Application for development has been made to Walton County regarding a 9-1/2 acre parcel classified as village mixed use, which would not require a land use change. The parcel is one lot off 98 on the east side of Sugar Drive. The proposed 2-story, 12,397 square-foot restaurant is classified as a major development.
The restaurant will first go to the technical review committee at 8:30am on Feb 3 at the SoWal courthouse annex, then on to the planning commission and the BCC.
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58Beach Fanatic
I am kinda thinking of this as a "homecoming" for Fuds. That started out in a shanty on the beach in Miramar (Old 98 before there was a New 98). Fun times had there!!
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SoWal Guide
I just never saw 98 (at least the part that is just north of 30a's west end) to be anything special at all. I see old nasty looking strip malls. A few great businesses here and there but mostly looks like an area fallen on hard times.
So I don't really understand why folks believe the development of commercial establishments that we will actually use is going to be worse than what we have now.
Love having the new publix. Looking forward to a closer walmart. Thrilled about a chickfila for the kids once I'm a while. Make no mistake- I don't want any of these on 30a but 98 just isn't that sacred to me. The only downsides I can think of are traffic and light pollution.
take a good long last look at Hwy 98. someday you'll miss the undeveloped, unpretentious, unpopulated, few shabby structures amid wide open space. I know I will.
but I take your point - Fuds is going to be fine in SoWal. Its a great spot for tourists to enjoy. Frankly, it does make sense because it is very casual - and we do need more casual and family friendly restaurants around here.
I literally LOVE all three Publix stores - I could not be happier. But, then I heard about a Winn Dixie coming in? I just can't believe we need a 4th (or 5th including walmart) large grocery store?
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Beach Lover
Fud's was in Seagrove for a while and IMO it was just a bit to early for it to make it. The establishment was classy and not a remake of Fud's in Destin. Father Fud is a friend of the family and I look forward to the new establishment and I trust he is well aware of the standards here verses Destin or PCB. I hope the local peeps will give Fud's a chance especially since the Sowal Fud's concept hasn't been made public yet. The owners of Fudpuckers are very community minded and I know they will make great neighbors.
That is good to hear. The Fuds in Destin fits there. Glad to hear the Fuds in Sowal will fit there.
Beach Crab
I just never saw 98 (at least the part that is just north of 30a's west end) to be anything special at all. I see old nasty looking strip malls. A few great businesses here and there but mostly looks like an area fallen on hard times.
So I don't really understand why folks believe the development of commercial establishments that we will actually use is going to be worse than what we have now.
Love having the new publix. Looking forward to a closer walmart. Thrilled about a chickfila for the kids once I'm a while. Make no mistake- I don't want any of these on 30a but 98 just isn't that sacred to me. The only downsides I can think of are traffic and light pollution.
I agree completely. I also think as long as the county maintains some control over the design of some of these buildings, we can keep it from looking tacky. That control will also be a deterrent to some businesses that we probably don't want to see.
Beach Fanatic
I am kinda thinking of this as a "homecoming" for Fuds. That started out in a shanty on the beach in Miramar (Old 98 before there was a New 98). Fun times had there!!
I remember that little shack and used to go there back in the day when there was no "new" 98 and it took quite a while in the summer just to get into Destin to get some groceries...lol.
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Always glad to hear a "local boy" doing good. I too remember surfing in front of the original place Chester had in (what is now ) Miramar beach. (funny how a 2 block long S/D now takes up 10 miles!) Chester has always been a stand up guy and matched his business to the clientel available. He is a class act doing business and a family guy. I saw him for the first time in 10 years up the ditch last weekend trout fishin'. Maybe if he opens up here we'll see more of him. I'm sure he'll keep his standards of jumping into helping the community around his business
Another quick note-- there are a lot of "kids" in the area that got thier education because of Chesters wife-- she kept teachin' LONG after the restaraunts had made it big-- just the way that family ran----
Change and development are inevitable, this area is too nice for all the yankees to not want to be here. Business owners with local ties are always better than a distant corporation that dosn't care-------
Deadfish
Another quick note-- there are a lot of "kids" in the area that got thier education because of Chesters wife-- she kept teachin' LONG after the restaraunts had made it big-- just the way that family ran----
Change and development are inevitable, this area is too nice for all the yankees to not want to be here. Business owners with local ties are always better than a distant corporation that dosn't care-------
Deadfish
SoWal Expert
I'm sure that I will not stop FudPuckers from succeeding in SoWal.
