I came across something today that happened in August 2006 and it relates to a comment Jimmy Carter made regarding Obama.
In an interview with Jim Lehrer, Jimmy referred to Obama as "this black boy...". Why was there not furor beyond belief on the left when one of their own made such a clearly racist remark about Obama? Joe Wilson simply said "you lie" and he was immediately called a racist. The racist trump card on Joes comment was pulled by none other than Jimmy Carter himself. If you want to compare the two remarks as to which had a more racist undertone, it would definitely be Jimmy's remark.
Bottom line, if a liberal makes a comment like the one Carter made, they get a free pass. Yet, it seems that any time a conservative makes a negative comment about Obama or his policies (ie:healthcare), the race card gets played.
My guess is neither Jimmy or Joe are racist, but only they and their Maker knows for sure. What I do know is that the left (and that includes you Bob on the far left) overuses the term time and time again on conservatives that oppose their policies. It's disgusting and cowardly when you must play the race card because you don't have the ability to make a compelling argument to support your position.
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After reading through this thread it is obvious that some do not want to address the point so they make wild accusations and divert attention.
Jimmy Carter is no racist. He stood tall in Georgia against the old guard segregationists like Maddox. By most accounts he was a good governor. I supported him for President in 1976 because of his record as governor. He is the only Democrat to date I have ever supported for President and as I was too young to vote in 1976, I have never voted for one.
He was a terrible President, in over his head. He left 20% interest rates, 14% inflation and hostages in Iran. Reagan fixed the problems at a high cost-runaway deficits.
I believe the point Fisher was trying to make is that had a Conservative with the same impeccable record as Mr. Carter made the same reference-calling a Black man a "black boy" that conservative would have been castigated by the media regardless of the years of service or the clean record. I think Fisher has a valid point.
Good people can make slips and mistakes. Cater made one and got a pass as he deserved. Hopefully we can come to a place one day where a good man who is a conservative can get the same treatment.
Amen. and thanks.
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I will choose not to spend precious time arguing, bickering over petty sh** like this. fisher, go have a drink and relax. Go out and do something funn. Not sure where you live but if it is in SoWal get out from behind that computer and go enjoy what God gave you. Life is is too short to waste time FINDING things to ARGUE about. Geez. Seriously. Geez.
KD--thanks for the advice. BUT, life is actually really good for me. I use the net from time to time for entertainment. This is no different. I like the occasional debate on this forum. I take everything said on these forums with a grain of salt and hold no grudges against anyone. I get a chuckle everytime I sit down and read some of the posts.
As for relaxing and doing something funn, if you will look at my user data, I average roughly one post every two days. So, I'm not really spending that much time on this site. I have too many other great outside interests to spend too much time on the internet.
On the other hand, it appears that you average about 8 or so posts per day. So why are you saying I should get out from behind the computer and have some funn???
I don't want to offend anyone else that really likes to sit on this forum and chat a bunch. To each his own and I'm glad you enjoy it. But, to KD I just needed to say that I do not spend my life behind the computer. To the contrary, I spend most of my life when not working in the great outdoors with friends and family.
Have a nice day.
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KD--thanks for the advice. BUT, life is actually really good for me. I use the net from time to time for entertainment. This is no different. I like the occasional debate on this forum. I take everything said on these forums with a grain of salt and hold no grudges against anyone. I get a chuckle everytime I sit down and read some of the posts.KD, you've been told to have a nice day. use the dead bolt tonight.
As for relaxing and doing something funn, if you will look at my user data, I average roughly one post every two days. So, I'm not really spending that much time on this site. I have too many other great outside interests to spend too much time on the internet.
On the other hand, it appears that you average about 8 or so posts per day. So why are you saying I should get out from behind the computer and have some funn???
I don't want to offend anyone else that really likes to sit on this forum and chat a bunch. To each his own and I'm glad you enjoy it. But, to KD I just needed to say that I do not spend my life behind the computer. To the contrary, I spend most of my life when not working in the great outdoors with friends and family.
Have a nice day.
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KD, you've been told to have a nice day. use the dead bolt tonight.

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KD, you've been told to have a nice day. use the dead bolt tonight.
Bob you are slipping.
I'll help you end your sentence properly--
"use the dead bolt tonight"... to ensure the redneck, racist, _____head, ____bag, wackjob, bogeyman, jerk stays out.
Ee, i, ee, i, o.

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KD, you've been told to have a nice day. use the dead bolt tonight.
A new low:nono1:
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A new low:nono1:
It's okay. Doesn't bother me.
Bob, LucySam and now EDboy, remind me a lot of the bullies in the school yard. Name calling, trying to intimidate, etc in an effort to make themselves look big by attempting to hurt others or make them look small.
