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I've been hearing this same ad on XM Radio, almost word for word.  I love that each time they play it the ever so wonderful line of "It's a great time to buy" plays.

I&#039;ve been hearing this same ad on XM Radio, almost word for word.  I love that each time they play it the ever so wonderful line of &quot;It&#039;s a great time to buy&quot; plays.

scooterbug44

SoWal Expert

The realtors ARE telling the truth:

It IS a good time to buy*

























*If you're a realtor getting a commission! :biggrin:

The realtors ARE telling the truth: 
 
It IS a good time to buy* 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
*If you&#039;re a realtor getting a commission! 😀

seaside2

Beach Fanatic

[quote="scooterbug44, post: 360236"]The realtors ARE telling the truth:
 
It IS a good time to buy*
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
*If you're a realtor getting a commission! :biggrin:[/quote]
 
Hail yes, it's always a good time for someone else to buy, if you are the realtor getting the check!!:floor::funn:

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="scooterbug44">The realtors ARE telling the truth: 
 
It IS a good time to buy* 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
*If you&#039;re a realtor getting a commission! 😀</blockquote> 
Hail yes, it&#039;s always a good time for someone else to buy, if you are the realtor getting the check!!:floor::funn:

sell30a

Beach Comber

Everyone who's waiting for someone to tell them the bottom has hit is a chicken.  Dont be a chicken, if its a good deal buy it!  The entire panhandle is having a 50% off sale and theres a very good possibility that if you wait 12 months you will miss this sale. 

I'll be honest The - pan handle almost broke me. I had millions in property and then the downturn hit. I sweat it out, cold called hundreds of developers accross the country peddling all my property and I managed to sell it all off.  I just recently bought a home in the area because these prices are below builder cost and you dont have to be a harvard grad to figure the economics out - that wont last forever. YEs, there will be more sold under cost, foreclosures, etc, but when those are gone, their gone.

Everyone who&#039;s waiting for someone to tell them the bottom has hit is a chicken. Dont be a chicken, if its a good deal buy it! The entire panhandle is having a 50% off sale and theres a very good possibility that if you wait 12 months you will miss this sale. 
 
I&#039;ll be honest The - pan handle almost broke me. I had millions in property and then the downturn hit. I sweat it out, cold called hundreds of developers accross the country peddling all my property and I managed to sell it all off. I just recently bought a home in the area because these prices are below builder cost and you dont have to be a harvard grad to figure the economics out - that wont last forever. YEs, there will be more sold under cost, foreclosures, etc, but when those are gone, their gone.

The funny thing is that everyone seems to assume that once the slump is over we'll suddenly be back in the 04-05 market of rediculous highs.  Even if you don't buy right now, I believe it will be quite some time before you see any record breaking.

The funny thing is that everyone seems to assume that once the slump is over we&#039;ll suddenly be back in the 04-05 market of rediculous highs.  Even if you don&#039;t buy right now, I believe it will be quite some time before you see any record breaking.

SHELLY

SoWal Insider

Now is the best time to buy Elk too:  [url]http://www.wapiti.net/news/bestTimeToBuy.cfm[/url]

    A fine heifer bred to Korean Gold for $3,100. A daughter of Dakota Pride bred to King for $3,700. These are just 2 of the incredible deals at the Kansas 2000 Select Elk Auction that left consignors feeling dismayed and buyers feeling giddy with joy.

    What's going on here? Was this a fluke? Is it time to panic? Or is it time to get out the checkbook and make some quick deals?

    The elk markets fluctuate just like all other markets do. As your stockbroker will tell you, "The wise investor is the one that buys low and sells high." The only reason NOT to buy animals right now is if you are afraid that their value will never rise again. But elk are NOT emu. There is real demand for multiple elk products. 

