Behind the Tom Thumb in Seagrove, a new fire has just broken out!!! Two Fire trucks are on the scene and one more just arrived, and smoke is everywhere!!! Three smaller fires broke out around the larger one.
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279SoWal ExpertAuthor
In that case, I hope they keep a supply at the WaterColor Fire Station, and I hope that everyone will stop by there and buy one, on their next trip to Publix at WaterColor.
SoWal ExpertAuthor
Hi and Dri, can you confirm the address of that house as 118 Somerset Bridge Rd?
Beach Lover
Firefighters entering another Bungalow house with fire hose at 8:45AM.
Note: residents described their pine straw around their houses as an "accelerant" and planned to replace it with stone or fire retardant bark. The pine straw was burned around many of the non damaged buildings.
Note: residents described their pine straw around their houses as an "accelerant" and planned to replace it with stone or fire retardant bark. The pine straw was burned around many of the non damaged buildings.
Beach Fanatic
Landscaping is a serious problem as a fire hazard, and so many are not considering it as an accelerant.
Beach Fanatic
I've been here long enough to remember 1998, and was always amazed that Watercolor used so much pine straw everywhere when they built it considering how Watercolor is otherwise pretty good about landscaping for the local climate.
And that's just one neighborhood I can think of because we've walked through there a lot of times. How many smaller neighborhoods do similar?
And that's just one neighborhood I can think of because we've walked through there a lot of times. How many smaller neighborhoods do similar?
Beach Crab
Hey Guys - I am a new owner in SoWal - looked at the Bungalows even! - but just was introduced to the site yesterday by a friend and wanted to thank you for this forum and your updates! I also want to extend my concern to all those who own property in this area - our thoughts are with you!
Christini Zambini
I've been here long enough to remember 1998, and was always amazed that Watercolor used so much pine straw everywhere when they built it considering how Watercolor is otherwise pretty good about landscaping for the local climate.
And that's just one neighborhood I can think of because we've walked through there a lot of times. How many smaller neighborhoods do similar?
The reason for the pine straw is that the county requires "natural landscaping" for many developments. Lawns are not considering natural landscaping and bare sand is both unattractive and not considered landscaping. There really is no alternative. Pine straw is considered natural landscaping.
SoWal Expert
Pinestraw is pretty common around here. Most folks use it instead of mulch. I'd worry more about all of the dead branches, trees, and undergrowth but it's something to think about.
Beach Fanatic
The reason for the pine straw is that the county requires "natural landscaping" for many developments. Lawns are not considering natural landscaping and bare sand is both unattractive and not considered landscaping. There really is no alternative. Pine straw is considered natural landscaping.
Sounds like some county ordinances need to be changed! I can remember going to someone's house when I was a kid where they swept the yard with a broom. No grass or weeds at all.
Beach Fanatic
In the face of these events, this would be a VERY good time to pursue a change.
Hint: the Black Creek fire, the Red Bay fire, and the Seagrove fire are all in Commissioner Scott Brannon's district (District 1).
Hint: the Black Creek fire, the Red Bay fire, and the Seagrove fire are all in Commissioner Scott Brannon's district (District 1).
SoWal Expert
My "natural landscape" is leaves from all the trees overhead. A packed dirt yard seems a bit extreme/unsightly.
SoWal Expert
In the face of these events, this would be a VERY good time to pursue a change.
Hint: the Black Creek fire, the Red Bay fire, and the Seagrove fire are all in Commissioner Scott Brannon's district (District 1).
Are you suggesting he make a change that would benefit US instead of all the developers who paid to get him elected?

Beach Lover
A witness that was on the scene said the smoke and fire was so intense that it took the fire fighters 20 minutes just to fight their way from the street to the units on fire.
The witness also said the flames were as high as the buildings-you can see charring on the rafter tails and soffits on most of the Units 127 to 132. The exterior of the buildings except for the wood trim was fire-resistant material and undoubtedly mitigated the damage.
The Bungalow units #114 and 115 were completely destroyed.
Units #113, 116, 117, 118 did not appear damaged except for melted satellite dishes and AC units. However, the wooden walkway to these houses was completely destroyed in some sections. House units to the west were OK except some closest to the fire had the ground covering charred to the dirt (all the pine straw burned) and some A/C damage.
Unit 126 had its walkway entrance partially burned but otherwise seemed intact.
Most of the Units 127 to 132 had varying degrees of exterior scorching to wood exterior (shutters, trim and soffits on east side toward the forest) and some interior smoke and water damage.
SJ and I were there taking extensive pics which will be posted later.
The plat of the Bungalows below shows the direction of the fire and the 2 destroyed units circled.
The witness also said the flames were as high as the buildings-you can see charring on the rafter tails and soffits on most of the Units 127 to 132. The exterior of the buildings except for the wood trim was fire-resistant material and undoubtedly mitigated the damage.
The Bungalow units #114 and 115 were completely destroyed.
Units #113, 116, 117, 118 did not appear damaged except for melted satellite dishes and AC units. However, the wooden walkway to these houses was completely destroyed in some sections. House units to the west were OK except some closest to the fire had the ground covering charred to the dirt (all the pine straw burned) and some A/C damage.
Unit 126 had its walkway entrance partially burned but otherwise seemed intact.
Most of the Units 127 to 132 had varying degrees of exterior scorching to wood exterior (shutters, trim and soffits on east side toward the forest) and some interior smoke and water damage.
SJ and I were there taking extensive pics which will be posted later.
The plat of the Bungalows below shows the direction of the fire and the 2 destroyed units circled.
