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For conservatives,  American exceptionalism is more like American narcissism.  They think we're entitled to respect and admiration without having to earn it.

For conservatives,  American exceptionalism is more like American narcissism.  They think we&#039;re entitled to respect and admiration without having to earn it.

m1a1mg

Our fore fathers earned respect. We've just been giving it back for decades.

Our fore fathers earned respect. We&#039;ve just been giving it back for decades.

Danny Glidewell

American conservatives believe that the concepts that this country was founded on, as encapsulated in the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, Gettysburg Address and other writings, make America an exceptional nation when compared to all others.  While we have faults and have made mistakes, no other nation on Earth has a comparable record regarding freedom or allowing the pursuit of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" by all citizens.  We believe that these principles allowed America to grow faster and go farther and that America has been blessed by God in so many ways.  What is there not to admire about a country where you can come in penniless and through hard work make a fortune?  Or where the son of immigrants can become a senator or even President?  No other place on earth provides such opportunities.  That is what American Exceptionalism is all about.

American conservatives believe that the concepts that this country was founded on, as encapsulated in the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, Gettysburg Address and other writings, make America an exceptional nation when compared to all others.  While we have faults and have made mistakes, no other nation on Earth has a comparable record regarding freedom or allowing the pursuit of &quot;life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness&quot; by all citizens.  We believe that these principles allowed America to grow faster and go farther and that America has been blessed by God in so many ways.  What is there not to admire about a country where you can come in penniless and through hard work make a fortune?  Or where the son of immigrants can become a senator or even President?  No other place on earth provides such opportunities.  That is what American Exceptionalism is all about.

[quote="m1a1mg, post: 823567"]Our fore fathers earned respect. We've just been giving it back for decades.[/QUOTE]

Today's GOP must be the forefathers' bastard children.



Edit note: Originally I replied to my own post by mistake.  This is a correction.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="m1a1mg">Our fore fathers earned respect. We&#039;ve just been giving it back for decades.</blockquote> 
Today&#039;s GOP must be the forefathers&#039; bastard children. 
 
 
 
Edit note: Originally I replied to my own post by mistake. This is a correction.

Andy A

It is too bad that some who post here have no conception what so ever about past American history or what the vast majority of Americans believe regarding their country.  America is exceptional and, by far, the greatest place on this planet to live.  And, thankfully, due to the sacrifice of millions of our young American men and women, those, such as the poster above, are given the right, previlege and without fear of retribution, to post anything they want regarding our great nation, its values and the principles on which it stands and was founded.  As for me, it also allows one to say without equovocation, that such diatribe is without merit or usefulness, but indicative of misunderstanding and lack of knowledge some posess.  Some might go so far as to say, sheer stupidity.

[quote="Andy A, post: 823579"]It is too bad that some who post here have no conception what so ever about past American history or what the vast majority of Americans believe regarding their country.  America is exceptional and, by far, the greatest place on this planet to live.  And, thankfully, due to the sacrifice of millions of our young American men and women, those, such as the poster above, are given the right, previlege and without fear of retribution, to post anything they want regarding our great nation, its values and the principles on which it stands and was founded.  As for me, it also allows one to say without equovocation, that such diatribe is without merit or usefulness, but indicative of misunderstanding and lack of knowledge some posess.  Some might go so far as to say, sheer stupidity.[/QUOTE]

I love the principles on which our country stands, I just loathe yours.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Andy A">It is too bad that some who post here have no conception what so ever about past American history or what the vast majority of Americans believe regarding their country. America is exceptional and, by far, the greatest place on this planet to live. And, thankfully, due to the sacrifice of millions of our young American men and women, those, such as the poster above, are given the right, previlege and without fear of retribution, to post anything they want regarding our great nation, its values and the principles on which it stands and was founded. As for me, it also allows one to say without equovocation, that such diatribe is without merit or usefulness, but indicative of misunderstanding and lack of knowledge some posess. Some might go so far as to say, sheer stupidity.</blockquote> 
I love the principles on which our country stands, I just loathe yours.

[quote="Leader of the Banned, post: 823582"]I love the principles on which our country stands, I just loathe yours.[/QUOTE]

And that is your right, stupid as it may be.  I know nothing of your education, backround or principles nor do you know anything about mine.  We are both entitled to our opinions.  Have a great day!  BTW, you are now in the same category as poppy.  This is the last post of yours to which I will directly respond.  I feel sure this will please both of us.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Leader of the Banned">I love the principles on which our country stands, I just loathe yours.</blockquote> 
And that is your right, stupid as it may be. I know nothing of your education, backround or principles nor do you know anything about mine. We are both entitled to our opinions. Have a great day! BTW, you are now in the same category as poppy. This is the last post of yours to which I will directly respond. I feel sure this will please both of us.