 The recent article by Bob Johnson titled Fluctuating Velvet Prices tracked the price of velvet back to 1970 and clearly demonstrated that velvet prices rise and fall. Remember that velvet has been in demand for centuries. It is not a fad on the wane; the price is simply reacting to the poor Asian economy. Knowing that velvet prices last year were very low, it follows logically that breeding stock prices would show softness as some folks hit the panic button and others fear to purchase. All indicators are that velvet prices will make a decent comeback this summer. When they do, breeders will consider their stock to be much more valuable than they currently do.


The elk industry is poised on the brink of incredible growth.

    The velvet "crash" last year has actually been a very positive force for our industry long term as it has prompted the creation of new domestic marketing efforts that will bear fruit in the next few years. A small handful of velvet processors has grown to a fistful and cottage vendors are springing up all over. A new documentary about elk farming is being aired on television. Now available in bookstores is a new book that explains in very simple and understandable words WHY velvet works.

    The other elk markets are also benefiting from the wakeup call generated by last year's low velvet prices. Trophy bulls have been selling well as demand from hunting reserves continues to grow. The meat market is being tested. Its maturing can only help to further stabilize prices in all markets. Implementation of the Elk Quality Assurance Plan, scheduled for February, establishes the standard of "quality" and moves the industry closer to legitimacy in the eyes of the consumer as it ensures product safety. It signals the maturing of the industry.

    There really has never been a better time to buy! Don't wait until next year - unless you want to buy high. 


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(I think Yun also shills for the Elk Association in his spare time.  He just replaces the word "elk" with "real estate" and the word "velvet" with "Florida".)
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Now is the best time to buy Elk too: <a href="http://www.wapiti.net/news/bestTimeToBuy.cfm" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://www.wapiti.net/news/bestTimeToBuy.cfm</a> 
 
 A fine heifer bred to Korean Gold for $3,100. A daughter of Dakota Pride bred to King for $3,700. These are just 2 of the incredible deals at the Kansas 2000 Select Elk Auction that left consignors feeling dismayed and buyers feeling giddy with joy. 
 
 What&#039;s going on here? Was this a fluke? Is it time to panic? Or is it time to get out the checkbook and make some quick deals? 
 
 The elk markets fluctuate just like all other markets do. As your stockbroker will tell you, &quot;The wise investor is the one that buys low and sells high.&quot; The only reason NOT to buy animals right now is if you are afraid that their value will never rise again. But elk are NOT emu. There is real demand for multiple elk products. 
 
 The recent article by Bob Johnson titled Fluctuating Velvet Prices tracked the price of velvet back to 1970 and clearly demonstrated that velvet prices rise and fall. Remember that velvet has been in demand for centuries. It is not a fad on the wane; the price is simply reacting to the poor Asian economy. Knowing that velvet prices last year were very low, it follows logically that breeding stock prices would show softness as some folks hit the panic button and others fear to purchase. All indicators are that velvet prices will make a decent comeback this summer. When they do, breeders will consider their stock to be much more valuable than they currently do. 
 
 
The elk industry is poised on the brink of incredible growth. 
 
 The velvet &quot;crash&quot; last year has actually been a very positive force for our industry long term as it has prompted the creation of new domestic marketing efforts that will bear fruit in the next few years. A small handful of velvet processors has grown to a fistful and cottage vendors are springing up all over. A new documentary about elk farming is being aired on television. Now available in bookstores is a new book that explains in very simple and understandable words WHY velvet works. 
 
 The other elk markets are also benefiting from the wakeup call generated by last year&#039;s low velvet prices. Trophy bulls have been selling well as demand from hunting reserves continues to grow. The meat market is being tested. Its maturing can only help to further stabilize prices in all markets. Implementation of the Elk Quality Assurance Plan, scheduled for February, establishes the standard of &quot;quality&quot; and moves the industry closer to legitimacy in the eyes of the consumer as it ensures product safety. It signals the maturing of the industry. 
 
 There really has never been a better time to buy! Don&#039;t wait until next year - unless you want to buy high. 
 
