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Matt J avatar
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Interracial couple denied marriage license

La. justice of the peace cites concerns about any children couple might have


updated 3:41 p.m. CT, Thurs., Oct . 15, 2009

HAMMOND, La. - A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have.
Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, says it is his experience that most interracial marriages do not last long.
Neither Bardwell nor the couple immediately returned phone calls from The Associated Press. But Bardwell told the Daily Star of Hammond that he was not a racist.


Interracial couple denied marriage license - Race & ethnicity- msnbc.com

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Beanstalk avatar
Beach Lover
#27
Oh lets not leave out the PRESIDENT of our Country..... OMG.....This is almost funny, but reading between the lines here.. I understand LOL:lolabove:
AlphaCrab avatar
Beach Fanatic
#28
this story made me wonder if the judge had ever heard of a guy named tiger woods? the guy is the first billion dollar athlete, he changed the game the world over, he's undoubtedly the most responsible for golf being added back to the olympics, and will most definitely go down as the greatest golfer of all times - and he's only 33. there is a global industry that owes a debt of gratitude to this child of an interracial marriage.[/quote]


Hey, or even use our President Barack Hussein Obama as a good example-- he was born of a black father and white mother--not all examples have to be in the area of athletics.
AlphaCrab avatar
Beach Fanatic
#29
According to Confucius, "Marriage is the union (of the representatives) of two different surnames, in friendship and in love, in order to continue the posterity of the former sages, and to furnish those who shall preside at the sacrifices to heaven and earth, at those in the ancestral temple, and at those at the altars to the spirits of the land and grain.

Then Confusious would have no problem with gay marriage either, I would assume?:idontno:
mtlinscomb avatar
Beach Fanatic
#30
this story made me wonder if the judge had ever heard of a guy named tiger woods? the guy is the first billion dollar athlete, he changed the game the world over, he's undoubtedly the most responsible for golf being added back to the olympics, and will most definitely go down as the greatest golfer of all times - and he's only 33. there is a global industry that owes a debt of gratitude to this child of an interracial marriage.[/quote]


Hey, or even use our President Barack Hussein Obama as a good example-- he was born of a black father and white mother--not all examples have to be in the area of athletics.

I thought that had been covered in post #10 on this thread, but, yes, if redundancy suits you better we can add the President into the same paragraph and change some of phrases around.

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Matt J avatar
SWGBAuthor
#31
AGREED!:lolabove: where it is...but it really is not shocking.... Happens everyday even right here in good ole sowal... I wont go into that part just yet on this thread. LOL

Oh you opened the door to that one.

Please enlighten me when someone was denied a marriage license in sowal based on the fact that they were of different races?

I have serious doubt as your real intentions here, my monies on sock puppet. I can't imagine any "person of color" thinking this justice of the peace is doing anything remotely good.
organicmama avatar
Beach Fanatic
#32
My 2 cents... We're all agreeing on the same thing about the issue. We just happen to say things a bit differently.

People can just be really insensitive to downright mean, but they can also be incredibly kind and wonderful. Mostly, we've experienced the kind and wonderful but there have been other experiences, too.

The "are your kids adopted" line cracks me up. No, they are not, but I am.:biggrin:

I know when Mr. Clean and I went to get our marriage license (in another southern state &, no, it wasn't GA) we were given the once (and twice) over look by a number of people in the clerk's office.

We have had incidents here that were interesting, to say the least. The last memorable one happened at the beach access near our home. The "gentleman" (serious sarcasm here) tried to avoid looking at our family while we were showering off and he was headed to the beach. I thought he was going to break his neck turning the other way and trying to walk past us. Mr. Clean made him speak, but after that, he glared at me out of the corner of his eye. I was shocked at his treatment of us and felt that he considered us less than human, especially me. He was a local.

