ClintClint
ClintClintBeach Fanatic599 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
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I'm seeing numbers all over the place and am having a difficult time establishing a fair market value for a particular lot. It's .5 acre south of 30A between Cypress Dunes and Big Redfish Lake. It's on a private paved road and will require a well and septic tank. It's in flood zone X and within the Coastal Barrier Zone. Does anyone care to venture a guesstimate???
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33joho
johoBeach Fanatic1,133 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
I'm seeing numbers all over the place and am having a difficult time establishing a fair market value for a particular lot. It's .5 acre south of 30A between Cypress Dunes and Big Redfish Lake. It's on a private paved road and will require a well and septic tank. It's in flood zone X and within the Coastal Barrier Zone. Does anyone care to venture a guesstimate???
There's alot of 30A between Cypress Dunes and Big Red Fish Lake..........
Do you mean Stallworth Lake?
Gulfview?
I meant Draper Lake. I can't find recent comps for any .5 acre lots though. There are plenty of comps for the very small lots in the intensely developed areas, but this is not like that.
GoodWitch58GoodWitch58Beach Fanatic4,810 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
that covers a lot of area...where is the lot?
I'm putting together an offer so you'll understand if I don't identify the exact location. I don't mean to be so elusive about it, but it took about a year to find this. I found that .5 acre south of 30A is pretty rare--- and even harder to value. I hoped that the invaluable experience of the members and their willingness to help might come up with a concensus value.
GoodWitch58GoodWitch58Beach Fanatic4,810 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
well, I can understand that...but there is a lot of area between Cypress Dunes at the West End of 30 A and Draper Lake in Blue Mt...a lot depends on location.
a Realtor should be able to help you;
a Realtor should be able to help you;
SHELLY
SHELLYSoWal Insider5,763 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
I'm putting together an offer so you'll understand if I don't identify the exact location. I don't mean to be so elusive about it, but it took about a year to find this. I found that .5 acre south of 30A is pretty rare--- and even harder to value. I hoped that the invaluable experience of the members and their willingness to help might come up with a concensus value.
When did you purchase the lot?
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I haven't bought it yet. I'm going to make an offer. I've got my own gut feeling on the value, but the view from up here in Atlanta may be distorted. I hope that the collective wisdom of the members can help.
JoshMclean
JoshMcleanBeach FanaticSanta Rosa Beach995 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Nobody can give you any decent information without knowing where the lot is. I surely wouldn't take anyone's guesses on it.
I agree with you Josh 100% because there aren't any comps. I guess it's just whatever the market will pay.
JoshMclean
JoshMcleanBeach FanaticSanta Rosa Beach995 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
I agree with you Josh 100% because there aren't any comps. I guess it's just whatever the market will pay.
Check your pm box.
SHELLY
SHELLYSoWal Insider5,763 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
I haven't bought it yet. I'm going to make an offer. I've got my own gut feeling on the value, but the view from up here in Atlanta may be distorted. I hope that the collective wisdom of the members can help.
Oops...read through too fast--thought you were trying to unload the property and set a price.
Well then, when did the seller purchase the lot, at what price and what's the current asking price? How long has it been on the market? Are you going to pay cash?..or finance.
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Edited
The property isn't listed and was bought back in the 90s at some absurdly low price (by today's standards)
YoungFTYoungFTBeach Lover66 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Lover
In the absence of comps...
I would suggest estimating along several dimensions.
1. As you're doing, get the smart local guys to offer an opinion even if it's a wild ass range, it could help
2. There has to be some lot sales that you can adjust up or down based on size and distance to beach
3. Shelley may have been implying this approach, but if it's unimproved land, other than the purchase price and annual taxes the current owner hasn't much additional capital invested so you could take the price they paid, assume 10-12% annual appreciation (might be high) and see where that gets you into a reasonable price range. (If the home was purchased in 1993, grew 11% per year in value you would multiply the purchase price by 4.78 to come up with today's value )
Good luck and let us know what price you came up with, how and if it was accepted. Curious minds want to know.
I would suggest estimating along several dimensions.
1. As you're doing, get the smart local guys to offer an opinion even if it's a wild ass range, it could help
2. There has to be some lot sales that you can adjust up or down based on size and distance to beach
3. Shelley may have been implying this approach, but if it's unimproved land, other than the purchase price and annual taxes the current owner hasn't much additional capital invested so you could take the price they paid, assume 10-12% annual appreciation (might be high) and see where that gets you into a reasonable price range. (If the home was purchased in 1993, grew 11% per year in value you would multiply the purchase price by 4.78 to come up with today's value )
Good luck and let us know what price you came up with, how and if it was accepted. Curious minds want to know.
AAbsolute
AAbsoluteBannedWatercolor, Watersound and 12 days a year 59th Str1,814 postsJoined View profileMessageBanned
You might go to the Walton County Property Appraisers website and search the lot a number of ways. Look at its full card and then select recent sales in this area. It's not the best way to look at value, but it's educated.
I personally don't give value to lot size unless it's sub-dividable. The neighborhoods we work in are usually short term rental neighborhoods and some owners see oversized properties as an expense to upkeep.
I personally don't give value to lot size unless it's sub-dividable. The neighborhoods we work in are usually short term rental neighborhoods and some owners see oversized properties as an expense to upkeep.
AAbsolute
AAbsoluteBannedWatercolor, Watersound and 12 days a year 59th Str1,814 postsJoined View profileMessageBanned
If it's a good transaction for you I would advise to keep it to yourself. I can't ever shut my mouth and break this rule consistantly. If you want someone else to buy it just mention to a few people how happy you are with your pending transaction. This is a funny place.
I have found out what the nearby (same street) lots were listed for at the peak. Would 50% of those peak listing prices approximate today's values??? Also, the lot cannot be subdivided.
YoungFTYoungFTBeach Lover66 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Lover
Maybe 50% of peak and 4-5X what the owner paid in early 90's gets you to a more narrow range. Good luck.
cnestg8r
cnestg8rBeach Fanatic862 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Farther to the East, 1.2 acres South of 30A sold for over 8 M$ in '06. Today it can't get 5, maybe 4 M$.
A little more homework shows the lot across the street sold late 2006 for 650K, but that's about 10 times what the owner paid in 2001. Does this sound right?
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