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[SIZE=2][I]"Olsen said the company would like to include two fast-food franchises in the hotel and retail complex, [B]but the county has said such businesses would be outside the Scenic Corridor guidelines that sets standards for landscaping, architecture and signage.[/B]" :clap:
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&quot;Olsen said the company would like to include two fast-food franchises in the hotel and retail complex, but the county has said such businesses would be outside the Scenic Corridor guidelines that sets standards for landscaping, architecture and signage.&quot; :clap: 
 
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Kurt

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You missed the last line:

[quote]The company is lobbying hard to change the commissioners' mind, Rutland and Olsen said.[/quote]

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<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="">The company is lobbying hard to change the commissioners&#039; mind, Rutland and Olsen said.</blockquote>

kkddbb

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im not one to stand in the way of the free market, but i moved here ten years ago because it didnt look like pcb or destin. lets hope our commissioners stand their ground and not bow to lobbyists. fast food joints by mccall park....are you kidding me? as if we should be surprised by olsen's aggenda. money is everything to SOME developers and it certainly is the most important thing to them

im not one to stand in the way of the free market, but i moved here ten years ago because it didnt look like pcb or destin. lets hope our commissioners stand their ground and not bow to lobbyists. fast food joints by mccall park....are you kidding me? as if we should be surprised by olsen&#039;s aggenda. money is everything to SOME developers and it certainly is the most important thing to them

Beach Runner

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[quote="kkddbb, post: 578527"]im not one to stand in the way of the free market, but [B]i moved here ten years ago because it didnt look like pcb or destin. lets hope our commissioners stand their ground and not bow to lobbyists.[/B] fast food joints by mccall park....are you kidding me? as if we should be surprised by olsen's aggenda. money is everything to SOME developers and it certainly is the most important thing to them[/quote]
Exactly!

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="kkddbb">im not one to stand in the way of the free market, but i moved here ten years ago because it didnt look like pcb or destin. lets hope our commissioners stand their ground and not bow to lobbyists. fast food joints by mccall park....are you kidding me? as if we should be surprised by olsen&#039;s aggenda. money is everything to SOME developers and it certainly is the most important thing to them</blockquote>Exactly!

Smiling JOe

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kkddbb,

This part of the article says much:
[quote]
Don Rutland, president of Miramar Beach-based Rutland Co. - whose projects include The Inn at Blue Mountain Beach and the Inn at Crystal Beach - said setting a countywide height limit "sets an appropriate tone for the population that lives here and keeps us somewhat different from the rest of the state of Florida ... I believe it's a positive move for Walton County."

"As developers, we want as much density as we can get, but as residents, we're trying to keep our emotions out of it and be practical," said Matt Olsen, Rutland's executive vice president.[/quote]

The statement is about height limits, but I think that it makes it clear that it isn't ALL about money for Matt and Don. Fast food will happen in South Walton, and it will be very profitable. If McDonald's opened in a decent location, it is likely that they would have more traffic than any other restaurant in all of South Walton. Chick-f-let would be close behind it.  Doesn't mean I want them here, and doesn't mean that I will support them, but many people will and they will likely be successful and open the floodgates for others franchises to follow. We already see the Panera Bread Company at the outlet mall, along with Cheeseburger in Paradise. We will also see more of that type of business come in. One day, Hwy 98 will likely take forever to drive from one end to the other, not much different than going through PCB or Destin. Did you know that WaterSound, on the north side of 98, has a crap-load of commercial space planned? I think it is more than Destin Commons, if I correctly recall. It's coming, it's just a matter of time.

kkddbb, 
 
This part of the article says much: 
<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="">Don Rutland, president of Miramar Beach-based Rutland Co. - whose projects include The Inn at Blue Mountain Beach and the Inn at Crystal Beach - said setting a countywide height limit &quot;sets an appropriate tone for the population that lives here and keeps us somewhat different from the rest of the state of Florida ... I believe it&#039;s a positive move for Walton County.&quot; 
 