[quote="Andy A, post: 823584"]And that is your right, stupid as it may be.  I know nothing of your education, backround or principles nor do you know anything about mine.  We are both entitled to our opinions.  Have a great day!  BTW, you are now in the same category as poppy.  This is the last post of yours to which I will directly respond.  I feel sure this will please both of us.[/QUOTE]

You are the one who took some general remarks I made about conservatives, and turned it into something personal.   If you read the article linked from the original post you might be able to put what I said into context.  I doubt that you even read it.   It was entitled "GOP Continues to Embarrass America" in case you're interested.  I guess you would rather use the opportunity to get up on the high horse rather than understand the situation.  The article was about Republicans who talk a good game, don't really represent American values, but think they do.  If you'd like to catch a glimpse of someone like that, look in the mirror.  Heil poppy!

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Andy A">And that is your right, stupid as it may be. I know nothing of your education, backround or principles nor do you know anything about mine. We are both entitled to our opinions. Have a great day! BTW, you are now in the same category as poppy. This is the last post of yours to which I will directly respond. I feel sure this will please both of us.</blockquote> 
You are the one who took some general remarks I made about conservatives, and turned it into something personal. If you read the article linked from the original post you might be able to put what I said into context. I doubt that you even read it. It was entitled &quot;GOP Continues to Embarrass America&quot; in case you&#039;re interested. I guess you would rather use the opportunity to get up on the high horse rather than understand the situation. The article was about Republicans who talk a good game, don&#039;t really represent American values, but think they do. If you&#039;d like to catch a glimpse of someone like that, look in the mirror. Heil poppy!

poppy

Banned

[quote="Andy A, post: 823584"]  And that is your right, stupid as it may be.  I know nothing of your education, backround or principles nor do you know anything about mine.  We are both entitled to our opinions.  Have a great day!  BTW, you are now in the same category as poppy.  This is the last post of yours to which I will directly respond.  I feel sure this will please both of us.[/QUOTE]

If you insist on dragging me into your disagreements at least have the courtesy of informing everyone that I hold first position on your fecal roster. It took a long time to reach this pinnacle in my posting career. It was achieved through years of reading and responding to your long boorish posts full of so much bullsh*t it is hard to believe one man alone could create a steaming pile that huge. I had to endure your posts telling others they are stupid and their opinions have no merit. I also had to repeatedly hear your claims of a superior education, life experience, refuted chain e-mails and, my favorite, your in depth analysis of how some people are just plain better than others. How do you define last time? You have claimed many times this is your last response, but we all know your inflated ego will not let you stay away.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Andy A">And that is your right, stupid as it may be. I know nothing of your education, backround or principles nor do you know anything about mine. We are both entitled to our opinions. Have a great day! BTW, you are now in the same category as poppy. This is the last post of yours to which I will directly respond. I feel sure this will please both of us.</blockquote> 
If you insist on dragging me into your disagreements at least have the courtesy of informing everyone that I hold first position on your fecal roster. It took a long time to reach this pinnacle in my posting career. It was achieved through years of reading and responding to your long boorish posts full of so much bullsh*t it is hard to believe one man alone could create a steaming pile that huge. I had to endure your posts telling others they are stupid and their opinions have no merit. I also had to repeatedly hear your claims of a superior education, life experience, refuted chain e-mails and, my favorite, your in depth analysis of how some people are just plain better than others. How do you define last time? You have claimed many times this is your last response, but we all know your inflated ego will not let you stay away.

spaglioni

Beach Lover

Uh, folks, the article is posted on the Huff Post.  Probably not going to get a good shake for Republicans.  I'm sure we can find similar examples of imbecilic behavior from the Democratic side of the house.  Can anyone remember Hank Johnson (D-GA) suggesting Guam could tip over?  Here's the link:  [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs23CjIWMgA[/url].

So let's not cast stones inside of glass houses.

Uh, folks, the article is posted on the Huff Post. Probably not going to get a good shake for Republicans. I&#039;m sure we can find similar examples of imbecilic behavior from the Democratic side of the house. Can anyone remember Hank Johnson (D-GA) suggesting Guam could tip over? Here&#039;s the link: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs23CjIWMgA" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs23CjIWMgA</a>. 
 
So let&#039;s not cast stones inside of glass houses.