 
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(I think Yun also shills for the Elk Association in his spare time. He just replaces the word &quot;elk&quot; with &quot;real estate&quot; and the word &quot;velvet&quot; with &quot;Florida&quot;.) 
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Holy crap!

Once the banner flashed the "semen for sale" I :leaving:

I like my Elk to be free range in the Rockies, then harvested by Papa Scooterbug!

Holy crap! 
 
Once the banner flashed the &quot;semen for sale&quot; I :leaving: 
 
I like my Elk to be free range in the Rockies, then harvested by Papa Scooterbug!

[quote="scooterbug44, post: 360297"]Holy crap!
 
Once the banner flashed the "[B]semen for sale[/B]" I :leaving:
 
I like my Elk to be free range in the Rockies, then harvested by Papa Scooterbug![/quote]
 
It's a great time to buy!  :funn:

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="scooterbug44">Holy crap! 
 
Once the banner flashed the &quot;semen for sale&quot; I :leaving: 
 
I like my Elk to be free range in the Rockies, then harvested by Papa Scooterbug!</blockquote> 
It&#039;s a great time to buy! :funn:

Ohio Girl

Beach Lover

[quote="sowalgayboi, post: 360288"]The funny thing is that everyone seems to assume that once the slump is over we'll suddenly be back in the 04-05 market of rediculous highs.  Even if you don't buy right now, I believe it will be quite some time before you see any record breaking.[/QUOTE]


very good point.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="sowalgayboi">The funny thing is that everyone seems to assume that once the slump is over we&#039;ll suddenly be back in the 04-05 market of rediculous highs. Even if you don&#039;t buy right now, I believe it will be quite some time before you see any record breaking.</blockquote> 
 
very good point.

It's a great time to buy in Canada!!

[url]http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=d905a8a1-8ec9-4f83-a109-90258db991e1[/url]

EDMONTON - Don Campbell couldn't believe a recent scene among wannabe real estate investors at the corner of Yonge and Bloor streets in Toronto, site of a planned condominium complex.

"People slept there overnight for four nights," said Campbell, president of the Calgary-based Real Estate Investment Network and author of 51 Success Stories from Canadian Real Estate Investors. "A sign up above read '$500,000 to $1.3 million,' although you could go across the street and buy something very similar for $425,000. Then the developer had the gall to paste a six over the five to make it '$600,000 to $1.3 million,' and the crowd cheered, saying 'Look, it's going up.' There was even a fight in the line.

"When you line up around a block with 200 people to buy the condo in the sky that doesn't exist yet, put $20,000 down and plan to sell it as soon as it's built, look in the lineup and tell me how many people have the exact same mentality. Then all you need is for one guy to panic and drop his price to get out, and the average price in the whole building goes down, and you're completely at the whim of somebody else. You should only line up for U2 tickets."

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We all know how this story is gonna end :cool:

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It&#039;s a great time to buy in Canada!! 
 
<a href="http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=d905a8a1-8ec9-4f83-a109-90258db991e1" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=d905a8a1-8ec9-4f83-a109-90258db991e1</a> 
 
EDMONTON - Don Campbell couldn&#039;t believe a recent scene among wannabe real estate investors at the corner of Yonge and Bloor streets in Toronto, site of a planned condominium complex. 
 
&quot;People slept there overnight for four nights,&quot; said Campbell, president of the Calgary-based Real Estate Investment Network and author of 51 Success Stories from Canadian Real Estate Investors. &quot;A sign up above read &#039;$500,000 to $1.3 million,&#039; although you could go across the street and buy something very similar for $425,000. Then the developer had the gall to paste a six over the five to make it &#039;$600,000 to $1.3 million,&#039; and the crowd cheered, saying &#039;Look, it&#039;s going up.&#039; There was even a fight in the line. 
 