That said, I fail to see how a new restaurant opening in SoWal will create more jobs. From my point of view (very limited), I see a fixed number of diners in SoWal in a given year. That may grow, but not due to the number of restaurants. A new restaurant such as Fud's will pull business from other existing restaurants. So, while it may seem like Fud's will be creating new jobs, in a sense, they will be taking income from employees working at other restaurants, which may lead to less staff on a given shift.
I am very much in favor of choices, and the successful businesses will prosper and the poor ones typically close shop. That is a good thing. I just don't like tackiness mixed with mass dining -- reminds of places like Gatlinburg, TN and Helen, GA.
By the way, my thoughts on the comment about it being on hwy 98 -- "so what:"
Just wait until hwy 98 is filled with traffic lights and bumber to bumper traffic. It may not be bad today, but eventually, Hwy 98 will likely be seasonally busy and much slower to navigate. Walmarts mixing with Bald Eagles and Black Bears -- just doesn't work for me, but hey, Walmart is "successful," if you care about only numbers on a piece of paper. I care about much more.
That said, I fail to see how a new restaurant opening in SoWal will create more jobs. From my point of view (very limited), I see a fixed number of diners in SoWal in a given year. That may grow, but not due to the number of restaurants. A new restaurant such as Fud's will pull business from other existing restaurants. So, while it may seem like Fud's will be creating new jobs, in a sense, they will be taking income from employees working at other restaurants, which may lead to less staff on a given shift.
I am very much in favor of choices, and the successful businesses will prosper and the poor ones typically close shop. That is a good thing. I just don't like tackiness mixed with mass dining -- reminds of places like Gatlinburg, TN and Helen, GA.
By the way, my thoughts on the comment about it being on hwy 98 -- "so what:"
Just wait until hwy 98 is filled with traffic lights and bumber to bumper traffic. It may not be bad today, but eventually, Hwy 98 will likely be seasonally busy and much slower to navigate. Walmarts mixing with Bald Eagles and Black Bears -- just doesn't work for me, but hey, Walmart is "successful," if you care about only numbers on a piece of paper. I care about much more.
Beach Fanatic
I'm sure that I will not stop FudPuckers from succeeding in SoWal.
That said, I fail to see how a new restaurant opening in SoWal will create more jobs. From my point of view (very limited), I see a fixed number of diners in SoWal in a given year. That may grow, but not due to the number of restaurants. A new restaurant such as Fud's will pull business from other existing restaurants. So, while it may seem like Fud's will be creating new jobs, in a sense, they will be taking income from employees working at other restaurants, which may lead to less staff on a given shift.
I am very much in favor of choices, and the successful businesses will prosper and the poor ones typically close shop. That is a good thing. I just don't like tackiness mixed with mass dining -- reminds of places like Gatlinburg, TN and Helen, GA.
By the way, my thoughts on the comment about it being on hwy 98 -- "so what:"
Just wait until hwy 98 is filled with traffic lights and bumber to bumper traffic. It may not be bad today, but eventually, Hwy 98 will likely be seasonally busy and much slower to navigate. Walmarts mixing with Bald Eagles and Black Bears -- just doesn't work for me, but hey, Walmart is "successful," if you care about only numbers on a piece of paper. I care about much more.
But when is the last time the restaurants around here hired people? Alot of them have Russians working in the kitchens instead of locals and the locals that do get jobs are keeping them longer than ever these days because of the economy and, again, the fact that there are no jobs in SoWal. We need all the potential jobs we can get.
