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Local Credit Card Scam

Beaudroix avatar
Beach Lover
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FYI - I have had three friends call today warning about a local credit card scam happening this week. Rumor has it the common denominator is at the Watercolor Publix but my friend had this happen yesterday at Publix in Destin. Amounts have ranged from $275 to $500. When they checked their accounts it showed these charges were going to a Walmart in South Florida...

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AirRocker avatar
Beach Lover
#27
Sometimes I can be so dense. How could they get your numbers if the card was in your possession?

Funny story about Applebee's. I know that you must have a great sense of satisfaction by getting revenge!

I have no idea how they got the numbers. Maybe a bad apple in the accounting department at one of the stores I shopped at that could see the credit card records? Maybe a server at a restaurant took a photo of it or wrote them down when they went off to run my card? Maybe someone at a credit card processing company that is used by an establishment I patronized in SoWal? No telling.

It did feel good to get a bit of revenge. :)
dunelover avatar
Beach Fanatic
#28
What did local authorities suggest you do to protect yourself other than keep an eye on your statements? Any updates?
Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#29
I was in SoWal for the month of February and got back to Dallas on the 4th of March. Not sure if there is a connection, but my credit card was compromised at some time and used on March 10th. My cc company was quick to alert me even though it was only a charge of $8.25. New card has arrived.
jack fish avatar
Beach Comber
#30
credit card scam

seems like there would be more attention to this matter. we had our cards scammed today and when we called the bank they said we were the 14th caller of the day. their advice to us was to use checks and cash. this seems like a newsworthy happening here in sowal. seems a network of people are hacking into the wifi at publix, gas stations, and elsewhere, stealing our credit card info. be aware. this is a reality.
Akarin avatar
Beach Lover
#31
Thanks for the alert! Too bad it's happening here in paradise :(

It's rampant in South Florida and it seems to have moved up here because too many people have caught on down there. Chances are that the stolen cards are coming from "skimmers" when you use your card at an ATM or gas pump. I do the following to protect myself:
  1. Use those devices in well trafficked areas. Skimmers are harder to install under the watchful eyes of a store clerk or at a busy intersection.
  2. If something looks weird on the ATM like a new sign or additional mirror, go somewhere else because a camera may be present to steal your PIN.
  3. If buttons are hard to push, there may be a keypad overlay stealing your PIN instead of a hidden cameras
  4. If the credit card slot is a manual slider instead of one that sucks in the whole card (although these can be skimmed too), look at the receiver part to see if it looks out of place, too bulky, or loose if you can wiggle it. If so then go somewhere else. There could be a skimmer installed over the bank's card reader which stores your card info on it's way in to the bank's reader... which is how they get the name "skimmer"

If they are getting on to an unlocked wifi in Publix, then they are getting the cards from the Publix computers/registers and not directly from you so there really isn't anything you can do about it except call your bank's fraud department (this scenario was a big true story in South Florida).

Can computer hackers get your credit card info from your computer... yes if you store it on there which you should not do anyways or by a virus which is whole other discussion. But personal one on one attacks are rare because the risk vs reward isn't great enough. If hackers have the know how to steal cards, then they do it in mass batches over computer networks and rob databases. This requires a lot of skill. On the flip side, skimmers are a relatively low tech/high reward device which does not require a lot of skill.

I hope this info helps someone!
Jdarg avatar
SoWal Expert
#33
Apparently this is happening all over the country, according the national news. Anyone can go online and purchase these card scanners. The scammer pops the card reader out of the gas pump and pops in the purchased scanner, unbeknownst to the customer- they look the same. The news story suggested wiggling the card scanner on the pump- if it seems too wiggly or loose, don't use it. Of course they said the best thing to do is go inside to pay with card or cash- don't pay at the pump.
NotDeadYet avatar
Beach Fanatic
#34
Did you watch the video, jdarg? You don't even need to use your card to get the info from it hacked.
The more I think about this, the more pissed off I get. I'm sure our sheriff has better things to do with his time these days, and the folks ripped off likewise.
What, swiping the card was too much trouble, now you can just wave it to make a purchase? I'm thinking the banks thought this would increase credit card purchases, thereby increasing their profits, and now they are defending an obviously flawed technology.
If the rfid reader is how these scams are being done here, you can see why the Seaside marathon was such an attractive place to use it, all those people close together. Same thing with the Thumb and the Publix, two places where it's easy to get close to people walking around with all those cards in their wallets. Why bother changing out the scanner on the pump when all you have to do is walk around waving your rfid defice at people?
Grrr.
AirRocker avatar
Beach Lover
#35
My card (which was stolen locally) did not have an RFID chip.
NotDeadYet avatar
Beach Fanatic
#36
My card (which was stolen locally) did not have an RFID chip.

