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145Beach Lover
your Mom named you 'peterpan'?
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Beach Fanatic
your Mom named you 'peterpan'?
No got it from the movie Cramer .
Beach ComberAuthor
Misty no one needs you to explain to them what a sock puppet is ok. My identity is one of the 3 or 4 recently registered that you just mentioned. So just remember that I'm no sock puppet. I'm also here to tell you that your suspicions of a "motley crew" that you think is a single individual out there creating identities and sock puppets is not true. No need to go through all that trouble, when there are plenty of people, along with myself that wished Suzanne Harris would buy ALL her groceries in Birmingham.
Beach Fanatic
Misty no one needs you to explain to them what a sock puppet is ok. My identity is one of the 3 or 4 recently registered that you just mentioned. So just remember that I'm no sock puppet. I'm also here to tell you that your suspicions of a "motley crew" that you think is a single individual out there creating identities and sock puppets is not true. No need to go through all that trouble, when there are plenty of people, along with myself that wished Suzanne Harris would buy ALL her groceries in Birmingham.
Yes the crooks would take over with no one to watch. Scott would be leading the parade she cost him a lot of money and control.
Beach Lover
your Mom named you 'peterpan'?Your mom named you Seaducer?
Banned
Your mom named you Seaducer?
NO genius, but I didn't call people out for using "fake names" like they did.
try to keep up
Beach Fanatic
How many new sowal IDs has this post created?
Time to call it a day folks...
Time to call it a day folks...
Beach ComberAuthor
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Adjacent and effected property owners notify Ms. Harris, Walton County, and DEP of the un permitted construction activity on July 16, 2014.
Beach ComberAuthor
Getting back on Subject
Banned
The HOA fees at Edgewater must be high. Paying for all the legal garbage can get expensive.
Beach Fanatic
This was written by the president of Shipwatch Mark Walker for the attorney. From what I hear the wall is staying. Do not forget Shipwatch had plans to fill the front of the lake and put in parking on their part of the lake. I think they are just upset Edgewater did their fill first and this may stop Shipwatch from adding parking. Edgewater never planned to ad parking of any kind.
Banned
Let's face it, people have chosen sides and this is nitpicking. I seriously doubt that Ms. Harris would do something that would harm any of the properties in the vicinity of Edgewater. And who gives a s**t where a person's legal residence is as long as they aren't running for or hold public office. There are people holding public office who don't live in the places they represent.
Beach ComberAuthor
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Beach Lover
Let's face it, people have chosen sides and this is nitpicking. I seriously doubt that Ms. Harris would do something that would harm any of the properties in the vicinity of Edgewater. And who gives a s**t where a person's legal residence is as long as they aren't running for or hold public office. There are people holding public office who don't live in the places they represent.I choose Ms. Harris's side. It seems like anybody who has what it takes to call out the local politicians is a target of the political machine.
Beach Fanatic
Those air photo shots appear to have been taken from a "drone" or specialized remote control helicopter.
Did anyone bother to get FAA permits for this? If you think I'm kidding, look it up. Permit for such activity is required.
If someone was hired to do this, that's also another issue with FAA and permits... Check it out, don't take my word on it.
Did anyone bother to get FAA permits for this? If you think I'm kidding, look it up. Permit for such activity is required.
If someone was hired to do this, that's also another issue with FAA and permits... Check it out, don't take my word on it.
Beach Fanatic
I have not commented on this issue until now because so much of what has been said has been personality instead of issue driven on both sides. When you forget the personalities and look at the issue itself you find some important points.
1. If it is true that you do not need a permit to fill in a lake, then the county has a real problem. Considering that you need a permit to do just about anything regarding building, even on your own property, that would be a huge loophole that needs closing.
2. If you do need a permit and such a permit exists for this project, then is that very good policy? With all the storm water issues in the South End, it would seem that issuing a permit to fill in a natural basin that can collect some of that water is shortsighted at best.
3. If a permit is needed and does not exist, then this matter should be moving towards correction much more quickly than it seems. It would also seem that at least a hefty fine should also follow. Considering that a gentleman in the North End was allegedly booked on a felony last week for moving rocks in a county ditch, that would seem to be a light penalty indeed.
4. If this is a frivolous complaint on the other hand, then hopefully there is some mechanism in place to allow the property owner to recoup their legal fees and damages.
5. I don't know all the facts and await learning them to decide whom is right and whom is wrong.
1. If it is true that you do not need a permit to fill in a lake, then the county has a real problem. Considering that you need a permit to do just about anything regarding building, even on your own property, that would be a huge loophole that needs closing.
2. If you do need a permit and such a permit exists for this project, then is that very good policy? With all the storm water issues in the South End, it would seem that issuing a permit to fill in a natural basin that can collect some of that water is shortsighted at best.
3. If a permit is needed and does not exist, then this matter should be moving towards correction much more quickly than it seems. It would also seem that at least a hefty fine should also follow. Considering that a gentleman in the North End was allegedly booked on a felony last week for moving rocks in a county ditch, that would seem to be a light penalty indeed.
4. If this is a frivolous complaint on the other hand, then hopefully there is some mechanism in place to allow the property owner to recoup their legal fees and damages.
