Don't take my word for it

Who are the rich and powerful giving their money to? That's who usually wins elections.

Never mind @Bob Hudson. I found it. Meadows was elected in 2004 and would have taken office no later than Nov. of that year. The error was discovered in 2008 and brought to the attention of Planning Department Director Patsy Blackshear. A memo, in the form of an email dated May 21, 2008, was written by planning department employee Melissa Ward and sent to Blackshear. In that email, Ward accepts responsibility for the under-billing error concerning Lakeside at Blue Mountain Beach. A copy of the email was placed "in the file." According to the grand jury report, "There's no evidence that this error was ever brought to the attention of Ms. Blackshear's supervisors or County Commissioners. Evidence indicates that no further action was taken to collect the unpaid fees."

Speaking of which, wasn't Blackshear arrested for lying to the Grand Jury on 2 different occasions about the uncollected fees? What happened with that arrest?

So, who *KNOWINGLY* hid the evidence @Indestructible??????

Never mind @Bob Hudson. I found it. Meadows was elected in 2004 and would have taken office no later than Nov. of that year. The error was discovered in 2008 and brought to the attention of Planning Department Director Patsy Blackshear. A memo, in the form of an email dated May 21, 2008, was written by planning department employee Melissa Ward and sent to Blackshear. In that email, Ward accepts responsibility for the under-billing error concerning Lakeside at Blue Mountain Beach. A copy of the email was placed "in the file." According to the grand jury report, "There's no evidence that this error was ever brought to the attention of Ms. Blackshear's supervisors or County Commissioners. Evidence indicates that no further action was taken to collect the unpaid fees."

Speaking of which, wasn't Blackshear arrested for lying to the Grand Jury on 2 different occasions about the uncollected fees? What happened with that arrest?

So, who *KNOWINGLY* hid the evidence @Indestructible??????

Appreciate the research but please share links or docs you find.

Appreciate the research but please share links or docs you find.

It's in the Grand Jury Report.

It's in the Grand Jury Report.

Where can I find it?

Where can I find it?

If the file I uploaded doesn't work go to the search engine for this forum and query a search for Grand Jury report posted orignally by Bob Hudson.

I think there is a copy on the thread on the grand jury. Also I heard in the laird case that one of the key witnesses has testified to something else in deposition. Her husband (county employee) was fired for stealing gas from the county. The good thing is when the laird case is over, it will all become public record and we will all know what really happened when we read it in black in white.

What's funny is laird had already said he was suing when the grand jury convened yet they stood Meadows up on it. Sara Commander was being sued but the states attorney refused to show the grand Jury the email Sara wrote to the legal department directing them to not announce a public hearing because she didn't want a certain citizen there. The grand jurys presented information was filtered. You can't blame the jury because they only know what was presented to them. the stuff some connected people didn't want them to see never saw the light of day.

What's funny is laird had already said he was suing when the grand jury convened yet they stood Meadows up on it. Sara Commander was being sued but the states attorney refused to show the grand Jury the email Sara wrote to the legal department directing them to not announce a public hearing because she didn't want a certain citizen there. The grand jurys presented information was filtered. You can't blame the jury because they only know what was presented to them. the stuff some connected people didn't want them to see never saw the light of day.

In addition, things that Cindy Meadows and Larry Jones were reprimanded for are the exact same things C. Jones continues to micro manage in County Government and she was also responsible for hiring or having hired her own mouthpieces in the Planning Department. That was never presented to the GJ.

I think we agree the problems that face us are a little bit more than parking. Do you want an urban planner with eight years experience in county government or do you want a mailman for county commissioner?

You and I do not agree very often but in this instance we agree completely. Cindy Meadows, the only qualified candidate, to remain our BCC Commissioner. I might further mention that urban planning includes a Master's Degree in urban affairs.

I think there is a copy on the thread on the grand jury. Also I heard in the laird case that one of the key witnesses has testified to something else in deposition. Her husband (county employee) was fired for stealing gas from the county. The good thing is when the laird case is over, it will all become public record and we will all know what really happened when we read it in black in white.

I hope most people understand how the Grand Jury works.

The State Attorney conducted numerous interviews with multiple people. Then, they basically cherry picked the interviews and information they wanted and submitted that to the Grand Jury. The "left overs" were just that, left over.

Now, the interviews that were never to be released, are in fact public record and they tell a bit of a different story than that sad excuse for an investigation does.

One might even surmise that the entire purpose of the Grand Jury was to find a scape goat, which they did = (Blackshear) and to create the necessary fodder for the new negative ad that came out about Meadows.