To put it bluntly, I don't give a flip what someone thinks about IR marriages, as long as they don't disrespect or try to do harm to our family. That's where the line is drawn.
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#33
No surprise that this picture would show up on this thread.... Good Taste Bob.
:blush:
thank you, consider that heritage not hate?
Beanstalk avatar
Beach Lover
#34
Oh you opened the door to that one.

Please enlighten me when someone was denied a marriage license in sowal based on the fact that they were of different races?

I have serious doubt as your real intentions here, my monies on sock puppet. I can't imagine any "person of color" thinking this justice of the peace is doing anything remotely good.


Sorry Gay Boy, I was not eluding to marriages in sowal, I was if you read the other posting eluding to the simple minded day to day discrimination's that happen and JUDGEMENTS passed on by others. Thank you for the PROOF of just that by your posting what YOU THINK (JUDGEMENT) are my intentions and name calling (Sock Puppet) I never agreed what the Justice stated or done was with my stamp of approval. Simply stating to the poster I was replying to that the "SHOCK" value was different from my prospective. Besides I can not see where you would know or understand what a (Person of Color) might think or not think. Only a person of color would be able to answer that and most likely everyone that was asked would have a personal opinion of their own. I tend not to follow the "Main Stream" thinking... as you have noticed and likely to find out more as time goes on.

If I recall correctly your the one who started this thread, Being that your a white male (You picture) I would stand to question with an honest query why would you begin the thread to start with. Motive? Enjoy your weekend, You might find me down on the boardwalk this weekend doing what I enjoy.... Taking pictures..... Cans of worms are yucky as my grand daughter would say. :wave:
organicmama avatar
Beach Fanatic
#35
Sorry Gay Boy, I was not eluding to marriages in sowal, I was if you read the other posting eluding to the simple minded day to day discrimination's that happen and JUDGEMENTS passed on by others. Thank you for the PROOF of just that by your posting what YOU THINK (JUDGEMENT) are my intentions and name calling (Sock Puppet) I never agreed what the Justice stated or done was with my stamp of approval. Simply stating to the poster I was replying to that the "SHOCK" value was different from my prospective. Besides I can not see where you would know or understand what a (Person of Color) might think or not think. Only a person of color would be able to answer that and most likely everyone that was asked would have a personal opinion of their own. I tend not to follow the "Main Stream" thinking... as you have noticed and likely to find out more as time goes on.

If I recall correctly your the one who started this thread, Being that your a white male (You picture) I would stand to question with an honest query why would you begin the thread to start with. Motive? Enjoy your weekend, You might find me down on the boardwalk this weekend doing what I enjoy.... Taking pictures..... Cans of worms are yucky as my grand daughter would say. :wave:

Judging SWGB from his photo is as inappropriate as anything you are accusing him of. You have no idea who he is or what his family is like. I knew his motive and understood where he was coming from on this subject.

This is about interracial marriages, so the opinion of "persons of color" aren't the only opinions that count.

That argument from any side gets under my skin more than anything else. You can't sit at your computer at type whatever you want to say under the idea that you are allowed to say it because of the color of your skin. That goes for anyone, no matter what their skin tone is. Being disrespectful is a human flaw.
Minnie avatar
Beach Fanatic
#37
Hop, said it best, "what an idiot". And truly idiots come in all sizes, shapes, forms and even colors.

But one must remember one idiot does not describe all the people from the same region, be it Louisiana or the South. To think that is well .......idiotic and stereotyping which is as bad as what this judge has done. He made a judgement that is not his to make.

Something else to consider, is when one posts on an Internet forum some people do not have the advantage of actually knowing you in person, who you really are and not your Internet persona.

So what you post to many is who you are and sadly in many cases that is not accurate but that is all they know.

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Beanstalk avatar
Beach Lover
#38
Judging SWGB from his photo is as inappropriate as anything you are accusing him of. You have no idea who he is or what his family is like. I knew his motive and understood where he was coming from on this subject.

This is about interracial marriages, so the opinion of "persons of color" aren't the only opinions that count.

