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carson

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[quote="steel1man, post: 817686"]@PoliticalLaughs: Obama has come up with a plan to create jobs for two and a half million Americans. The catch is that we all have to move to China.[/QUOTE]

Deficit since Obama took office up 63% to 17.3 trillion....oh but that was inherited right? To give credit where it is due, wind and other green energy was up 206% and oil imports were down  51%. Exports were up but only 34%. Food stamps and entitlements up 148% and long term unemployment is through the roof. Corporate profits up 178% and the stock market doubled in size. Most of the gains were rebound, but much of the deficit was too. All in all he gets a C based on his starting point.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="steel1man">@PoliticalLaughs: Obama has come up with a plan to create jobs for two and a half million Americans. The catch is that we all have to move to China.</blockquote> 
Deficit since Obama took office up 63% to 17.3 trillion....oh but that was inherited right? To give credit where it is due, wind and other green energy was up 206% and oil imports were down 51%. Exports were up but only 34%. Food stamps and entitlements up 148% and long term unemployment is through the roof. Corporate profits up 178% and the stock market doubled in size. Most of the gains were rebound, but much of the deficit was too. All in all he gets a C based on his starting point.

meggiemom

Beach Lover

[quote="carson, post: 817690"]Deficit since Obama took office up 63% to 17.3 trillion....oh but that was inherited right? To give credit where it is due, wind and other green energy was up 206% and oil imports were down  51%. Exports were up but only 34%. Food stamps and entitlements up 148% and long term unemployment is through the roof. Corporate profits up 178% and the stock market doubled in size. Most of the gains were rebound, but much of the deficit was too. All in all he gets a C based on his starting point.[/QUOTE]

It's important to note that the national debt isn't the "deficit".

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="carson">Deficit since Obama took office up 63% to 17.3 trillion....oh but that was inherited right? To give credit where it is due, wind and other green energy was up 206% and oil imports were down 51%. Exports were up but only 34%. Food stamps and entitlements up 148% and long term unemployment is through the roof. Corporate profits up 178% and the stock market doubled in size. Most of the gains were rebound, but much of the deficit was too. All in all he gets a C based on his starting point.</blockquote> 
It&#039;s important to note that the national debt isn&#039;t the &quot;deficit&quot;.

[quote="meggiemom, post: 817770"]

It's important to note that the national debt isn't the "deficit".[/QUOTE]

Too early to use proper terminology I suppose.:)

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="meggiemom">It&#039;s important to note that the national debt isn&#039;t the &quot;deficit&quot;.</blockquote> 
Too early to use proper terminology I suppose.🙂

Lake View Too

SoWal Insider

From my understanding, he cut the deficit in half (not the national debt). The also ended the Iraq war, saving thousands of lives, and huge sums of money. He is also winding down the Afghan war, again saving lives and money. The unemployment rate is under 6%. The United States in now the leading producer of oil in the world. Wall Street is booming, and there are twice as many billionaires in the US as there were in 2008. About seven million more Americans now have health insurance. 

I know I will be parsed to death. These are the bits of info I have gleaned from my feeble attempt to pay attention to all media. Let the nit-picking begin...

From my understanding, he cut the deficit in half (not the national debt). The also ended the Iraq war, saving thousands of lives, and huge sums of money. He is also winding down the Afghan war, again saving lives and money. The unemployment rate is under 6%. The United States in now the leading producer of oil in the world. Wall Street is booming, and there are twice as many billionaires in the US as there were in 2008. About seven million more Americans now have health insurance. 
 
I know I will be parsed to death. These are the bits of info I have gleaned from my feeble attempt to pay attention to all media. Let the nit-picking begin...

[quote="Lake View Too, post: 817787"]From my understanding, he cut the deficit in half (not the national debt). The also ended the Iraq war, saving thousands of lives, and huge sums of money. He is also winding down the Afghan war, again saving lives and money. The unemployment rate is under 6%. The United States in now the leading producer of oil in the world. Wall Street is booming, and there are twice as many billionaires in the US as there were in 2008. About seven million more Americans now have health insurance.

I know I will be parsed to death. These are the bits of info I have gleaned from my feeble attempt to pay attention to all media. Let the nit-picking begin...[/QUOTE]

Nit pick..nit pick..nit pick. We shouldnt be able to debate a setting President for at least five years from the time he leaves office. Thats when you see the legacy that they have left. Clinton as an example left office under less than desirable conditions but 5 to 10 years later the guy is a Top 5!

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Lake View Too">From my understanding, he cut the deficit in half (not the national debt). The also ended the Iraq war, saving thousands of lives, and huge sums of money. He is also winding down the Afghan war, again saving lives and money. The unemployment rate is under 6%. The United States in now the leading producer of oil in the world. Wall Street is booming, and there are twice as many billionaires in the US as there were in 2008. About seven million more Americans now have health insurance. 
 