&quot;When you line up around a block with 200 people to buy the condo in the sky that doesn&#039;t exist yet, put $20,000 down and plan to sell it as soon as it&#039;s built, look in the lineup and tell me how many people have the exact same mentality. Then all you need is for one guy to panic and drop his price to get out, and the average price in the whole building goes down, and you&#039;re completely at the whim of somebody else. You should only line up for U2 tickets.&quot; 
 
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We all know how this story is gonna end :cool: 
 
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ktschris

[quote="SHELLY, post: 360327"]It's a great time to buy in Canada!!

[URL]http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=d905a8a1-8ec9-4f83-a109-90258db991e1[/URL]

EDMONTON - Don Campbell couldn't believe a recent scene among wannabe real estate investors at the corner of Yonge and Bloor streets in Toronto, site of a planned condominium complex.

"People slept there overnight for four nights," said Campbell, president of the Calgary-based Real Estate Investment Network and author of 51 Success Stories from Canadian Real Estate Investors. "A sign up above read '$500,000 to $1.3 million,' although you could go across the street and buy something very similar for $425,000. Then the developer had the gall to paste a six over the five to make it '$600,000 to $1.3 million,' and the crowd cheered, saying 'Look, it's going up.' There was even a fight in the line.

"When you line up around a block with 200 people to buy the condo in the sky that doesn't exist yet, put $20,000 down and plan to sell it as soon as it's built, look in the lineup and tell me how many people have the exact same mentality. Then all you need is for one guy to panic and drop his price to get out, and the average price in the whole building goes down, and you're completely at the whim of somebody else. [B]You should only line up for U2 tickets.[/B]"

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We all know how this story is gonna end :cool:

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:cool: Good advise

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="SHELLY">It&#039;s a great time to buy in Canada!! 
 
<a href="http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=d905a8a1-8ec9-4f83-a109-90258db991e1" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=d905a8a1-8ec9-4f83-a109-90258db991e1</a> 
 
EDMONTON - Don Campbell couldn&#039;t believe a recent scene among wannabe real estate investors at the corner of Yonge and Bloor streets in Toronto, site of a planned condominium complex. 
 
&quot;People slept there overnight for four nights,&quot; said Campbell, president of the Calgary-based Real Estate Investment Network and author of 51 Success Stories from Canadian Real Estate Investors. &quot;A sign up above read &#039;$500,000 to $1.3 million,&#039; although you could go across the street and buy something very similar for $425,000. Then the developer had the gall to paste a six over the five to make it &#039;$600,000 to $1.3 million,&#039; and the crowd cheered, saying &#039;Look, it&#039;s going up.&#039; There was even a fight in the line. 
 
&quot;When you line up around a block with 200 people to buy the condo in the sky that doesn&#039;t exist yet, put $20,000 down and plan to sell it as soon as it&#039;s built, look in the lineup and tell me how many people have the exact same mentality. Then all you need is for one guy to panic and drop his price to get out, and the average price in the whole building goes down, and you&#039;re completely at the whim of somebody else. You should only line up for U2 tickets.&quot; 
 
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We all know how this story is gonna end :cool: 
 
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.</blockquote> 
:cool: Good advise

[quote="ktschris, post: 360337"]:cool: Good advise[/QUOTE]

Yeah, even moreso considering it's coming from the author of "[I]51 Success Stories from Canadian Real Estate Investors."[/I]

If you'll excuse me, I've got an appointment with an Elk Salesman.


[img]http://www.elkusa.com/graphics/gotelkcircle2.gif[/img]




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<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="ktschris">:cool: Good advise</blockquote> 
Yeah, even moreso considering it&#039;s coming from the author of &quot;51 Success Stories from Canadian Real Estate Investors.&quot; 
 
If you&#039;ll excuse me, I&#039;ve got an appointment with an Elk Salesman. 
 
 
<img src="http://www.elkusa.com/graphics/gotelkcircle2.gif" alt="" /> 
 
 
 
 
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I have a question for Shelly et al:

When is a good time to buy here?