That argument from any side gets under my skin more than anything else. You can't sit at your computer at type whatever you want to say under the idea that you are allowed to say it because of the color of your skin. That goes for anyone, no matter what their skin tone is. Being disrespectful is a human flaw.


Please accept my apology! I did not realize that I insulted anyone. I assumed...(We know what that means) that Mr Gay Boy was attacking my :Intentions because he questioned the PERSON of Colors perspective, and He called me a Sock Puppet... Yes I see where I went astray! Please allow this to be only viewed as a mistake on my behalf.
As for his picture... sorry on that as well. I again assumed that was him as strange as that might sound! Gosh what was I thinking! Thanks for pointing out my poor reading comprehension! :bang:
John R avatar
needs to get out more
#39
i believe he questioned a person of color's perspective. what color are you?
Beanstalk avatar
Beach Lover
#41
i believe he questioned a person of color's perspective. what color are you?

Mr. R, It appears what we have here is ones interpretations of ones comprehension of what has been the opinion of another. With that being said, You have interpreted what was written by Mr. Gay Boy as one would expect in the manner of which you comprehend his meaning of his statement. Now you might know this Mr. Gay Boy and might have read his postings in the past and could very well have a different understanding from what another such as myself might have since I do not know him, and that I have only read a few of his postings.

There is however one very clear distinction between my postings and his on this thread. I have not retorted to a level of name calling or accusations that I am the authority speaking on behalf of all people of color and neither am I considered a "Sock Puppet".

I understand how one might pass those statements coming from one of tenure on this site (Mr. Gay Boy) and how the New person here (Myself) might not be given the extension of latitude to allow for a direct opinion on ones behalf. However let me restate and place further clarity on this response to you and others, I never needed to question one opinion because of his/her color and neither have I responded with innuendo of what ones intentions are, and elude to them as being anything other but another poster stating their opinion, Not calling them names such as a "Sock Puppet". I do find with interest how others just over look these statements by Mr. Gay Boy. But I again reflect back on what I stated earlier in this post, I do not know Mr. Gay Boy and have little experience in interpreting or comprehending his statements in his postings.

I apologized for anything offensive I might have said earlier. I certainly hope those that read that would see my sincerity in it.

In the question you have directed to me Mr. R, "What Color am I? Well I have had that exact question in the past myself. I am of a darker pigmentation of my skin. In general public opinion I am often referred to as Black. However that is simply a common stereotyping that has been passed down for generations, I have had my skin color presented several years ago on a National Program that asked the very same question you asked. The results were very surprising to others as well as myself. The color spectrum analyzer that tested my skin under controlled lighting conditions pale brown.

As a color of low intensity, brown is a tertiary color in the original technical sense: a mix of the three subtractive primary colors is brown if the cyan content is low. Brown exists as a color perception only in the presence of a brighter color contrast: yellow, orange, red, or rose objects are still perceived as such if the general illumination level is low, despite reflecting the same amount of red or orange light as a brown object would in normal lighting conditions.





I hope this has answered you question and has given a proper response to your statement as well.
Beanstalk avatar
Beach Lover
#42
Update from the front line.
You can't reconstruct most pinheads but you can remove them from positions of authority.
Jindal, Mary Landrieu want official who wouldn't marry interracial couple ousted | Louisiana Politics & Government - - Louisiana Politics | State Legislature News - NOLA.com


Mr. Skunkape, That is in my opinion the correct resolve in this matter. A person of authority in a governmental position should live by the standards set forth by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights of our Great country.
After reading that I see that he has maintained the same position on inter racial marriages for the past 34 years. I might add without opposition. This brings to thought of why would such a "Racial" position stand unopposed for so long? This would be a point of another interesting thread. But the question remains, Why was this APPROVED by the constituents for so long? Did this couple know prior too going before him what his stand was on inter racial marriages? If so why would they have gone to him? The questions can flow... Thank you for posting that update.