Yes, I have heard that. I think there is more than one scam happening. Was it a MasterCard? I know someone who got a call from Master Card about a suspicious transaction that was actually okay, but MC told him some of their data had been compromised and they sent him a new card.
What I am curious about Air Rocker, is how you know where it was stolen??
AirRocker avatar
Beach Lover
#37
Yes, I have heard that. I think there is more than one scam happening. Was it a MasterCard? I know someone who got a call from Master Card about a suspicious transaction that was actually okay, but MC told him some of their data had been compromised and they sent him a new card.
What I am curious about Air Rocker, is how you know where it was stolen??

Yes, it was a MC Check Card.

I don't know where it was stolen... I just meant that it was caught up in the same scam that other locals are dealing with. They did attempt to use the stolen numbers locally though (at the Winn Dixie in Miramar Beach).
NotDeadYet avatar
Beach Fanatic
#38
Thanks.
I may become one of those people who slows down the whole line writing a check. :cool:
Akarin avatar
Beach Lover
#39
Thanks.
I may become one of those people who slows down the whole line writing a check. :cool:

Yeah that's the RFID digital pick pocketing.

They say that even though criminals get the card, expiration, and printed CVV number, it is supposed to be too difficult to clone because a) there is a transaction related cyptogram that is not stored on the card and b) there is a dynamic CVV number (different than the one on the card) generated and stored at the bank created after each transaction so that number always rotates. "A cloned card cannot be made" is what the "experts" (the people that sold the technology to the banks) say. :scratch:

Like anything that involves money and criminals, someone will figure a way around that eventually. I'm with you on writing checks!
Zebraspots avatar
Beach Fanatic
#40
Check writing tells them your bank account number and bank and they can use that info to make purchases too. Also tells them your address, zip code, and (if you are dumb enough to print it on there) your driver's license number.

Cash is apparently the way to go.
Beach Lover
#41
Happened to 30A EATS!

30A Eats family got caught in the scam at Publix Watercolor! We reported to the WC Sheriff's Office. Please report if it happens to you as it is now a Sate of Fl Fed. Investigation. Most of the charges are located in Central Fl and are several transactions in small amounts!

Susan


The Walton County Sheriff’s Office (WCSO) is asking victims and citizens to meet with investigators to discuss a current scam used to fraudulently obtain personal and financial information from victims.

Multiple citizens contacted the WCSO on March 7 regarding what appeared to be fraudulent charges on their debit and credit card accounts. These fraudulent charges are not isolated to a single banking institution, and many of the charges occurred at retail stores throughout the state during the first weekend of March.

The WCSO is asking the public to review their recent financial statements for any questionable charges and fees.

The WCSO is hosting a Scam Alert meeting to gather information from citizens affected by this potential scam to identify suspects and their methods for defrauding individuals.

Scam Alert Meeting Information:
What:
Scam Alert Meeting
When:
Friday, March 9 at 10 a.m.

Where:
WCSO South Walton Substation
133 Sheriff Drive
Santa Rosa Beach, Fla.

If you observe abnormalities in your financial records and believe you are affected by this possible scam, you are encouraged to bring financial transaction records from the first weekend of March to the Scam Alert meeting.

Formal complaints will be accepted during this meeting.

