Fox News makes me laugh

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Riiiight. You just ***** about everything else. Got it. Clear as mud.

I'm not letting you off that easy. What have "we" done to take American Indians' lands, pride and way of life? I'd also note that the Indians were far more victim to European sickness that they did not have the immune system for than they were greed or profit. Also, "money" mentioned in the asinine banality, is nothing more than a medium of exchange. It is how societies place worth, or value on things. If someone is hungry met someone who needed clothes, they could exchange a chicken for a pair of pants, but it's not quite as efficient. I've yet to see a food shortage amongst developed nations that cut down trees and fish.

I'm not letting you off that easy. What have "we" done to take American Indians' lands, pride and way of life? I'd also note that the Indians were far more victim to European sickness that they did not have the immune system for than they were greed or profit. Also, "money" mentioned in the asinine banality, is nothing more than a medium of exchange. It is how societies place worth, or value on things. If someone is hungry met someone who needed clothes, they could exchange a chicken for a pair of pants, but it's not quite as efficient. I've yet to see a food shortage amongst developed nations that cut down trees and fish.

Well, there was that whole genocide thing where we decimated their population and used the military to forcibly move them onto the crappiest land we could find.......Yes, it was a couple generations ago, but it's hard to bounce back from when you have no resources and discrimination & poverty prevent you from getting a higher education.

The idea of the quotation (which I love BTW Kathy) is that monetary wealth or profit is worthless when you have destroyed your natural resources and are left w/ nothing but a stack of cash.

I don't understand your food shortage comment - people are starving everywhere.

Wow. some of the comments made here could be fox! ALL SPIN all the time! Those that cut down the trees, do not replant unless made to do so. Commercial fishing strips the sea, and without regard for "collateral damage". With your money you probably never see the hungry in this country, or the poverty of the Indian. It exists...no matter how you spin it!

Well, there was that whole genocide thing where we decimated their population and used the military to forcibly move them onto the crappiest land we could find.......Yes, it was a couple generations ago, but it's hard to bounce back from when you have no resources and discrimination & poverty prevent you from getting a higher education.

The idea of the quotation (which I love BTW Kathy) is that monetary wealth or profit is worthless when you have destroyed your natural resources and are left w/ nothing but a stack of cash.

I don't understand your food shortage comment - people are starving everywhere.

The ?whole genocide thing? was mostly before the Revolution, and all well beyond 100 years ago. I?m not taking personal responsibility for that. What resources are not available, and what discrimination and poverty is preventing American Indians from obtaining a higher education? Are they not allowed to obtain student loans? Are they not given preferential treatment among college applicants? It is past time white folks get over their feelings of guilt for their own success. It is time to stop the soft bigotry of low expectations. Force all people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and become productive members of society, rather than offering racist patronization, which you are doing now. ?It?s hard to bounce back? ? that is bullsh** racist low expectations.

I know and understand the idea of the quotation, I?m just saying that it?s nonsense. Money, as a medium of exchange, is worthless if there is nothing to exchange it for. The statement is a red herring.

People are not starving everywhere. The obesity problem is far, far worse among the poor of developed nations than starving or even hunger.

Beemn, I?d love to argue with you, but I?m amazed that your limited intellectual ability even allows you to log onto a computer and respond to my post. Before my dad retired, he had to have his secretary print out his email once people started sending it to him, and he?s a very bright fellow. Kudos.

You don't have to justify it, I was just pointing out that it is asinine and banal. You can put as much asinine banality in your signature as you like.

I did, thanks.

I did, thanks.

I wish you realized just how outstanding that "p.s." response is. Or at least realized why it is so outstanding. Good work.

I wish you realized just how outstanding that "p.s." response is. Or at least realized why it is so outstanding. Good work.

Psssssssssss!

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I know and understand the idea of the quotation, I’m just saying that it’s nonsense. - - Why do you care what someone's sig line is?? .. It's theirs!
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Beemn, I’d love to argue with you, but I’m amazed that your limited intellectual ability even allows you to log onto a computer and respond to my post. ..........

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Why do you care what someone's sig line is?? .. It's theirs!

Why don't you just put up something like this "That little boy is driving well and he's putting well. He's doing everything it takes to win. So, you know what you guys do when he gets in here? You pat him on the back and say congratulations and enjoy it and tell him not serve fried chicken next year. Got it? ...or collard greens or whatever the hell they serve."

You'd probably get some comments on that.

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It was a compliment.

I don't know what history book you've been reading, but we were killing off the Native American population and sending them to reservations LONG after the Revolutionary War.

Yes, there are currently college scholarships available. That is a recent development and a minor one in comparison to the years of poverty and its inherent social issues. If you had ever been to a reservation (going to go out on a real limb here) you wouldn't be yapping about "white folks guilt" and the "soft bigotry of low expectations." If you come from a poor family, go to school in a poor neighborhood, or your parents do not have a higher education, the deck is already statistically stacked against you, regardless of your color or heritage.

The obesity problem you speak of is not an indicator that people are getting enough food, but often that the foods they CAN afford are unhealthy and fattening.

I don't know what history book you've been reading, but we were killing off the Native American population and sending them to reservations LONG after the Revolutionary War.

It mostly ended in 1887 with the Daws Act and completely over in 1934, with the passage of The Indian Reorganization Act, which funded infrastructure, health care, and education on the reservations and encouraged self-government and land management by tribes. Neither I nor my parents were alive at either time period, so don?t tell me what ?we? have done.