Beach Fanatic
Fud's was in Seagrove for a while and IMO it was just a bit to early for it to make it. The establishment was classy and not a remake of Fud's in Destin. Father Fud is a friend of the family and I look forward to the new establishment and I trust he is well aware of the standards here verses Destin or PCB. I hope the local peeps will give Fud's a chance especially since the Sowal Fud's concept hasn't been made public yet. The owners of Fudpuckers are very community minded and I know they will make great neighbors.
I'm against a FUD anywhere near 30A if I had my choice, but I understand property rights have some place in this discussion too. If the family that owns the fudpuck dynasty really shares the vision of 30A as unique, then maybe they'll get with a local architect or designer to recreate a new style Walton Co. FUDpuckers. There are ways to at last make the tacky, faux tasteful. To me, the bigger travesty are the dozens of sh*tty Myrtle Beach/PCB/VomitCity USA style signs that our own damn Tourist Development Counsel put on 30A last year.
Beach Fanatic
Just had a rational thought.
I'm in favor of FudPuckers if they're taxed properly.
The way I see it, having a cheesy fudpuckers lowers everyone in South Walton's property value, by a half percent. Add up the value of all property in South Walton, and have FudPuckers pay the lost value, over 30 years, as a "value loser assessment"
The reason rich assholes from Montgomery want to come to South Walton instead of PCB or Orange Beach is their apparently mistaken belief that no FUDPUCKERS will be here.... now we're gonna f*ck that up to displace (create) 5 part time jobs running a deep frier?
Like I said, if FudPuckers will simply remit 0.5% of the total South Walton proerty valuation, over the next 30 years, than it will be a fair deal.
I'm in favor of FudPuckers if they're taxed properly.
The way I see it, having a cheesy fudpuckers lowers everyone in South Walton's property value, by a half percent. Add up the value of all property in South Walton, and have FudPuckers pay the lost value, over 30 years, as a "value loser assessment"
The reason rich assholes from Montgomery want to come to South Walton instead of PCB or Orange Beach is their apparently mistaken belief that no FUDPUCKERS will be here.... now we're gonna f*ck that up to displace (create) 5 part time jobs running a deep frier?
Like I said, if FudPuckers will simply remit 0.5% of the total South Walton proerty valuation, over the next 30 years, than it will be a fair deal.
Beach Fanatic
If you go solely by interiors, there isn't a huge difference between the inside of a Fud's and the inside of the Red Bar.
Beach Fanatic
I am kinda thinking of this as a "homecoming" for Fuds. That started out in a shanty on the beach in Miramar (Old 98 before there was a New 98). Fun times had there!!
I remember that! One of my earliest memories of this area and it's beautiful beaches -- my first time in the area, we happened to pull over at Fud's for a soda.
Beach Fanatic
Just had a rational thought.
I'm in favor of FudPuckers if they're taxed properly.
The way I see it, having a cheesy fudpuckers lowers everyone in South Walton's property value, by a half percent. Add up the value of all property in South Walton, and have FudPuckers pay the lost value, over 30 years, as a "value loser assessment"
The reason rich assholes from Montgomery want to come to South Walton instead of PCB or Orange Beach is their apparently mistaken belief that no FUDPUCKERS will be here.... now we're gonna f*ck that up to displace (create) 5 part time jobs running a deep frier?
Like I said, if FudPuckers will simply remit 0.5% of the total South Walton proerty valuation, over the next 30 years, than it will be a fair deal.
Again, that is your opinion and others that disagree with you are not wrong just because you say so. You seem to be speaking for alot of people from other places about why they come here and what they want. Sounds like it is what you want that matters to you.
Beach Fanatic
I'm against a FUD anywhere near 30A if I had my choice, but I understand property rights have some place in this discussion too. If the family that owns the fudpuck dynasty really shares the vision of 30A as unique, then maybe they'll get with a local architect or designer to recreate a new style Walton Co. FUDpuckers. There are ways to at last make the tacky, faux tasteful. To me, the bigger travesty are the dozens of sh*tty Myrtle Beach/PCB/VomitCity USA style signs that our own damn Tourist Development Counsel put on 30A last year.
