Give Sarah Palin a Hand...

she comes off as a retard who resigned the governorship for money

Resigning when she did was actually smart - it meant millions and not having to govern when times got tough in Alaska.

And I thought she had a valid point about not using the word "retard" as an insult (though of course she totally fumbled the carry through.)

there are valid reasons why you keep a common man/woman away from the steering wheel. we have just been taught a miserable lesson.

Was that Johnny Carson?

The point is that she is a hypocritical moron.

I thought it was hypercrite?

It's Thingy

Now, that's danged funny! :funn:

Basically she is everything that is wrong with politics - critical w/o offering solutions, devisive, unqualified/unaware, humorless, and pandering to a base who cannot see the forest for the trees.

She might be a good speaker/fundraiser/commentator for the GOP/Fox, but the thought of her actually being part of our government at such a critical time chills my blood.

I can think of other people and actions that are worse. Just my opinion.

I guess I am wondering why you care, because intellectually, I know you are above this. Some media outlets have it front page and center when there should be more important matters, not an outlet to wrap fish in. It's odd to me that those outlets think that they can sway her base into believing she is a hypocrite. Maybe we should care more about what they are not reporting, like Republicans worthy of our interest.

Including sowal.com

Except that she had just criticized someone else for doing something similar. That's always been my issue with her. That and her great ability to distort facts every-time she opens her mouth.

It was the ugly sentiment that Palin roused in the presidental ralleys that lost me forever for her and for McCains vote. I don't agree that she has common sense. She is cunning and will tell the mases what they want to hear to remain popular as most all politicians. If she had common sense she would not have left Alaska in the situation she did when she left her elected post there. The gas pipe line she always claimed fame over. Look it up now. Doubtful it will ever get built. Her flip-flop on Rush and the use of the word retarded was just one more in a long line of "do as I say, not as I do" that we can get used to from her. She's a politician, she is not a leader. The whole start a war with Iran deal. :shock: Wow, we know whose playbook she would play from if she needed a second term

Sorry, this entire response was not to you, Lynnie. I just got a little carried away.

I am not offended. Haven't Y'all figured this out, yet? I would hope sowallers are open to everyones' opinions. Sometimes, I see different actions. Thanks for your opinion.

Well, you finally got your wish. It is no longer peaceful and quiet around here and its all your fault.

Successful fight~~~~ :roll:

listen pal!

I have two friends say this and sound like 70's cool dudes, but they're really boobs.

YouTube- George Bush Idiot Quotes he was only admitted because of his academic record

These are hysterical. And, could be why Obama is so reliant on the teleprompter.......ever thought of that?

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Scooterbug44, what's with the sig? And Jdarg, seriously???

Jesus, you do not have my vote. I am absolutely emphatically against any Holier Than Thou, Bible Thumpin' Jesus Freak for United States President. ;-)

Just sayin~~~~

And that's where you're wrong! Many of the people on this board would do just as well as President as many of those before them have done. Evidently you have an impression of our President as someone who is all powerful, omnipotent and above all other citizens. I don't and feel many could be President if they had the money, agressiveness and backing to pursue the office.

Andy, I am just as certain you are wrong as you are that I am wrong.

The vast majority of the citizens in the US are thoroughly unqualified to be POTUS. And while Sowallers might be some of the sharper knives in the drawer, the fact is most of us are not qualified to be POTUS (let alone president of a homeowners association). Do I believe there are a few who would do well? Yes- a very few.

I don't have an impression that the POTUS is "all powerful, omnipotent and above all citizens". But I also have no delusions that just anybody who is aggressive and has money and backing can or should do it.

Your a smart man, Geo, but I often wonder if you do not think many, including some on this board, are well below your level of expertise and intelligence.

Andy, wonder no more. I make absolutely no apology for thinking that many people (including some on this board) are well below my level of expertise and intelligence. And without hesitation- I can assure you that many people (including some on this board) are well above my level of expertise and intelligence.

I'm disappointed you decided to get personal here. We were talking about Sarah Palin and whether or not she is a dumbbell.