I know I will be parsed to death. These are the bits of info I have gleaned from my feeble attempt to pay attention to all media. Let the nit-picking begin...</blockquote> 
Nit pick..nit pick..nit pick. We shouldnt be able to debate a setting President for at least five years from the time he leaves office. Thats when you see the legacy that they have left. Clinton as an example left office under less than desirable conditions but 5 to 10 years later the guy is a Top 5!

steel1man

Winner here?? jimmy Carter.....he's no longer the worst US President...

Winner here?? jimmy Carter.....he&#039;s no longer the worst US President...

[quote="steel1man, post: 817796"]Winner here?? jimmy Carter.....he's no longer the worst US President...[/QUOTE]

True that. Bush deserves his lumps, so does Obama. When these guys play King, regardless of party lines, people dont like it. Bush, Obama, et al. Common sense should be a party at some point, not an acquiescence to party lines. Poppy and Banned have real world, real honest beliefs that I can support, but others that I cant. The magic is moderation, most parties call it wavering when in fact it is managing the wishes of the electorate. Can wevote by Tevo and **** can the Congress?

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="steel1man">Winner here?? jimmy Carter.....he&#039;s no longer the worst US President...</blockquote> 
True that. Bush deserves his lumps, so does Obama. When these guys play King, regardless of party lines, people dont like it. Bush, Obama, et al. Common sense should be a party at some point, not an acquiescence to party lines. Poppy and Banned have real world, real honest beliefs that I can support, but others that I cant. The magic is moderation, most parties call it wavering when in fact it is managing the wishes of the electorate. Can wevote by Tevo and **** can the Congress?

[quote="carson, post: 817797"]

True that. Bush deserves his lumps, so does Obama. When these guys play King, regardless of party lines, people dont like it. Bush, Obama, et al. Common sense should be a party at some point, not an acquiescence to party lines. Poppy and Banned have real world, real honest beliefs that I can support, but others that I cant. The magic is moderation, most parties call it wavering when in fact it is managing the wishes of the electorate. Can wevote by Tevo and **** can the Congress?[/QUOTE]

Actually I say that jokingly......but think about it. We are cutting budgets...by the people for the people...can Congress..vote Tevo...real people voting, not PACs or other interests...real representation!

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="carson">True that. Bush deserves his lumps, so does Obama. When these guys play King, regardless of party lines, people dont like it. Bush, Obama, et al. Common sense should be a party at some point, not an acquiescence to party lines. Poppy and Banned have real world, real honest beliefs that I can support, but others that I cant. The magic is moderation, most parties call it wavering when in fact it is managing the wishes of the electorate. Can wevote by Tevo and **** can the Congress?</blockquote> 
Actually I say that jokingly......but think about it. We are cutting budgets...by the people for the people...can Congress..vote Tevo...real people voting, not PACs or other interests...real representation!

We are in a new world where corporations are people, and, in fact the only "people" that count. Don't be such a dreamer...

We are in a new world where corporations are people, and, in fact the only &quot;people&quot; that count. Don&#039;t be such a dreamer...

[URL]http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-obamas-claims-illegal-immigration-081111776.html[/URL]  So the actual story is, YES, other Presidents have used Executive Order to CHANGE immigration laws that had recently passed Congress because they felt that they need additional language or modification. In this case it was absolutely the messenger and not the message. I have never heard that Republicans didn't agree in principle of granting permanent citizenship to the people here who have family here, only on the criteria of citizenship being granted and future enforcement. Keep in mind, the states that carry the cross in this are the border states, Texas and California in particular, so Perry might be an ass but the Lone Star state has been the muy rico Tio Pepe to illegals for 50+ years.

<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-obamas-claims-illegal-immigration-081111776.html" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-obamas-claims-illegal-immigration-081111776.html</a> So the actual story is, YES, other Presidents have used Executive Order to CHANGE immigration laws that had recently passed Congress because they felt that they need additional language or modification. In this case it was absolutely the messenger and not the message. I have never heard that Republicans didn&#039;t agree in principle of granting permanent citizenship to the people here who have family here, only on the criteria of citizenship being granted and future enforcement. Keep in mind, the states that carry the cross in this are the border states, Texas and California in particular, so Perry might be an ass but the Lone Star state has been the muy rico Tio Pepe to illegals for 50+ years.

m1a1mg

Moderate R's want enforcement first BEFORE amnesty. Otherwise you get a flood of illegal immigrants, as has happened in the past.

Moderate R&#039;s want enforcement first BEFORE amnesty. Otherwise you get a flood of illegal immigrants, as has happened in the past.