I don't mean- predict a date/time. I mean- what universes need to be lined up for you to personally think it really is a good time to buy?

What would make you stop ribbing the agents for saying it is a great time to buy and actually utter this phrase as well?

Pls turn sarcasm and negativity off before you post...

Thanks.

GW

I have a question for Shelly et al: 
 
When is a good time to buy here? 
 
I don&#039;t mean- predict a date/time. I mean- what universes need to be lined up for you to personally think it really is a good time to buy? 
 
What would make you stop ribbing the agents for saying it is a great time to buy and actually utter this phrase as well? 
 
Pls turn sarcasm and negativity off before you post... 
 
Thanks. 
 
GW

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beachmouse

When monthly mortgage costs for a non-exotic loan are within 25% of what it would cost to rent a similar property.

[quote="beachmouse, post: 360916"]When monthly mortgage costs for a non-exotic loan are within 25% of what it would cost to rent a similar property.[/QUOTE]

My interpretation of this is-

It is a good time to buy when the sales price isn't much more than what it would cost to rent...

or in other words-

When the price is right...

Is that what I am hearing?

This makes a lot of sense to me if I am in the market to purchase rental property in the area. But what if I am looking for a primary residence in SoWal? Would you not agree that there *could* be an excellent buying opportunity irrespective of rental price to sales price ratio?

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="beachmouse">When monthly mortgage costs for a non-exotic loan are within 25% of what it would cost to rent a similar property.</blockquote> 
My interpretation of this is- 
 
It is a good time to buy when the sales price isn&#039;t much more than what it would cost to rent... 
 
or in other words- 
 
When the price is right... 
 
Is that what I am hearing? 
 
This makes a lot of sense to me if I am in the market to purchase rental property in the area. But what if I am looking for a primary residence in SoWal? Would you not agree that there *could* be an excellent buying opportunity irrespective of rental price to sales price ratio?

Joefromseagrove

Geowickey,
On another thread I presented some very discouraging news about the market as a whole in Sowal. I have disagreements with the "It's a great time to buy" slogan that NAR continues to spend my dues on. I know it is designed to help those sitting on the fence make a move. I meet people all the time that are looking for the bottom. If you remember what real estate was about before the flip fest such aswhen you bought your first home, you probably thought of purchasing your home as an investment in your life and not so much a move to improve your bottom line. I am a firm believer that you shouldn't put your life on hold over this stuff. If you are like most of the people I meet, you probably purchased/moved here because you had had enough of the daily grind and were going to enjoy your time on earth here and NOW, and you were willing to live your life by your own rules. Make sure you are aware of the market that your entering but understand that this market will correct when people see their investment as an investment in their life or their family's life and not so much as a bottom line move. People need to stop looking at others and outside data for answers and ask themselves, "Is this the right thing for me at this time?"

Geowickey, 
On another thread I presented some very discouraging news about the market as a whole in Sowal. I have disagreements with the &quot;It&#039;s a great time to buy&quot; slogan that NAR continues to spend my dues on. I know it is designed to help those sitting on the fence make a move. I meet people all the time that are looking for the bottom. If you remember what real estate was about before the flip fest such aswhen you bought your first home, you probably thought of purchasing your home as an investment in your life and not so much a move to improve your bottom line. I am a firm believer that you shouldn&#039;t put your life on hold over this stuff. If you are like most of the people I meet, you probably purchased/moved here because you had had enough of the daily grind and were going to enjoy your time on earth here and NOW, and you were willing to live your life by your own rules. Make sure you are aware of the market that your entering but understand that this market will correct when people see their investment as an investment in their life or their family&#039;s life and not so much as a bottom line move. People need to stop looking at others and outside data for answers and ask themselves, &quot;Is this the right thing for me at this time?&quot;

Stumbled across this site.  

[url]http://media.floridarealtors.org/greattimetobuy/SuccessStrategies/Mar-article-1.asp[/url]

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