I am sure I would hate your policies as much as I dislike most of Obama's.

I don't think that would be the case. Just like I don't vote along party lines I also don't base my stance on issues consistent with what is traditional to one party. For some issues, you'd love me. For others, not so much. I'd imagine the net effect would probably be that I am somewhere in the middle.

I don't think her having something written on her hand is any more an issue than the President using a teleprompter. They are both non issues in my opinion.

Surely with millions out of jobs and many more without insurance there are more important issues to be concerned about by either party.

Well, you finally got your wish. It is no longer peaceful and quiet around here and its all your fault.

So glad to see things back to normal around here!
LOL!

I believe that many people are against Sarah Palin as POTUS is because it is a job that should be reserved for the best and the brightest. Sarah Palin as POTUS is like William Hung as the next American Idol. FOX News is basically Vote for the Worst at this point.

The above reference was in case Mrs. Palin is following along.

The above reference was in case Mrs. Palin is following along.

I'd like to see her on survivor. I think she might win it. But she has to go on with other politicians or political commentators. I also wished she had stood up to Rush. I'm thinking, death match, FOX Island and Beck as a wild card.

I don't think her having something written on her hand is any more an issue than the President using a teleprompter. They are both non issues in my opinion.

Surely with millions out of jobs and many more without insurance there are more important issues to be concerned about by either party.

I write stuff on my hand sometimes - when I really need to remember some minor item, am out of post-its, and have 83 things going on - on the outside (over my manual labor scars) as a short-term reminder and it usually gets washed off because I actually wash my hands after using the restroom and before cooking or eating.

And I can't do it around Mama Scooterbug because she finds it tacky and tells me "you're not a billboard".

It's dumb.

I sure as hell wouldn't do it in any public or formal setting. There are basic and proven methods to remembering lists of items for a speech.

And I sure as sheet wouldn't be doing it when I am a televised figure being paid $100K to give a speech and mock someone for using a 21st century device to help me just in case I lose my place in a prepared speech.

I was once one hell of a public speaker. I won the debate, mock trial, and forensics (prepared & extemporaneous) medals to prove it. My coaches would have either biatch slapped me or left me at the out-of-town venue if I was DUMB enough to write such stupid and illogical cues on my hand.

So Palin is either a bigger moron than I thought (did not think that possible) or has some people pulling her marionette strings who decided that would be the distraction du jour.

Definitely agree that this is a stupid thing for us to be discussing. But I think it is an even stupider thing for us to be discussing this when there are such bigger issues..................and when we continue to let supremely unqualified people and non-news crap distract us from the actual issue.

Palin is the Lenny Dykstra of presidential candidates.

I am not a fan of Mrs. Palin and certainly do not feel she would make a good President, however I don't find her comment about the President to be mocking but more in the light of they were there to discuss more important issues than the President using a teleprompter and the king or queen of a tea party.

Which to me is a reference to what the news media likes to focus on instead of more serious issues.

This is about the people and it's bigger than any king or queen of a tea party and it's a lot bigger than any charismatic guy with a teleprompter," said Palin.

According to several news sources the notes on her hand were not used for her $100,000 speech, which she noted would be donated to the cause, but for the question and answer section. She had written notes for the speech.

I just feel if you are going to critize her at least know what happened.

Andy, I am just as certain you are wrong as you are that I am wrong.

The vast majority of the citizens in the US are thoroughly unqualified to be POTUS. And while Sowallers might be some of the sharper knives in the drawer, the fact is most of us are not qualified to be POTUS (let alone president of a homeowners association). Do I believe there are a few who would do well? Yes- a very few.

I don't have an impression that the POTUS is "all powerful, omnipotent and above all citizens". But I also have no delusions that just anybody who is aggressive and has money and backing can or should do it.



Andy, wonder no more. I make absolutely no apology for thinking that many people (including some on this board) are well below my level of expertise and intelligence. And without hesitation- I can assure you that many people (including some on this board) are well above my level of expertise and intelligence.