I work and play with a lot of liberals and we have some spirited discussions about many of the subjects bantered about on this forum. None of them use name calling or hateful comments to try to make their points or put down conservatives.
Fortunately, most of us have grown up and left the school yard.
Apparently, these three have not.
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I work and play with a lot of liberals and we have some spirited discussions about many of the subjects bantered about on this forum. None of them use name calling or hateful comments to try to make their points or put down conservatives.
That's great to hear. That's how progress will be made.
Have you ever read a post and not looked at who wrote it and guessed if it was a "liberal" poster or "conservative" poster. VERY RARE to find an exception - a poster finding a new way of looking at something - among most.
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After reading through this thread it is obvious that some do not want to address the point so they make wild accusations and divert attention.
Jimmy Carter is no racist. He stood tall in Georgia against the old guard segregationists like Maddox. By most accounts he was a good governor. I supported him for President in 1976 because of his record as governor. He is the only Democrat to date I have ever supported for President and as I was too young to vote in 1976, I have never voted for one.
He was a terrible President, in over his head. He left 20% interest rates, 14% inflation and hostages in Iran. Reagan fixed the problems at a high cost-runaway deficits.
I believe the point Fisher was trying to make is that had a Conservative with the same impeccable record as Mr. Carter made the same reference-calling a Black man a "black boy" that conservative would have been castigated by the media regardless of the years of service or the clean record. I think Fisher has a valid point.
Good people can make slips and mistakes. Cater made one and got a pass as he deserved. Hopefully we can come to a place one day where a good man who is a conservative can get the same treatment.
Carter used the term "black boy" in the correct context so his statement was not a slip or mistake making the example a poor one. Find an example of a conservative with the same impeccable record making a similar statement being castigated by the media and Fisher's point will be made.
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It's okay. Doesn't bother me.
Bob, LucySam and now EDboy, remind me a lot of the bullies in the school yard. Name calling, trying to intimidate, etc in an effort to make themselves look big by attempting to hurt others or make them look small.
I work and play with a lot of liberals and we have some spirited discussions about many of the subjects bantered about on this forum. None of them use name calling or hateful comments to try to make their points or put down conservatives.
Fortunately, most of us have grown up and left the school yard.
Apparently, these three have not.
respect is earned, especially when you post garbage masquerading as serious discussion. your schoolyard analogy is equally namecalling. call a knucklehead a knucklehead, ok knucklehead? you are not a conservative, just a southern democrat turned repub after the civil rights bill was passed. now go troll the real estate threads with your backwater negativity. please insert laughing emoticons .
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Bob you are slipping.no problem, there you go, and have a nice day!
I'll help you end your sentence properly--
"use the dead bolt tonight"... to ensure the redneck, racist, _____head, ____bag, wackjob, bogeyman, jerk stays out.
Ee, i, ee, i, o.
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no problem, there you go, and have a nice day!
you people are still defending the anti semite, hamas jimmy. the original point in this thread is accurate regardless the context. case and point, vp biden and his statement about obama being the first clean, articulate black man. the left and the media didn't give a d@mn. had wilson called obama the same he would have been hung by the left and demanded to leave the planet. realize the hypocrisy or find a sand box to shove your heads back in
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you people are still defending the anti semite, hamas jimmy. the original point in this thread is accurate regardless the context. case and point, vp biden and his statement about obama being the first clean, articulate black man. the left and the media didn't give a d@mn. had wilson called obama the same he would have been hung by the left and demanded to leave the planet. realize the hypocrisy or find a sand box to shove your heads back in
You people?--sounds kinda of like "that ONE."....
Any-who (thats mid west speak, btw)I kind of do think Joe Wilson is a jerk, but as far as that haughty rag tag group of Senators and Congressman assembled there during president Obama's, who new exactly WHICH politician Wilson was talking to when he yelled out "You Lie!" I figure the whole lot of them's bums twitched just a bit when that got shouted out.
I am just saying...
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Carter used the term "black boy" in the correct context so his statement was not a slip or mistake making the example a poor one. Find an example of a conservative with the same impeccable record making a similar statement being castigated by the media and Fisher's point will be made.
Can you say Joe Wilson? Even Obama gave him a pass, but the rest of the left won't let it go. Hence, the purpose of the thread.
Also, can you say TRENT LOTT--
??? Once again, given a pass by several big name libs but not by the media or many, many other prominent politicians and activists.Just two easy examples.
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Can you say Joe Wilson? Even Obama gave him a pass, but the rest of the left won't let it go. Hence, the purpose of the thread.