5. I don't know all the facts and await learning them to decide whom is right and whom is wrong.
Banned
The problem with recovering damages from the county is sovereign immunity. Government entities are only liable for tort claims up to $200,000.
SWGB
Those air photo shots appear to have been taken from a "drone" or specialized remote control helicopter.
Did anyone bother to get FAA permits for this? If you think I'm kidding, look it up. Permit for such activity is required.
If someone was hired to do this, that's also another issue with FAA and permits... Check it out, don't take my word on it.
No, actually you don't need any FAA permits to operate a drone.
Beach Comber
In general: I applaud the county for the enforcement of written codes!
Too many projects being rushed thru:
Thank you to the Turtle Watch Program who is enforcing the lighting law/ordinance.
This area; if it continues to grow un-checked, will ruin the entire reason we live hear.
(Just look at Atlanta's unchecked growth/traffic over the last 20 years!)
(Water quality at the beaches this summer)
Be careful what you wish for, we may get it!
Too much growth and not enough infrastructure. Do we really need another sports complex for the nearly arrived young families of the low value/cost D.R. Horton invasion?
(Value 8-10 million dollars of my tax money) (Rough estimate per newspaper)
Now we need to watch Interior Designers,furniture stores and people doing remodels on their own without a "Proper Contractor License. This is happening everyday. My contractor friends are loosing work to un-licensed people saying/doing all aspects of a project without proper training/knowledge or experience: Everyone is trying to do everything.
Just my personal thoughts. Agree or disagree....
Too many projects being rushed thru:
Thank you to the Turtle Watch Program who is enforcing the lighting law/ordinance.
This area; if it continues to grow un-checked, will ruin the entire reason we live hear.
(Just look at Atlanta's unchecked growth/traffic over the last 20 years!)
(Water quality at the beaches this summer)
Be careful what you wish for, we may get it!
Too much growth and not enough infrastructure. Do we really need another sports complex for the nearly arrived young families of the low value/cost D.R. Horton invasion?
(Value 8-10 million dollars of my tax money) (Rough estimate per newspaper)
Now we need to watch Interior Designers,furniture stores and people doing remodels on their own without a "Proper Contractor License. This is happening everyday. My contractor friends are loosing work to un-licensed people saying/doing all aspects of a project without proper training/knowledge or experience: Everyone is trying to do everything.
Just my personal thoughts. Agree or disagree....Edited
Beach Fanatic
No, actually you don't need any FAA permits to operate a drone.
And you might possibly be wrong. As long as you are flying it for non-commercial purposes, below 400 feet, you are probably OK. If someone was paid to take those pictures, and didn't have a permit, they could be punished by the FAA.
It's a very grey area.
http://www.npr.org/2014/08/10/339181964/where-can-drones-fly-legal-limits-are-up-in-the-air
Beach Fanatic
Too many projects being rushed thru: Thank you to the Turtle Watch Program who is enforcing the lighting law/ordinance. This area; if it continues to grow un-checked, will ruin the entire reason we live hear. (Just look at Atlanta's unchecked growth/traffic over the last 20 years!) (Water quality at the beaches this summer) Be careful what you wish for, we may get it! Too much growth and not enough infrastructure. Do we really need another sports complex for the nearly arrived young families of the low value/cost D.R. Horton invasion? (Value 8-10 million dollars of my tax money) (Rough estimate per newspaper) Now we need to watch Interior Designers,furniture stores and people doing remodels on their own without a "Proper Contractor License. This is happening everyday. My contractor friends are loosing work to un-licensed people saying/doing all aspects of a project without proper training/knowledge or experience: Everyone is trying to do everything.Everyone is trying to do everything. J.Buffet song line " Everybody has a cousin in Miami ". Every contractor around here can also do everything you want done or has a cousin who can..be careful,be VERY careful. As we all know it's easy to get a job quote it's just hard to get some to work or finish on time. If you are lucky enough to fine some Quality guys keep them close and happy, they will be there to help you.
Beach Fanatic
And you might possibly be wrong. As long as you are flying it for non-commercial purposes, below 400 feet, you are probably OK. If someone was paid to take those pictures, and didn't have a permit, they could be punished by the FAA.
It's a very grey area.
http://www.npr.org/2014/08/10/339181964/where-can-drones-fly-legal-limits-are-up-in-the-air
That was my point, thank you.
Banned
Those air photo shots appear to have been taken from a "drone" or specialized remote control helicopter.
Did anyone bother to get FAA permits for this? If you think I'm kidding, look it up. Permit for such activity is required.
If someone was hired to do this, that's also another issue with FAA and permits... Check it out, don't take my word on it.
I would imagine that a small "drone" would be like flying any R/C aircraft. Does the FAA require permits for flying toy airplanes?
Beach Fanatic
I would imagine that a small "drone" would be like flying any R/C aircraft. Does the FAA require permits for flying toy airplanes?Above 400 feet, yes.
Moderator
Above 400 feet, yes.
The only big no no is nothing above 400 near an airport. While there is a limit, I don't know that it is enforceable. Besides, RC airplanes get really tiny that far away.
Drones are a different animal. The good ones like the Phantom know where they are and will limit themselves if they are near airspace. The FAA has so far only established rules for commercial use and not for personal use, but they do restrict them near airports and other locations. As one poster said...a very very gray area.
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