I'm disappointed you decided to get personal here. We were talking about Sarah Palin and whether or not she is a dumbbell.



I don't think that would be the case. Just like I don't vote along party lines I also don't base my stance on issues consistent with what is traditional to one party. For some issues, you'd love me. For others, not so much. I'd imagine the net effect would probably be that I am somewhere in the middle.

You're disappointed someone got personal here?

Minnie, it should be obvious to you that most on this board could care less what really happened. The obvious hate... and many will now deny it by saying she isn't smart enough or some othe such nonsense... is astounding. It isn't what she has done in Alaska it is what she might do in our federal government which is in such sad shape it isn't worth talking about, only worth correcting.
Geo, if you think I was too personal, I apologize but I was only expressing a perspective that I believe a lot of normally intelligent and educated citizens feel. Presidents, if the past two are any indication, do not have to be the brightest and best in the land. That is why every one of them have dozens of advisors. One man cannot do it by himself no matter how intelligent and educated he is. There are many schools in this country that do just as good a job of preparing their students for life as the Ivy League schools do. The University of Idaho and the University of Central Oklahoma are two I can think of off hand. Frankly, from what I have seen of those in higher authority because of their Harvard, Yale, Princeton or other Ivy League education, the less I am impressed. I will reiterate the last two, both Harvard graduates, show me little in the area of how to govern as the leader of the executive branch, and subsequently our country. To me, in many cases, it appears that the Liberal elite believe that all other citizens are incapable of making their own decisions and they will be much better off if we do it for them out of the goodness of our hearts and our superior intellectual ability. But then that is but one old man's opinion who has been around long enough to see how both halves live.

Refer to the original post which makes reference to Palin looking at the notes during the Q and A...

You're disappointed someone got personal here?

Yeah, I am.

I was on an internet forum discussing why I believe Alaska's former governor lacks the cognitive capacity to be POTUS when someone decided to tell me how I think I am smarter than others.



Me saying most people in the US are unqualified to be POTUS isn't getting personal especially considering that I put myself in that same category.

Minnie, it should be obvious to you that most on this board could care less what really happened. The obvious hate... and many will now deny it by saying she isn't smart enough or some othe such nonsense... is astounding.

Andy, the premise of the thread is that "Palin lacks the intelligence required to be POTUS because..."

It was never- "I hate Palin because..."

You are projecting thoughts and emotions onto people instead of engaging in the debate. If you believe she is smart enough to be POTUS then tell us...

Yeah, I am.

I was on an internet forum discussing why I believe Alaska's former governor lacks the cognitive capacity to be POTUS when someone decided to tell me how I think I am smarter than others.



Me saying most people in the US are unqualified to be POTUS isn't getting personal especially considering that I put myself in that same category.

If one person addresses you in a condescending fashion, you have the choice to either flag the post or ignore them. You in turn called out members of the Board as not being capable or lacking enough intelligence to be a Board President, nevermind POTUS. Sowal is a small community, and I well aware that you know of some who serve their Associations, and in what capacity, who also post on this Board. You may not have named names directly, but I feel you may have through insinuation, because your responses on this Board in the past have always been well thought out.

If one person addresses you in a condescending fashion, you have the choice to either flag the post or ignore them. You in turn called out members of the Board as not being capable or lacking enough intelligence to be a Board President, nevermind POTUS. Sowal is a small community, and I well aware that you know of some who serve their Associations, and in what capacity, who also post on this Board. You may not have named names directly, but I feel you may have through insinuation, because your responses on this Board in the past have always been well thought out.

Huh? I'm afraid I am not with you at all, Mango. Your post leads me to believe you are reacting to something you think I said rather than something I did say.

Let me reiterate- I said that Palin isn't qualified to be POTUS. I went on to say that most people aren't qualified to be POTUS (let alone president of a homeowners association) AND I included myself in this category.

And you are somehow interpreting this as a personal attack against you or some other individual in this area or any other?

Let me know if I handled the other poster's personal attack inappropriately because I feel I took the high road.