Beach Fanatic
Are you suggesting he make a change that would benefit US instead of all the developers who paid to get him elected?
Wouldn't hurt to ask. And it wouldn't hurt to mention it to some of the other board members as well.
Beach Fanatic
Maybe someone needs to make hats and tee-shirts with SWFD
On a related note, did anyone see that they got a D- from the Walton County Tax Payers Association this past year for their budget? Additionally, with the property tax reform is going on in June in Tallahassee aren't their budgets subject to cut backs too? This is a serious issue and I do not want to hijack the thread. I am just pointing out that I am glad they had the budget they did to get the job done this time- and it's not over yet!!
Here is the website write-up from Tax Payers Assn (emphasis added by me)
South Walton Fire District
The South Walton Fire District finally agreed to lower their millage rate by 3/100 of a mill. This is their first decrease in millage rate since the taxing authority was created.
The SWFD board expressed the position that response times and levels of service are their main focus.
In reality they have increased the taxes on the people of South Walton by 178% while the population has only increased 14%
The budget for the SWFD increased 19.42% this year. The WCTA targets for growth was 6-8% for each taxing authorities. It should be noted that the SWFD added three full time positions for the next year.
The salaries and wages line item increased by 24.2%.
The total growth in expenses is 3 times the WCTA target growth for all taxing authorities
The 2006 millage rate is .80
Grade - D-
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Beach Fanatic
I just got back from a quick drive through. There's still some smoke from the woods east of the Bungalows, and there's a SWFD truck up in there monitoring it. The damage I saw looks just like Hi n Dry described.
Up at the north end of Robert Ellis St. (beside Cocoons) there is still one the caterpillar units on the street, probably also there for insurance against a flare-up.
Up at the north end of Robert Ellis St. (beside Cocoons) there is still one the caterpillar units on the street, probably also there for insurance against a flare-up.
Beach Fanatic
The SWFD board expressed the position that response times and levels of service are their main focus.
In reality they have increased the taxes on the people of South Walton by 178% while the population has only increased 14%
The budget for the SWFD increased 19.42% this year. The WCTA targets for growth was 6-8% for each taxing authorities. It should be noted that the SWFD added three full time positions for the next year.
Population growth is a pretty lousy way of judging growth on SoWal because of the large number of structures that are not primary residences.
As for salaries, firefighting across the region has become more professional and professionalized over the past five years. Skills and training required to get licensed have increased, and the number of volunteer firefighters has likely decreased there as in other areas. The new push is to have firefighters be paramedics, not just EMTs. So paying more for better trained employees seems to be a fair enough proposition.
SoWal ExpertAuthor
No pictures to post yet, but maybe tonight I will have some time to post them.
State Forestry crews are still cutting breaks north of the fire, separating the burned area from the non burned forest.
I did notice the motto on the door of a SW Fire Engine today. I didn't read past the first word, "prompt." I thought, yes, thankfully they are!
Coincidentally, there is a SW Fireman who lives in the immediate area of the fire. His boardwalk has burned edges, but his house looks like it is alright. He was not only fighting for his neighbors, but also for his own house.
After looking at the damage today, I think there are many lucky property owners, because that fire could have easily took out all of those homes. Having stucco downstairs, and mostly hardi-board upstairs on the exterior of these condos, really helped prevent the fire from taking down the houses. You will see the contrast of the mostly unharmed hardi-board on the second floor, compared to the charred wooden shutters.
State Forestry crews are still cutting breaks north of the fire, separating the burned area from the non burned forest.
I did notice the motto on the door of a SW Fire Engine today. I didn't read past the first word, "prompt." I thought, yes, thankfully they are!
Coincidentally, there is a SW Fireman who lives in the immediate area of the fire. His boardwalk has burned edges, but his house looks like it is alright. He was not only fighting for his neighbors, but also for his own house.
After looking at the damage today, I think there are many lucky property owners, because that fire could have easily took out all of those homes. Having stucco downstairs, and mostly hardi-board upstairs on the exterior of these condos, really helped prevent the fire from taking down the houses. You will see the contrast of the mostly unharmed hardi-board on the second floor, compared to the charred wooden shutters.
SoWal Expert
Has anyone heard anything about the cause of the fire?
SoWal ExpertAuthor
Has anyone heard anything about the cause of the fire?I've heard only speculation as to the cause. Supposedly it started in a yard of a home in the subdivision immediately north of the Bungalows at Seagrove Beach S/D. Hi and Dri posted a photo of the home where it is thought to have started, but no one has confirmed that at this time.
Beach Fanatic
One other thing. Did anyone notice that the new SWFD fire chief just started on April 30th I think.
How's this for a first couple of weeks!!!!!:shock:
I hope he doesn't want to reconsider
I hope he doesn't want to reconsider
Beach Comber
Too bad for the Chief!!!!! Im sure FIRE is his passion. He is doing an amazing job to help us though.I give him PROPS!!!!!!!:clap_1: (two thumbs up) lol
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:clap_1:beats on hood
CNN said that Governor Crist held a news conference and said that 54 out of the 67 counties in Florida have active fires burning right now. We're hoping that a band of rain from Subtropical Storm Andrea will give us some rain -- they say it's headed back towards Florida. Reminds me of the James Taylor song, "Fire and Rain." Just hope it doesn't turn into a hurricane -- then it'd be "Fire, Rain, and Hurricane."
Beach Lover
Dont mean to use thise SoWAL for info on another city, BUT.... HWY 98 Thomas Drive West has a MAJOR fire burning from the CVS Pharmacy and roads are closed. Check www. wjhg.com
THis is getting bad people.
THis is getting bad people.
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