Yes, there are currently college scholarships available. That is a recent development and a minor one in comparison to the years of poverty and its inherent social issues. If you had ever been to a reservation (going to go out on a real limb here) you wouldn't be yapping about "white folks guilt" and the "soft bigotry of low expectations." If you come from a poor family, go to school in a poor neighborhood, or your parents do not have a higher education, the deck is already statistically stacked against you, regardless of your color or heritage.

I?ve been to a reservation and volunteered. I?ve been to Appalachia and volunteered. I?ve been to ghettos and volunteered. Do I need to list anecdotal stories of CEOs and the like who have grown up poor? If the poor have the decks stacked against them, it?s because Progressives have done so by patronizing them, telling them it is not their fault, and offering crutch after crutch as incentives to stay poor.

The obesity problem you speak of is not an indicator that people are getting enough food, but often that the foods they CAN afford are unhealthy and fattening.

That?s just not true. They can make a choice to exercise and eat right, or they can make the easy choice like many have in various other aspects of their life.

So does 6th gen mean 6 generations of racism and bigotry?

6th Gen, this is true.

So does 6th gen mean 6 generations of racism and bigotry?

You need to pay more attention to what he is saying.

I don't know what history book you've been reading, but we were killing off the Native American population and sending them to reservations LONG after the Revolutionary War.

Yes, there are currently college scholarships available. That is a recent development and a minor one in comparison to the years of poverty and its inherent social issues. If you had ever been to a reservation (going to go out on a real limb here) you wouldn't be yapping about "white folks guilt" and the "soft bigotry of low expectations." If you come from a poor family, go to school in a poor neighborhood, or your parents do not have a higher education, the deck is already statistically stacked against you, regardless of your color or heritage.

The obesity problem you speak of is not an indicator that people are getting enough food, but often that the foods they CAN afford are unhealthy and fattening.

Mr. bug, I think you need to remember they were killing us also.

The obesity problem you speak of is not an indicator that people are getting enough food, but often that the foods they CAN afford are unhealthy and fattening.

A McDonald's "Value" Meal, costs over $5 in most areas. One can easily go to the grocery store and buy healthy groceries and with a few basic instructions, produce a great tasting, healthy, balanced meal for that price, if not less. So, I don't understand your point.

What is all this for? She simply stated the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, Texas.

I was just saying hi.

A McDonald's "Value" Meal, costs over $5 in most areas. One can easily go to the grocery store and buy healthy groceries and with a few basic instructions, produce a great tasting, healthy, balanced meal for that price, if not less. So, I don't understand your point.

Again, a good point being made.

So does 6th gen mean 6 generations of racism and bigotry?

This comment is not appropriate.

I thought the same thing. It is unreal that the announcement of Falwell's death trumped the interview with Tony Blair (on NBC). I about threw the remote through the TV screen.

I think the moral majority may disagree.

So does 6th gen mean 6 generations of racism and bigotry?

No, it means that my family moved to this beloved state 7 generations ago, I think around the 1840s, but I'd have to double check. Again, I'm impressed that you picked up that "6thGen" meant Sixth Generation, given the circumstances. Kudos again.

Where one person starts, does not determine where one ends.

6th Gen, I'll give you one to start:

Cornelius Vanderbilt

I'll tell you what makes me laugh -- the Rebublican Party Presidential "Debates" last night.

I just couldn't watch.

Excerpt to clarify the obesity vs. hunger idea:

The causes of obesity are complex; and problems associated with being overweight and obese affect all Americans, regardless of income or race. Emerging research suggests, however, that hunger, poverty and obesity may be intricately linked. Recent work from Cornell University and the University of California at Davis suggest that obesity among poor women may be linked to their habit of periodically going without food so that their children can eat.

Others factors also may contribute to the problem. Low income people may consume greater amounts of less expensive, high-calorie and high-fat foods to guard against hunger, or may be unable to afford sufficient amounts of more nutritious food. Cash-strapped families may increasingly rely on fast food chains, which promote "value" meals, such as oversized burgers, extra-large servings of fries and buckets of soda. Healthier foods ? such as meat, fish, fresh fruits, vegetables and whole grains ? often are more expensive than alternative junk food.
Poor neighborhoods often lack large grocery stores that typically offer the lowest prices and greatest range of brands, package sizes and quality choices.
They also often do not have access to farmers? markets that sell locally grown fresh fruits and vegetables. Transportation to these large grocery stores and farmers? markets also may be unavailable or expensive. Consequently, many families in low-income neighborhoods depend on their corner convenience stores, which often are stocked with high-cost, processed, pre-packaged foods. Exacerbating this problem, low-income families, especially those living in urban areas, often do not have safe areas for physical activity.

We? I've never taken land, pride or way of life away from any American Indian. They have taken much more from me at the casinos, but I'm not *****ing about it. So leave me out of your white guilt trip.

I love this simplistic " Jerry Springer-esque" line of reasoning. I never personally owned a slave ; I never personally hurt an Indian ; I never dropped a nuclear bomb on anyone ; I never put U.S citizens in internment camps. Not my fault so bite me right.

The same joker will be the first to take credit for all the great things the U.S has brought to the world-- democracy , freedom of religion , the Constitution, and on.

Ask them why they deserve all the priviledges of living in this country , and all of a sudden they will tell you how many generations they have been here ( may even put it in their online name ).

I deserve all the good but am not responsible for any of the bad. Hypocritical. Now that i read this , I think we should call it the " Brown/Gonzalez/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz" defense.