G

EDIT: For the record, (besides myself) I cannot think of the name of any person who is the president of their homeowners association. The only individual citizen whose intelligence I am expressing concern about in this thread (directly or indirectly) is Sarah Palin. So again, I don't get where you are coming from.

If one person addresses you in a condescending fashion, you have the choice to either flag the post or ignore them. You in turn called out members of the Board as not being capable or lacking enough intelligence to be a Board President, nevermind POTUS. Sowal is a small community, and I well aware that you know of some who serve their Associations, and in what capacity, who also post on this Board. You may not have named names directly, but I feel you may have through insinuation, because your responses on this Board in the past have always been well thought out.

mango, were you ever a hall monitor back in the day? Because you do a thorough job here.

your post is not worthy of any kind of response.

idolize the beauty queen! she's in your reaganesque wet dreams! in real life, she's the final chapter of the peter principle.

Andy, the premise of the thread is that "Palin lacks the intelligence required to be POTUS because..."

It was never- "I hate Palin because..."

You are projecting thoughts and emotions onto people instead of engaging in the debate. If you believe she is smart enough to be POTUS then tell us...

Geo, I think many, myself included, would agree that Sarah Palin is not a top candidate for President. However never would I base that decision on her writing a few words on her hand. Just as I don't think using a teleprompter affects the ability of the President.

I personally think there are many choices of other women who are more qualified to be President than her.

I just think the media and some that follow the media; for lack of a better term, nitpick everything these days about politicians including the President.

If you fart in public I seriously doubt it will make the news, however I can assure you if the President or Sarah Palin does, It will make the news within minutes of happening.

To me that is a very sad commentary of what the focus has become in this nation.

Huh? I'm afraid I am not with you at all, Mango. Your post leads me to believe you are reacting to something you think I said rather than something I did say.

Let me reiterate- I said that Palin isn't qualified to be POTUS. I went on to say that most people aren't qualified to be POTUS (let alone president of a homeowners association) AND I included myself in this category.

And you are somehow interpreting this as a personal attack against you or some other individual in this area or any other?

Let me know if I handled the other poster's personal attack inappropriately because I feel I took the high road.

G

EDIT: For the record, (besides myself) I cannot think of the name of any person who is the president of their homeowners association. The only individual citizen whose intelligence I am expressing concern about in this thread (directly or indirectly) is Sarah Palin. So again, I don't get where you are coming from.

That's funny! i don't even know who serves on my HOA let alone someone else's!

idolize the beauty queen! she's in your reaganesque wet dreams! in real life, she's the final chapter of the peter principle.

This post seems very appropriate to the thread title.

Well then, have at it and run for President in 2012. I think it might just take a miracle to get this country back on an even keel.

Ok. You called my bluff. You're right, I couldn't fix this my first year either!

Minnie, it should be obvious to you that most on this board could care less what really happened. The obvious hate... and many will now deny it by saying she isn't smart enough or some othe such nonsense... is astounding. It isn't what she has done in Alaska it is what she might do in our federal government which is in such sad shape it isn't worth talking about, only worth correcting.
Geo, if you think I was too personal, I apologize but I was only expressing a perspective that I believe a lot of normally intelligent and educated citizens feel. Presidents, if the past two are any indication, do not have to be the brightest and best in the land. That is why every one of them have dozens of advisors. One man cannot do it by himself no matter how intelligent and educated he is. There are many schools in this country that do just as good a job of preparing their students for life as the Ivy League schools do. The University of Idaho and the University of Central Oklahoma are two I can think of off hand. Frankly, from what I have seen of those in higher authority because of their Harvard, Yale, Princeton or other Ivy League education, the less I am impressed. I will reiterate the last two, both Harvard graduates, show me little in the area of how to govern as the leader of the executive branch, and subsequently our country. To me, in many cases, it appears that the Liberal elite believe that all other citizens are incapable of making their own decisions and they will be much better off if we do it for them out of the goodness of our hearts and our superior intellectual ability. But then that is but one old man's opinion who has been around long enough to see how both halves live.

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