&quot;As developers, we want as much density as we can get, but as residents, we&#039;re trying to keep our emotions out of it and be practical,&quot; said Matt Olsen, Rutland&#039;s executive vice president.</blockquote> 
The statement is about height limits, but I think that it makes it clear that it isn&#039;t ALL about money for Matt and Don. Fast food will happen in South Walton, and it will be very profitable. If McDonald&#039;s opened in a decent location, it is likely that they would have more traffic than any other restaurant in all of South Walton. Chick-f-let would be close behind it. Doesn&#039;t mean I want them here, and doesn&#039;t mean that I will support them, but many people will and they will likely be successful and open the floodgates for others franchises to follow. We already see the Panera Bread Company at the outlet mall, along with Cheeseburger in Paradise. We will also see more of that type of business come in. One day, Hwy 98 will likely take forever to drive from one end to the other, not much different than going through PCB or Destin. Did you know that WaterSound, on the north side of 98, has a crap-load of commercial space planned? I think it is more than Destin Commons, if I correctly recall. It&#039;s coming, it&#039;s just a matter of time.

scooterbug44

Are there any renderings of the proposed project? And any mention of which fast-food restaurants they want to put in?

beachmouse

The fast food chain restuarants are already there right on 30-A- Subway, PJ's Coffee, Starbucks off the top of my head. And if there's a subway, I'm not sure how you can also keep out the concept of a McDonald's. 

But you can get even what are the usually gaudiest fast food restaurants to blend in. Keep the ban on new drive-throughs and make it holy and sacred. Dictate other strict architectural and landscaping guidelines and even paint colors if need be to keep out the giant plastic clowns and playscapes visible from the street. 

There are any number of big city fast food restaurants that go into odd-sized commercial spaces with architectural limits and that consequently, manage to fit in well enough to seem inobtrusive in between the bodega and the Duane Reed on either side. No reason that Walton County couldn't say that if you did want to go in, you need to come in on our strict terms.

The fast food chain restuarants are already there right on 30-A- Subway, PJ&#039;s Coffee, Starbucks off the top of my head. And if there&#039;s a subway, I&#039;m not sure how you can also keep out the concept of a McDonald&#039;s. 
 
But you can get even what are the usually gaudiest fast food restaurants to blend in. Keep the ban on new drive-throughs and make it holy and sacred. Dictate other strict architectural and landscaping guidelines and even paint colors if need be to keep out the giant plastic clowns and playscapes visible from the street. 
 
There are any number of big city fast food restaurants that go into odd-sized commercial spaces with architectural limits and that consequently, manage to fit in well enough to seem inobtrusive in between the bodega and the Duane Reed on either side. No reason that Walton County couldn&#039;t say that if you did want to go in, you need to come in on our strict terms.

[quote="kurt, post: 578509"]You missed the last line:[/quote]


Oh dang, I didn't see that!  So is it best to write letters or what to keep it the way it has been?

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<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="kurt">You missed the last line:</blockquote> 
 
Oh dang, I didn&#039;t see that! So is it best to write letters or what to keep it the way it has been? 
 
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98 will likely be more developed over the years, but we have the state forests that line the highway and thats what makes us different then destin and pcb. i for one am grateful for that and is the main reason why pt washington was my choice to live. those who support such franchises will no doubt be the cause of our demise. it cheapens the area and will destroy the architecural integrity that brought me here and what has made our community as unique as it is. its not just the beaches....

[quote="beachmouse, post: 578548"]The fast food chain restuarants are already there right on 30-A- Subway, PJ's Coffee, Starbucks off the top of my head. And if there's a subway, I'm not sure how you can also keep out the concept of a McDonald's. 

But you can get even what are the usually gaudiest fast food restaurants to blend in. Keep the ban on new drive-throughs and make it holy and sacred. Dictate other strict architectural and landscaping guidelines and even paint colors if need be to keep out the giant plastic clowns and playscapes visible from the street. 