I believe the witness you refer to was a Code Enforcement Officer and is now a Planner. That would explain why if her husband did steal anything from the County, he was not dealt with by the sheriff's office and just fired (or allowed to resign).

You are correct that when the Larid Case and the Blackshear Case are over, more facts will be know, but that will probably be after the election.

Any one know how that Auditor General is doing?

Mr Blue gave zero dollars to candidates nor I believe did any of his companies so that's factually inaccurate...being an engaged citizen does not open you up to being a public figure in the sense someone can continually accuse you of crimes as you do to him.

I hope most people understand how the Grand Jury works.

The State Attorney conducted numerous interviews with multiple people. Then, they basically cherry picked the interviews and information they wanted and submitted that to the Grand Jury. The "left overs" were just that, left over.

Now, the interviews that were never to be released, are in fact public record and they tell a bit of a different story than that sad excuse for an investigation does.

One might even surmise that the entire purpose of the Grand Jury was to find a scape goat, which they did = (Blackshear) and to create the necessary fodder for the new negative ad that came out about Meadows.

I believe the witness you refer to was a Code Enforcement Officer and is now a Planner. That would explain why if her husband did steal anything from the County, he was not dealt with by the sheriff's office and just fired (or allowed to resign).

You are correct that when the Larid Case and the Blackshear Case are over, more facts will be know, but that will probably be after the election.

Any one know how that Auditor General is doing?

Ok so you think the entire criminal justice system conspired to reprimand Cindy Meadows? I think that's a stretch, and that our law enforcement community does a really good job of keeping us safe...and that they are not corrupt in any way.

Mr Blue gave zero dollars to candidates nor I believe did any of his companies so that's factually inaccurate...being an engaged citizen does not open you up to being a public figure in the sense someone can continually accuse you of crimes as you do to him.

What crimes?

What crimes?

Yeah there are no crimes...that's my point!

I'm not going to go back and pull the quotes...there are too many posts to wade through. My point is private citizens deserve privacy and not to be dragged through the mud whether you like them or not.

Mr Blue gave zero dollars to candidates nor I believe did any of his companies so that's factually inaccurate...being an engaged citizen does not open you up to being a public figure in the sense someone can continually accuse you of crimes as you do to him.

You might wanna check the Supervisor of Elections website and campaign contributions on that.

You might wanna check the Supervisor of Elections website and campaign contributions on that.

Oh, I did. I looked for this election and the last...nothing!

Ok so you think the entire criminal justice system conspired to reprimand Cindy Meadows? I think that's a stretch, and that our law enforcement community does a really good job of keeping us safe...and that they are not corrupt in any way.

No, I don't think the entire criminal justice system conspired to reprimand Cindy Meadows. I think she did just exactly what appeared to be standard operating procedure. Ms. Meadows hired someone, C. Jones didn't like it even though she had done exactly what Ms. Meadows had done and continues to do and she used her own political connections to get a Grand Jury Investigation which only looked at Cindy Meadows and Larry Jones because that was ALL the information they were given! Had the Jury been instructed to look at C. Jones and a few others I'm sure the outcome would have resulted in a few more "reprimands".

No, I don't think the entire criminal justice system conspired to reprimand Cindy Meadows. I think she did just exactly what appeared to be standard operating procedure. Ms. Meadows hired someone, C. Jones didn't like it even though she had done exactly what Ms. Meadows had done and continues to do and she used her own political connections to get a Grand Jury Investigation which only looked at Cindy Meadows and Larry Jones because that was ALL the information they were given! Had the Jury been instructed to look at C. Jones and a few others I'm sure the outcome would have resulted in a few more "reprimands".

They didn't only look at Meadows and Jones, where are you getting this information? It's incorrect.

Oh, I did. I looked for this election and the last...nothing!

Mmmm k. Neither did his atty and half the WCSBA members....LOL!

They didn't only look at Meadows and Jones, where are you getting this information? It's incorrect.

From the Grand Jury report!

From the Grand Jury report!

The grand jury heard testimony about a ton of people and they chose to issue the report they did. The report does not say they were only presented evidence about meadows and Larry jones.

Mr Blue gave zero dollars to candidates nor I believe did any of his companies so that's factually inaccurate...being an engaged citizen does not open you up to being a public figure in the sense someone can continually accuse you of crimes as you do to him.

What crimes?

From the Grand Jury report!

Bottom line: Meadows should apologize. Her failure to do so is disqualifying.

The grand jury heard testimony about a ton of people and they chose to issue the report they did. The report does not say they were only presented evidence about meadows and Larry jones.

Was C. Jones questioned about the people she had hired in the Planning Dept?