Since when do "we" get to declare what is tacky. I think we need more funk out this way. I happen to think the Village of South Walton is one of the tackiest buildings I have ever seen. I wish we had more funky, tacky building with chickens, pigs and dogs running wild. We need to get back to the funk that made this area unique. Its people like Chester that make it happen. He created a business that adaptes to the demand of his clients. He would do the same in Sowal and would probably continue to donate greatly to our community like he does in Destin.
I spoke with Chester today and keep in mind this is still in the very early stages. They are really just feeling it out at this time.
"You aint been pucked till you been fudpucked"! Father Fud will be a fine addition to Sowal 98!
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SWGB
To me it sounds like Fudpuckers will design something that blends with it's surroundings. Keep in mind that in Destin it's surrounded by go-cart tracks (do those qualify as LSV's?
) and water parks. Over all it does actually fit where it is. I would imagine they would hire a local architect and if my source is correct they are already seeking one.
As to the issue of jobs, it seems like many restaurants simply close down for the off season. I seriously doubt they are paying the employees who are not working when they do so. Way back when me and DS were still dating we went to Fudpucker's with some friends and had a blast. This was in either January or February and while the entire restaurant wasn't open the employees were still working.
As to the issue of jobs, it seems like many restaurants simply close down for the off season. I seriously doubt they are paying the employees who are not working when they do so. Way back when me and DS were still dating we went to Fudpucker's with some friends and had a blast. This was in either January or February and while the entire restaurant wasn't open the employees were still working.
Beach Fanatic
What? U and DS aren't together anymore?
SWGB
What? U and DS aren't together anymore?
When we were just dating, before we got all committed (a perfect word to describe marriage).
SoWal Expert
I'd certainly prefer to see a funky local business come in - rather than a cookie cutter chain.
But I think SJ has a valid point about the limited number of diners and diner dollars to be spent - especially these days. We keep getting more restaurants and while I would love to keep my faves in the black, that lotto ticket just hasn't won me anything yet.
But I think SJ has a valid point about the limited number of diners and diner dollars to be spent - especially these days. We keep getting more restaurants and while I would love to keep my faves in the black, that lotto ticket just hasn't won me anything yet.
Beach Comber
I remember that! One of my earliest memories of this area and it's beautiful beaches -- my first time in the area, we happened to pull over at Fud's for a soda.
While at Pompano Joe's last night, our server told us that was the location of the old Fudpucker's. Does that seem correct?
beats on hood
Good God, Fudpuckers is so tacky. PCB, here we come!

SWGB
While I do understand SJ's point, did I miss the part this past summer when people were just waltzing into restaurants and being seated immediately? Everywhere we went was a wait.
Beach Fanatic
I would rather see a FUDs on 98 then another PF Chang style restaurant with giant Trojan horses out front. Now that's tacky. 
Beach Fanatic
While at Pompano Joe's last night, our server told us that was the location of the old Fudpucker's. Does that seem correct?yep...
Beach Lover
Its funny how everyone doesnt want 30 A to be like Destin and PCB when most of you are the ones to blame for it. Ive lived in Inlet Beach for 50 years in 4 different houses and remember when nobody lived on 30A. Now the people that come here in droves complain about progress. We have always envisioned the day FWB to PCB was one big city. PCB and FWB are the only towns around with true locals thats why they have better bars. Hardly anybody that works on 30A lives there. Everybody migrates in and then complains. True locals have always loved Seaside and the Red Bar and think the rest is a bunch of crap. I live 2 blocks from Rosemary and will never understand the attraction of that place. Complain about going to PCB and Destin but dont want a Walmart. For Sowal to be the perfect place to live you need to have everything with no need to go anywhere else, therefore bring on Walmart.
Beach Fanatic
Don't worry about all the traffic. Our commissioners will do a traffic study and it will be decided for all of us that the increased traffic won't be an issue. Yea, right!!!!!
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