House Health Care Reform Bill Released

What is that you don't understand regarding the fact that there is NO PLAN yet, whether you're a Democrat or Republican supporter? The film clip says exactly that.
Representative Boehner is absolutely correct when he states, as he as on many occasions, that the GOP has made many suggestions for real healthcare reform, both in committee and individually. None of these suggestions, including tort reform, have been accepted by the Democratic leadership. So much for partisanship. When there is a plan actually ready to be voted on by both the House and Senate we will have something to really comment on. Until then everything any of us has to say is pure conjecture.

What is it that you don't understand regarding kkddbb's many insane claims? He states the gop has a great plan but will not say what that plan is. I agree wth you on the fact there is no final plan.

The house bill has a nice little gift in it to the trial lawyers - the anti-tort reform, tort reform research initiative. :roll:

Big Government ? Blog Archive ? Pelosi Health Care Bill Blows a Kiss to Trial Lawyers

How do Republicans see 177 U.S. death occuring daily amongst those folks without health insurance..with their response being that (1) they are first of all just against it and (2) they don't have a single thing to offer as an alternative plan?

Why do we need a government option? The summary says they will be governed by the same rules as the privates and all will be sold and regulated through the "exchanges" and the new Health Commission. Does anyone really think a government run program will be more cost effective than private enterprise? The only way the government option will be price competitive will be to subsidize it heavily at additional cost to the taxpayers or unfairly regulate the privates. Either way the consumer/taxpayer loses.

How do Republicans see 177 U.S. death occuring daily amongst those folks without health insurance..with their response being that (1) they are first of all just against it and (2) they don't have a single thing to offer as an alternative plan?

see post 25. :roll:

How do Republicans see 177 U.S. death occuring daily amongst those folks without health insurance..with their response being that (1) they are first of all just against it and (2) they don't have a single thing to offer as an alternative plan?

Who says those folks would have lived if they had insurance? Also, why don't they have insurance, and what in the Pelosi bill would address this?

While House leaders are moving toward a vote on health-care legislation by the end of the week, enough Democrats are threatening to oppose the measure over the issue of abortion to create a question about its passage.

House leaders were still negotiating Monday with the bloc of Democrats concerned about abortion provisions in the legislation, saying that they could lead to public funding of the procedure. After an evening meeting of top House Democrats, Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (Md.) said, "We are making progress," but added that they had not reached an agreement.

The federally funded abortion issue snags up the house bill -
washingtonpost.com

I agree with the moderate dems and republicans on this, just segregating funding isn't a viable option, as it's just a numbers trick. Since we have federal laws in place that restrict federal funding of abortion, any exchange plan that receives government subsidizies (probably all of them as that's all that will likely end up in the exchange), these plans should be stripped of abortion coverage all together. It's really the only way to remain within the law, unless the dems would like to go about changing the restriction laws currently in place.

How do Republicans see 177 U.S. death occuring daily amongst those folks without health insurance..with their response being that (1) they are first of all just against it and (2) they don't have a single thing to offer as an alternative plan?

It looks like a GOP plan is forthcoming at the same time as the Senate's plan. Any bets on number of pages? One item of note is that it will allow for insurance companies to deny coverage for pre-existing conditions, but set up high risk pools for those denied. From The Hill..

House Republicans are on the cusp of releasing their alternative healthcare bill, according to GOP leadership aides.
They are likely to release their bill when Democrats release the manager's amendment of their healthcare bill, according to aides familiar with the GOP strategy.

House Minority Leader John Boehner (Ohio) said on Monday that the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has had a copy of the yet-to-be-seen bill for the past few days.

Republicans will be allowed to have a substitute on the floor but they must meet certain conditions, according to Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), including that the GOP release the bill 72 hours before a possible floor vote.

Boehner told reporters he was optimistic that Republicans would have their bill ready by the time Democrats introduce their final manager?s amendment.

?Assuming that they allow 72-hours for their managers amendment, I expect we?ll have our bill out there for 72-hours as well,? Boehner said.