RobertLeonard

Beach Crab

Why open the floodgates if you are unsure if you can close them? You can offer amnesty to get people out in the open (they are here anyway, might as well make them pay taxes) but you cannot accept the fact that they cannot protect the borders first. That is simply unacceptable and they know it.

[quote="carson, post: 817790"]Nit pick..nit pick..nit pick. We shouldnt be able to debate a setting President for at least five years from the time he leaves office. Thats when you see the legacy that they have left. Clinton as an example left office under less than desirable conditions but 5 to 10 years later the guy is a Top 5![/QUOTE]

No president is entirely responsible for economic problems and recovery as well as a lot of other issues  but all presidents get blamed for failures and praise for successes. Clinton was a good president. His failures involved his zipper but obviously Hillary was OK with having an open marriage and that was a personal problem. It had nothing to do with policy. Presidential powers are limited (or at least they should be).

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="carson">Nit pick..nit pick..nit pick. We shouldnt be able to debate a setting President for at least five years from the time he leaves office. Thats when you see the legacy that they have left. Clinton as an example left office under less than desirable conditions but 5 to 10 years later the guy is a Top 5!</blockquote> 
No president is entirely responsible for economic problems and recovery as well as a lot of other issues but all presidents get blamed for failures and praise for successes. Clinton was a good president. His failures involved his zipper but obviously Hillary was OK with having an open marriage and that was a personal problem. It had nothing to do with policy. Presidential powers are limited (or at least they should be).

ricky bobby

Banned

Cash for Clunkers comes to mind. Successful? I don't think so.

Cash for Clunkers comes to mind. Successful? I don&#039;t think so.

Seaducer

some things never change, Good for him  [img]http://mypullzone.orangepopmediall.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/clinton.jpg[/img]

some things never change, Good for him <img src="http://mypullzone.orangepopmediall.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/clinton.jpg" alt="" />

30a Saluki

[quote="carson, post: 817808"][URL]http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-obamas-claims-illegal-immigration-081111776.html[/URL]  So the actual story is, YES, other Presidents have used Executive Order to CHANGE immigration laws that had recently passed Congress because they felt that they need additional language or modification. In this case it was absolutely the messenger and not the message. I have never heard that Republicans didn't agree in principle of granting permanent citizenship to the people here who have family here, only on the criteria of citizenship being granted and future enforcement. Keep in mind, the states that carry the cross in this are the border states, Texas and California in particular, so Perry might be an ass but the Lone Star state has been the muy rico Tio Pepe to illegals for 50+ years.[/QUOTE]

Key words "passed Congress". Obama is the first president who considers himself emperor, and at the rate he is going, he is the emperor. Great editorial about Obama in WSJ, Horrible Bosses 3, describes the scapegoating in this administration that cannot keep competent help, because of the micro-management from the top. Obama is easily the worst president ever. Jimmy Carter will be buried with a big grin on his face. It escapes me how anyone can continue to defend this national (and international) embarrassment.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="carson"><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-obamas-claims-illegal-immigration-081111776.html" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-obamas-claims-illegal-immigration-081111776.html</a> So the actual story is, YES, other Presidents have used Executive Order to CHANGE immigration laws that had recently passed Congress because they felt that they need additional language or modification. In this case it was absolutely the messenger and not the message. I have never heard that Republicans didn&#039;t agree in principle of granting permanent citizenship to the people here who have family here, only on the criteria of citizenship being granted and future enforcement. Keep in mind, the states that carry the cross in this are the border states, Texas and California in particular, so Perry might be an ass but the Lone Star state has been the muy rico Tio Pepe to illegals for 50+ years.</blockquote> 
Key words &quot;passed Congress&quot;. Obama is the first president who considers himself emperor, and at the rate he is going, he is the emperor. Great editorial about Obama in WSJ, Horrible Bosses 3, describes the scapegoating in this administration that cannot keep competent help, because of the micro-management from the top. Obama is easily the worst president ever. Jimmy Carter will be buried with a big grin on his face. It escapes me how anyone can continue to defend this national (and international) embarrassment.

poppy

Have you ever heard of G.W. Bush or Richard Nixon?

bentley williams

Carter and Clinton are true statesmen. They continue to do great things. Being President was just part of who they are. I bet Obama follows suit. What is it about dems that allows them to believe in people and want to help them? Have any reps done anything after office?

Andy A

I'd comment but the statement is too ludicrous to even bother.  GW and Clinton come to mind in their joint aid to Haiti.

I&#039;d comment but the statement is too ludicrous to even bother.  GW and Clinton come to mind in their joint aid to Haiti.

@PoliticalLaughs: Obama has come up with a plan to create jobs for two and a half million Americans. The catch is that we all have to move to China.

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