There are any number of big city fast food restaurants that go into odd-sized commercial spaces with architectural limits and that consequently, manage to fit in well enough to seem inobtrusive in between the bodega and the Duane Reed on either side. No reason that Walton County couldn't say that if you did want to go in, you need to come in on our strict terms.[/quote]

So true. I've been in a three story McDonald's in NYC. In Asheville, NC, there is a McDonald's located at the entrance to Biltmore Estate, and the McDonalds has a different look, to fit in with the rest of Biltmore Village, AND, the servers wear tuxedos, and there is a self-playing Baby Grand piano in the restaurant. 

I've also seen a Home Depot in Wyoming or Montana, which had a green colored sign, and the building was covered in river rock, rather than the concrete block. Businesses will blend in, if they are required to, and they want to be in that market.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="beachmouse">The fast food chain restuarants are already there right on 30-A- Subway, PJ&#039;s Coffee, Starbucks off the top of my head. And if there&#039;s a subway, I&#039;m not sure how you can also keep out the concept of a McDonald&#039;s. 
 
But you can get even what are the usually gaudiest fast food restaurants to blend in. Keep the ban on new drive-throughs and make it holy and sacred. Dictate other strict architectural and landscaping guidelines and even paint colors if need be to keep out the giant plastic clowns and playscapes visible from the street. 
 
There are any number of big city fast food restaurants that go into odd-sized commercial spaces with architectural limits and that consequently, manage to fit in well enough to seem inobtrusive in between the bodega and the Duane Reed on either side. No reason that Walton County couldn&#039;t say that if you did want to go in, you need to come in on our strict terms.</blockquote> 
So true. I&#039;ve been in a three story McDonald&#039;s in NYC. In Asheville, NC, there is a McDonald&#039;s located at the entrance to Biltmore Estate, and the McDonalds has a different look, to fit in with the rest of Biltmore Village, AND, the servers wear tuxedos, and there is a self-playing Baby Grand piano in the restaurant. 
 
I&#039;ve also seen a Home Depot in Wyoming or Montana, which had a green colored sign, and the building was covered in river rock, rather than the concrete block. Businesses will blend in, if they are required to, and they want to be in that market.

[quote="kkddbb, post: 578551"]98 will likely be more developed over the years, but we have the state forests that line the highway and thats what makes us different then destin and pcb. i for one am grateful for that and is the main reason why pt washington was my choice to live. those who support such franchises will no doubt be the cause of our demise. it cheapens the area and will destroy the architecural integrity that brought me here and what has made our community as unique as it is. its not just the beaches....[/quote]

Those whom support franchises are the same people whom support us -- tourists, though locals will also frequent a place such as chic-f-let. 

We ARE fortunate that much of 98 is state land, but much is also owned by JOE and there are ample strips of privately owned. They will be built out, no question.  That in mind, building conformity codes can be established to help prevent the remainder of South Walton from looking like the area from the outlet mall to the west.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="kkddbb">98 will likely be more developed over the years, but we have the state forests that line the highway and thats what makes us different then destin and pcb. i for one am grateful for that and is the main reason why pt washington was my choice to live. those who support such franchises will no doubt be the cause of our demise. it cheapens the area and will destroy the architecural integrity that brought me here and what has made our community as unique as it is. its not just the beaches....</blockquote> 
Those whom support franchises are the same people whom support us -- tourists, though locals will also frequent a place such as chic-f-let. 
 
We ARE fortunate that much of 98 is state land, but much is also owned by JOE and there are ample strips of privately owned. They will be built out, no question. That in mind, building conformity codes can be established to help prevent the remainder of South Walton from looking like the area from the outlet mall to the west.

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Phew...for a a second after reading the title, I though I was going to see signs of giant cartoon crab and shrimp saying "To eat at this establishment, you must be this tall!"