PS I also love your screen name. Excellent! Good Day!
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#43
But one must remember one idiot does not describe all the people from the same region, be it Louisiana or the South. To think that is well .......idiotic and stereotyping which is as bad as what this judge has done. He made a judgment that is not his to make.
True, it doesn't describe everyone from a geographic area, but this guy would not have repeatedly and publicly done this if he had any fear of censure or repercussions.

He ran unopposed for years, his wife didn't have a problem with it, another nearby justice of the peace who knew of the practice (because she was referred the couples and married them) never reported him, and it took a NATIONAL media storm before any action was taken.

Update from the front line.
You can't reconstruct most pinheads but you can remove them from positions of authority.

Nice to see there will FINALLY be some review of his actions.......after several decades..................and several days of media attention. :roll:

A person of authority in a governmental position should live by the standards set forth by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights of our Great country.
After reading that I see that he has maintained the same position on inter racial marriages for the past 34 years. I might add without opposition. This brings to thought of why would such a "Racial" position stand unopposed for so long?

And that's the really sad part of this whole thing IMO.
30A Skunkape avatar
Skunky
#44
Something here smells very 2bfabianish:scratch:
Rita avatar
margarita brocolia
#45
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To kkddbb and beanstalk: .. you are = you're.
and yes, I guess I am guilty here of playing grammar police, but it is driving me crazy! (and because of that, I'm sure ya'll, y'all, all y'all, you all, will continue. :biggrin:)


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John R avatar
needs to get out more
#46
because he questioned the PERSON of Colors perspective,....
Thanks for pointing out my poor reading comprehension! :bang:

Are you the spokesperson for all those of color? Your statement above makes it appear so. Is my comprehension off? Mr. Gay questioned only you within this thread. I can't interpret it any other way.

You are now making assumptions about me and my comprehension. What I am unable to comprehend is the statement below.

With that being said, You have interpreted what was written by Mr. Gay Boy as one would expect in the manner of which you comprehend his meaning of his statement.


As a color of low intensity, brown is a tertiary color in the original technical sense: a mix of the three subtractive primary colors is brown if the cyan content is low. Brown exists as a color perception only in the presence of a brighter color contrast: yellow, orange, red, or rose objects are still perceived as such if the general illumination level is low, despite reflecting the same amount of red or orange light as a brown object would in normal lighting conditions.

Your continued use of wikipedia is interesting. I'm left wondering why a 'person of color' (I know of no black persons who refer to themselves as such) would need to refer to it when commenting on their own pigmentation.

The fabianism is quite strong here. We should be in for a fun couple of weeks.
SoWal Insider
#47
Are you the spokesperson for all those of color? Your statement above makes it appear so. Is my comprehension off? Mr. Gay questioned only you within this thread. I can't interpret it any other way.

You are now making assumptions about me and my comprehension. What I am unable to comprehend is the statement below.

Your continued use of wikipedia is interesting. I'm left wondering why a 'person of color' (I know of no black persons who refer to themselves as such) would need to refer to it when commenting on their own pigmentation.

The fabianism is quite strong here. We should be in for a fun couple of weeks.

I'm curious, what is the preferred term? Up in these parts it is African American and VERY much the "people of color" is used.


(and lord, i hope somebody doesn't get on their high horse & either red rep me or bitc*-slap me for making a inquiring post. ;-) Seriously.)
Carol G avatar
Beach Fanatic
#48
What I'd like to know is why Beanstalk repeatedly refers to SWGB as Mr. Gay Boy? Sowalgayboi changed his screen name to SWGB long before Mr. Stalk's join date of April 2009, so something is just not adding up for me. I'm thinking (and just assuming here, you know what they say...) that SWGB must have had a reason for changing his screen name, and following all other trends in this thread, would prefer to be called "Mr. SWGB" or "Mr. GB." So, what is the motivation for the salutation?