Also, can you say TRENT LOTT--??? Once again, given a pass by several big name libs but not by the media or many, many other prominent politicians and activists.
Just two easy examples.
Starting this thread tells us you can't let it go. Thanks for bringing up Trent Lott, another poor example to make your point Fisher-
"I want to say this about my state: When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either," Trent Lott
"All the laws of Washington and all the bayonets of the Army cannot force the Negro into our homes, our schools, our churches." Strom Thurmond during his campaign for POTUS
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Starting this thread tells us you can't let it go. Thanks for bringing up Trent Lott, another poor example to make your point Fisher-
"I want to say this about my state: When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either," Trent Lott
"All the laws of Washington and all the bayonets of the Army cannot force the Negro into our homes, our schools, our churches." Strom Thurmond during his campaign for POTUS
Lott is a perfect example.
You are trying to connect two dots that do not connect. Lott was maybe 6 or 7 years old when Thurmond made that disgusting statement. It's a perfect example of how far the left will go to discredit a conservative to say a statement made by an idiot 50 plus years ago when Lott was a child can be connected to the going away comments by Lott. Gore, Daschle and many other of your favorite libs agree with me.
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SoWal Insider
Lott is a perfect example.
You are trying to connect two dots that do not connect. Lott was maybe 6 or 7 years old when Thurmond made that disgusting statement. It's a perfect example of how far the left will go to discredit a conservative to say a statement made by an idiot 50 plus years ago when Lott was a child can be connected to the going away comments by Lott. Gore, Daschle and many other of your favorite libs agree with me.
[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trent_Lott]Trent Lott - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] House of Representatives
Lott was raised as a Democrat. He served as administrative assistant to House Rules Committee chairman William M. Colmer, also of Pascagoula, from 1968 to 1972.
In 1972, Colmer, one of the most conservative Democrats in the House, announced his retirement after 40 years in Congress. He endorsed Lott as his successor in Mississippi's 5th District, located in the state's southwestern tip, even though Lott ran as a Republican. Lott won handily.
Lott's party switch was part of a growing trend in the South. During the 1960s, cracks had begun to appear in the Democrats' "Solid South", as many whites, motivated in part by the national Democratic Party's stance on African American civil rights, began to switch parties. For example, 1964 Republican nominee Barry Goldwater carried Mississippi by winning an unheard-of 87 percent of the popular vote even as he was routed nationally......fischer, all closet racist should know their history...the majority of poor uneducated whites in the south were democrats until the federal government decided to defend the rights of blacks......then, late one night....bingo!!!! racist republicans!!!! yehaw !!!!
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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoIebIKNS4s"]YouTube - Oh Death[/ame] mississippi burning from "o republican where art thou"
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Trent Lott - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia House of Representatives
Lott was raised as a Democrat. He served as administrative assistant to House Rules Committee chairman William M. Colmer, also of Pascagoula, from 1968 to 1972.
In 1972, Colmer, one of the most conservative Democrats in the House, announced his retirement after 40 years in Congress. He endorsed Lott as his successor in Mississippi's 5th District, located in the state's southwestern tip, even though Lott ran as a Republican. Lott won handily.
Lott's party switch was part of a growing trend in the South. During the 1960s, cracks had begun to appear in the Democrats' "Solid South", as many whites, motivated in part by the national Democratic Party's stance on African American civil rights, began to switch parties. For example, 1964 Republican nominee Barry Goldwater carried Mississippi by winning an unheard-of 87 percent of the popular vote even as he was routed nationally......fischer, all closet racist should know their history...the majority of poor uneducated whites in the south were democrats until the federal government decided to defend the rights of blacks......then, late one night....bingo!!!! racist republicans!!!! yehaw !!!!
Ee, i, ee, i, o.
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Lott is a perfect example.
You are trying to connect two dots that do not connect. Lott was maybe 6 or 7 years old when Thurmond made that disgusting statement. It's a perfect example of how far the left will go to discredit a conservative to say a statement made by an idiot 50 plus years ago when Lott was a child can be connected to the going away comments by Lott. Gore, Daschle and many other of your favorite libs agree with me.
And how old was he when he gave that disgusting farewell speech?
See post number one to see how far the right will go.
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And how old was he when he gave that disgusting farewell speech?
See post number one to see how far the right will go.
Old enough to not have a clue what Strom Thurmond said 50 years before.

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Ee, i, ee, i, o.democrat became republican howdee do!
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democrat became republican howdee do!
Smart guy. ;-)
SoWal Insider
Smart guy. ;-)that civil rights act must have been socialism
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There are ample examples of politicians changing party affiliations during the civil rights movement, in hopes of staying in office. Politicians go where they think they can win the vote of the majority.
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