Phew...for a a second after reading the title, I though I was going to see signs of giant cartoon crab and shrimp saying &quot;To eat at this establishment, you must be this tall!&quot;

GoodWitch58

actually they were going to say you have to be this short:lol:

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[quote="beachmouse, post: 578548"]The fast food chain restuarants are already there right on 30-A- Subway, PJ's Coffee, Starbucks off the top of my head. And if there's a subway, I'm not sure how you can also keep out the concept of a McDonald's. 

But you can get even what are the usually gaudiest fast food restaurants to blend in.[B] Keep the ban on new drive-throughs and make it holy and sacred. Dictate other strict architectural and landscaping guidelines and even paint colors if need be to keep out the giant plastic clowns and playscapes visible from the street. [/B]

There are any number of big city fast food restaurants that go into odd-sized commercial spaces with architectural limits and that consequently, manage to fit in well enough to seem inobtrusive in between the bodega and the Duane Reed on either side. No reason that Walton County couldn't say that if you did want to go in, you need to come in on our strict terms.[/quote]
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Agree.

It would seem that just banning the drive-thru would make fast food chains think long and hard about the profitability of opening on 30-A.

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<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="beachmouse">The fast food chain restuarants are already there right on 30-A- Subway, PJ&#039;s Coffee, Starbucks off the top of my head. And if there&#039;s a subway, I&#039;m not sure how you can also keep out the concept of a McDonald&#039;s. 
 
But you can get even what are the usually gaudiest fast food restaurants to blend in. Keep the ban on new drive-throughs and make it holy and sacred. Dictate other strict architectural and landscaping guidelines and even paint colors if need be to keep out the giant plastic clowns and playscapes visible from the street. 
 
There are any number of big city fast food restaurants that go into odd-sized commercial spaces with architectural limits and that consequently, manage to fit in well enough to seem inobtrusive in between the bodega and the Duane Reed on either side. No reason that Walton County couldn&#039;t say that if you did want to go in, you need to come in on our strict terms.</blockquote>. 
Agree. 
 
It would seem that just banning the drive-thru would make fast food chains think long and hard about the profitability of opening on 30-A. 
 
.

gmarc

If there is ever a fast food restraunt like mcd's on 30-a it will be a very small one as the offseason is brutal from the view pt of business. I could see one on 98 parallel to 30-a or even in the publix watercolor location but right on 30-a will be tough

If there is ever a fast food restraunt like mcd&#039;s on 30-a it will be a very small one as the offseason is brutal from the view pt of business. I could see one on 98 parallel to 30-a or even in the publix watercolor location but right on 30-a will be tough

poppy

[quote="Gidget, post: 578549"]Oh dang, I didn't see that! So is it best to write letters or what to [B]keep it the way it has been[/B]?
 
G[/quote]
 
Keep it the way it has been since when, last week, last month, last year, 5 years ago, 10, 20, 30 years ago or since you moved here? Change happens but it can be controlled.
beachmouse is right, chain stores are fine if they conform to local design and building codes.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Gidget">Oh dang, I didn&#039;t see that! So is it best to write letters or what to keep it the way it has been? 
 
G</blockquote> 
Keep it the way it has been since when, last week, last month, last year, 5 years ago, 10, 20, 30 years ago or since you moved here? Change happens but it can be controlled. 
beachmouse is right, chain stores are fine if they conform to local design and building codes.

Interesting...see last paragraphs for comments about fast food restaurants in Sowal:

[url=http://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/height-18399-county-walton.html]Walton: No projects affected by height rule | height, county, walton - News - Northwest Florida Daily News[/url]

Interesting...see last paragraphs for comments about fast food restaurants in Sowal: 
 
<a href="http://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/height-18399-county-walton.html" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">Walton: No projects affected by height rule | height, county, walton - News - Northwest Florida Daily News</a>

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