1 850.892.8186
Beach Runner avatar
beats on hood
#42
Here's what I'm doing, as advised by our Director of IT and Security. This is happening in GA as well.

I think the best balance between risk protection and convenience is to use pre-paid debit cards. This obviously removes the “credit” part, but allows the cardholder access to a limited amount of funds in case it is compromised/lost/stolen. Withdraw cash from the bank (avoiding the ATM) and purchase a pre-paid card with that cash and you should be covered end-to-end.
Beach Comber
#43
We had several guests over the past two weeks or so, who couldn't use the credit card they used to reserve a room at Hibiscus, to pay the balance.
Mainly stating fraud to their cards, and having to get everything replaced..
SO SAD!
Alicia Leonard avatar
SoWal Insider
#44
March 28, 2012

The Walton County Sheriff’s Office (WCSO) has an update on the rash of credit card fraud cases that inundated South Walton. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement, the Secret Service, and retail stores are working closely with the WCSO in tracking down the suspects.

According to lead investigator Billy Dozier, there have been 70 cases of credit card fraud that have been filed with the sheriff’s office. Many details of the investigation are not being made known to the public at this time, as this may jeopardize the numerous investigations that are being looked into. However, Inv. Dozier said that it appears that no scanning devices were used in these crimes, but rather a breach into the computer system at the store that was targeted. It appears that the breach is no longer active. Given that these crimes were multi-jurisdictional along with the number of cases, Inv. Dozier said it will take some time to solve the crimes.

The WCSO would like to remind those individuals who were affected by these crimes to please continue working with investigators, even if you have been compensated by your financial institution. Investigators will need the following documents: transaction records, the amount of compensation paid by the bank, and the full credit card number of the card that was compromised (which should no longer be active).

Inv. Dozier warns Walton County citizens and visitors to carefully guard their card information and be diligent to watch for suspicious activity on their credit card statements while using their cards and accounts.

To report further documentation on these cases, please contact Inv. Billy Dozier at 850-892-8186.
SoWal 30A avatar
Beach Comber
#45
Skimmers…?!?!

Sorry if the info has already been posted I didn't have time to read all of them.

Check ATM's for skimmers by shaking the card slot. This will help identify externally attached skimmers. And then be sure to cover the key pad with your hand as you type in your password because skimmers usually have a hidden camera nearby to watch your pin.

Second: keep your eye on your credit card while it is in the cashiers hands. It should never have to leave your site because it only takes one second to swipe your card through a portable recorder that can wirelessly transmit to a third party who can then transmit the card info to another ring member for manual punching or card cloning.

Always shake the card slots before you put cards in!!! But sometimes they have a chance to install them internally but this increases their chances of being caught. So they are usually external.…something they can remove after watching it for an hour and then move on to another location to avoid quick detection.

Good luck.

Nick
Dawn avatar
Beach Fanatic
#47
Seventy credit card fraud cases in South Walton County have been linked to a computer security breach at one store, according to the Walton County Sheriff's Office.


According to WCSO Investigator Billy Dozier, 70 cases of fraud have been reported to his office. Investigators have tied all the complaints to a security breach of a computer system at one retailer.

Investigators wouldn't identify the name of the retailer, saying this could jeopardize their investigation. Because many of the customers at this retailer are located in numerous jurisdictions outside Walton County, the investigation will take time, according to Dozier.


Besides the Walton County Sheriff's Office, the rash of credit card thefts is being investigated by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement and the Secret Service. Dozier indicated the retailer is also cooperating
The WCSO asked victims of ht ecrime to continue to cooperate with investigators, even if their financial institution had compensated them for their loss.


Dozier also warned Walton County residents to guard their credit card information and diligently check their statements for suspicious charges. Any further instances of fraud can be reported to Dozier at 850-892-8186.
Beach Runner avatar
beats on hood
#48
Lots of scams are due to people knowing your Social Security number. Apparently one can't be forced to reveal his/her SSN unless it is for official Social Security business. So when asked for a SSN at a doctor's office, for example, I refuse to give my SSN. If they insist, I give the last four digits. So far, everyone has cooperated.

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