would never see the journals/receipt books/financial programs to even begin to identify a problem. Neither would the county Finance Director. Remittances go through the Comptroller of the Board which is in the Clerk of Courts office. The person/entity that is responsible for identifying such a problem would be the accounting firm hired to do the annual audit of the books.
2nd, I would have a problem with someone who had never worked but honor and respect anyone who does work. Staying with one firm for 30 years indicates a loyal, competent person which has value as well. That is one component of deciding who to vote for as well as education, government experience, service to the community and core principles of the individual. Then their positions on the key issues should be examined as should the individuals who support the candidate and what their goals and desires are. Elections have consequences and so it is vital to elect people who want to build a better quality of life for every citizen.
Misty avatar
Banned
#126
I have a few points to make on this...

If Cindy Meadows master's degree in PLANNING and experience in PLANNING and her other education in PLANNING is so important to her qualifications for reelection, as has been repeated constantly...why are you excusing the fact that Walton County's PLANNING department...under her supervision as a commissioner...failed to collect more than $600,000 in District 5 recreation plat fees during Meadows' first term? Shouldn't someone whose expertise is in PLANNING know or notice it?

If you say she shouldn't have noticed it because it was not her job....fine, I actually AGREE with you...but you just can't have it both ways. Either she's a PLANNING guru and invaluable for her PLANNING expertise or she's not responsible and can't be held responsible and therefore the experience isn't particularly helpful.

Plus...the candidate with PLANNING experience was reprimanded by a grand jury...for not following PLANNING procedures.

As far as Tony Anderson being a mailman, good for him. That is a good job and an important one for society. Criticizing him for doing that job is simply childish and petty and it makes the people saying it look elitist at best and just nasty and immature at worst.

Abe Lincoln started as a mailman folks....look it up!

And for the love of a God stop obsessing over Lloyd Blue. It's absolutely creepy the way he is mentioned so many times on here. He's a private citizen folks....PRIVATE CITIZEN.........


@Bob Hudson , I can't pull up the grand jury findings but please correct me if I'm wrong. Did that money not go uncollected in 2002 before Ms. Meadows was a county commissioner?

@Indestructible it wasn't her job! Yet, you keep harping that it was her responsibility. Have your cake and eat it too often?

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