And FYI, it is allude. A-L-L-U-D-E.
Beanstalk avatar
Beach Lover
#49
I refuse to continue to repeat answering the same questions over and over Mr. John R. If you're unable to gather my interpretation and my explanations from my postings, I will say I am sorry that I failed to state with clarity so that you would be able to comprehend them.

As for why I choose to use the term "Person of Color"? as Mr. Skunkape stated it is and has been the choice of those who use it. I will state this for you once, Hopefully you can grasp this, I was born 60+ years ago here in the United States of America, So I am an American. I am of the Negro race. I am not African/American, albeit I have African in my background. I am not white, "White" is absence of color. I do have dark pigmentation of my skin. But I am NOT Black. Black is inclusive of ALL colors. Depending on the lighting and the background as I shared with you earlier, My skin is of Brown in color. So I choose to use the term "Person of Color".

I am not ashamed to be called Black or African American, Not even Negro, I am proud of who I am and my contributions to this Country, My family and hundreds if not thousands of others around the world that I have delt with in the years past.

So your continued attempts to multi question each post should now come to a rest. If need be I can and will sit and explain in person and allow you to gather your own opinion "What Color" my skin is. If that would help you come to closure on this. Certainly it has more effect on your life of what I have given it to be with mine.

I will assure of of one thing, I seriously doubt that you have ever met a Truly BLACK person meaning skin color. If you have I would hope that you could befriend that person and make the millions of dollars that would most likely be there for the ONLY true BLACK person in the world. Now lets remember what I am identifying as black, Black is ALL colors blended together, Hope this helps. Have a wonderful week ahead.

Jack
Beanstalk avatar
Beach Lover
#50
What I'd like to know is why Beanstalk repeatedly refers to SWGB as Mr. Gay Boy? Sowalgayboi changed his screen name to SWGB long before Mr. Stalk's join date of April 2009, so something is just not adding up for me. I'm thinking (and just assuming here, you know what they say...) that SWGB must have had a reason for changing his screen name, and following all other trends in this thread, would prefer to be called "Mr. SWGB" or "Mr. GB." So, what is the motivation for the salutation?

And FYI, it is allude. A-L-L-U-D-E.


The plot thickens, Water Course Way, No mystery here, In many post that I have read of Mr Gay Boy he has been replied to as Sowal Gay Boy, I have read many post from the past to present. Seems paranoia runs amuck here? If Mr. Gay Boy has issue with being noted as such I might suggest he contact me via PM or just post it here. I would hope that you would not take exception to me referring to you as Mr. WaterCourseWay or Mr. Way .. You understand where I am going with this.

Now lets make this statement here and plain for all to see. I find myself being the subject matter in this thread more so then the original posting. Please enjoy yourselves on this from now forward, I have stated what I have about the Subject matter and that's my opinions. What my skin/race or anything else has to do with this thread is oddly enough a whole different thread if one wants to start one.

I have brought to this community a vast amount of experience as well as wiliness to become supportive in the community. It is getting rather apparent that my welcome on this blog is growing thin as they say from some of the side comments of conspiracies to paranoia of who I am by my knowledge of others.

I am not a blogger and nor do I choose to make it an everyday part of my life. I have retired in this area, I own property in 3 counties here in the panhandle as well as in Alabama and Georgia. I can choose where and when I want to be at one place or the other. As well as I can choose where and when I choose to Blog. I had hoped that I could become involved in this community without any fan fare or prejudgement. This Blog seems to be very self sustaining and I being a bit independent myself feel the need to just ignore the petty emotional laden comments and move on. Not saying I will not continue to post where and when I feel I would like to share my thoughts, just that this thread has proven to become off topic in its inception. Good Day!
Douglas the Intrepid avatar
Beach Fanatic
#51
Since we are being so liberal with our use of Wikipedia today, all I have to say is my Spidey Senses do seem to detect a...



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