You two both suck, and yes, I read the bias article in the Huffington Post.  Anyone who doesn't realize it is a left wing publication has no common sense.  This is the last post I will make in response to you two far left Liberals, who only have a narrowly focused view of America.  BTW, the response was not directed to you, poopy, but to Leader of the Banned whom I had never previously said I would not respond.  The two of you are like peas in a pod but not worth heating up.

You two both suck, and yes, I read the bias article in the Huffington Post.  Anyone who doesn&#039;t realize it is a left wing publication has no common sense.  This is the last post I will make in response to you two far left Liberals, who only have a narrowly focused view of America.  BTW, the response was not directed to you, poopy, but to Leader of the Banned whom I had never previously said I would not respond.  The two of you are like peas in a pod but not worth heating up.

[quote="Andy A, post: 823595"]You two both suck, and yes, I read the bias article in the Huffington Post.  Anyone who doesn't realize it is a left wing publication has no common sense.  This is the last post I will make in response to you two far left Liberals, who only have a narrowly focused view of America.  BTW, the response was not directed to you, poopy, but to Leader of the Banned whom I had never previously said I would not respond.  The two of you are like peas in a pod but not worth heating up.[/QUOTE]    Now you're using personal attacks and being just downright childish and everyone knows facts have a liberal bias.  Put on your red t-shirt and give us your expanded rose colored view of the America you claim we can't see. This should be entertaining. Be sure to include your  fascinating narrative of how better you are.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Andy A">You two both suck, and yes, I read the bias article in the Huffington Post. Anyone who doesn&#039;t realize it is a left wing publication has no common sense. This is the last post I will make in response to you two far left Liberals, who only have a narrowly focused view of America. BTW, the response was not directed to you, poopy, but to Leader of the Banned whom I had never previously said I would not respond. The two of you are like peas in a pod but not worth heating up.</blockquote> Now you&#039;re using personal attacks and being just downright childish and everyone knows facts have a liberal bias. Put on your red t-shirt and give us your expanded rose colored view of the America you claim we can&#039;t see. This should be entertaining. Be sure to include your fascinating narrative of how better you are.

[quote="30ABeachBum, post: 823594"]Uh, folks, the article is posted on the Huff Post.  Probably not going to get a good shake for Republicans.  I'm sure we can find similar examples of imbecilic behavior from the Democratic side of the house.  Can anyone remember Hank Johnson (D-GA) suggesting Guam could tip over?  Here's the link:  [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs23CjIWMgA"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs23CjIWMgA[/URL].  So let's not cast stones inside of glass houses.[/QUOTE]

Andy's idea of accurate reliable reporting is a rightwing chain e-mail.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="30ABeachBum">Uh, folks, the article is posted on the Huff Post. Probably not going to get a good shake for Republicans. I&#039;m sure we can find similar examples of imbecilic behavior from the Democratic side of the house. Can anyone remember Hank Johnson (D-GA) suggesting Guam could tip over? Here&#039;s the link: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs23CjIWMgA" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs23CjIWMgA</a>. So let&#039;s not cast stones inside of glass houses.</blockquote> 
Andy&#039;s idea of accurate reliable reporting is a rightwing chain e-mail.

[quote="Andy A, post: 823595"]You two both suck, and yes, I read the bias article in the Huffington Post.  Anyone who doesn't realize it is a left wing publication has no common sense.  This is the last post I will make in response to you two far left Liberals, who only have a narrowly focused view of America.  BTW, the response was not directed to you, poopy, but to Leader of the Banned whom I had never previously said I would not respond.  The two of you are like peas in a pod but not worth heating up.[/QUOTE]

Really, your're going after the messenger of the information?  Can you confirm that none of these dumbass GOPers said or did these things?   Are you so hung up on the political slant of the source and in such denial that you can't think straight?  I think it's clear to all that the answer is yes.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Andy A">You two both suck, and yes, I read the bias article in the Huffington Post. Anyone who doesn&#039;t realize it is a left wing publication has no common sense. This is the last post I will make in response to you two far left Liberals, who only have a narrowly focused view of America. BTW, the response was not directed to you, poopy, but to Leader of the Banned whom I had never previously said I would not respond. The two of you are like peas in a pod but not worth heating up.</blockquote> 
Really, your&#039;re going after the messenger of the information? Can you confirm that none of these dumbass GOPers said or did these things? Are you so hung up on the political slant of the source and in such denial that you can&#039;t think straight? I think it&#039;s clear to all that the answer is yes.

carson

[quote="Leader of the Banned, post: 823598"]

From Leader's comment 


As LOTB said I am quickly becoming Libertarian and it is because of piss poor representation from both parties. The Republicans interfere in a very delicate negotiation with Iran..very pompous move. Then you have a President who apparently doesn't have a lot of respect for the constitution or Congressional procedure. Who in the hell represents us?

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Leader of the Banned">From Leader&#039;s comment 
 
 
As LOTB said I am quickly becoming Libertarian and it is because of piss poor representation from both parties. The Republicans interfere in a very delicate negotiation with Iran..very pompous move. Then you have a President who apparently doesn&#039;t have a lot of respect for the constitution or Congressional procedure. Who in the hell represents us?</blockquote>

[quote="Leader of the Banned, post: 823598"]  Really, your're going after the messenger of the information?  Can you confirm that none of these dumbass GOPers said or did these things?   Are you so hung up on the political slant of the source and in such denial that you can't think straight?  I think it's clear to all that the answer is yes.[/QUOTE]

It's the Foxification of the GOP mind. The proof is evident in Bill O'Reilly. He is a proven liar yet his ratings have gone up because he plays the persecuted Conservative and the knuckle draggers buy it.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Leader of the Banned">Really, your&#039;re going after the messenger of the information? Can you confirm that none of these dumbass GOPers said or did these things? Are you so hung up on the political slant of the source and in such denial that you can&#039;t think straight? I think it&#039;s clear to all that the answer is yes.</blockquote> 
It&#039;s the Foxification of the GOP mind. The proof is evident in Bill O&#039;Reilly. He is a proven liar yet his ratings have gone up because he plays the persecuted Conservative and the knuckle draggers buy it.

[quote="carson, post: 823601"][quote="Leader of the Banned, post: 823598"]

From Leader's comment 


As LOTB said I am quickly becoming Libertarian and it is because of piss poor representation from both parties. The Republicans interfere in a very delicate negotiation with Iran..very pompous move. Then you have a President who apparently doesn't have a lot of respect for the constitution or Congressional procedure. Who in the hell represents us?[/QUOTE]

I got the impression you've been a libertarian for years.  As for Obama, I give him a pass, because look what he has to deal with.  This is unprecedented B.S. from the right   He's not perfect, but I'll take him over anything the GOP has served up for the last 15 years.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="carson"><blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Leader of the Banned">From Leader&#039;s comment 
 
 
As LOTB said I am quickly becoming Libertarian and it is because of piss poor representation from both parties. The Republicans interfere in a very delicate negotiation with Iran..very pompous move. Then you have a President who apparently doesn&#039;t have a lot of respect for the constitution or Congressional procedure. Who in the hell represents us?</blockquote> 
I got the impression you&#039;ve been a libertarian for years. As for Obama, I give him a pass, because look what he has to deal with. This is unprecedented B.S. from the right He&#039;s not perfect, but I&#039;ll take him over anything the GOP has served up for the last 15 years.</blockquote>

[quote="carson, post: 823601"]As LOTB said I am quickly becoming Libertarian and it is because of piss poor representation from both parties. The Republicans interfere in a very delicate negotiation with Iran..very pompous move. [/QUOTE]

I agree with damn near all of that, and will not get drawn into this stupidity, but you do realize the Dems did the same thing when Reagan was President, right?

EDIT: To fix a format issue.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="carson">As LOTB said I am quickly becoming Libertarian and it is because of piss poor representation from both parties. The Republicans interfere in a very delicate negotiation with Iran..very pompous move.</blockquote> 
I agree with damn near all of that, and will not get drawn into this stupidity, but you do realize the Dems did the same thing when Reagan was President, right? 
 
EDIT: To fix a format issue.

I really don't want to get into this mess either, but history shows that liberals even did the same thing to another liberal President (LBJ) in Vietnam.  
There are plenty of examples of stupidity on both ends of the political spectrum.  It does no one any good to play gotcha or to pretend that only their opposition does dumb things.

I really don&#039;t want to get into this mess either, but history shows that liberals even did the same thing to another liberal President (LBJ) in Vietnam. 
There are plenty of examples of stupidity on both ends of the political spectrum. It does no one any good to play gotcha or to pretend that only their opposition does dumb things.

Do we need any more proof that 80% of our elected officials are idiots?
[URL]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-zombeck/gop-continues-to-embarras_b_6852362.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592[/URL]

Do we need any more proof that 80% of our elected officials are idiots? 
<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-zombeck/gop-continues-to-embarras_b_6852362.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richa...rras_b_6852362.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592</a>

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